Dvorak Uncensored Exclusive!
It used to be companies discriminated against gays. But not these days. Now it discrimination against straights. I just came from a Thanksgiving leftovers dinner and found out something amazing. HP will pay for the health care of same sex domestic partners but at the end of this year will discontinue medical coverage for the families of heterosexual domestic partners.
This couple has been together for over 25 years. He has worked at HP for over 10 years. They own a home together and have 2 children. Yet they are losing their medical coverage. But same sex domestic partners still get their coverage. So – where’s the ACLU on this one?
How much you want to bet a lawyer will be all over this within a week? At least I’m hoping that’s the case.
Good! If we can’t get married and the only way for us to get any sort of family medical coverage is a domestic partnership then every hetero couple should have to get married to get the same. You’ve denied us marriage so you can’t now claim domestic partnership. Get married if it is so traditional. In fact their 2 dysfuctional kids should be repossessed since they can’t possibly have a proper stable relationship without being married. They also shouldn’t be able to buy a home since we are trying to build an ownership society and a hetero couple who isn’t married is contributing to the downfall of christian moral values and should move out of out GOD fearing country.
Bring back the common law marriage.
#2 suckit:
“Good!”
The company was doing good before this by treating everyone fairly, straight and gay. Now they’re not, and you think this is a good thing?
You’re a vengeful person – equal treatment means it applies equally. When you think it’s good to treat gays better than straights, you’re no different than the people who want to discriminate against gays.
Grow up.
NO..
It cant be this bad..
I guess that you’ve never dealt with Disney before…
Has this been verified with HP? One person claiming they’re losing their health benefits while their gay friends are keeping theirs isn’t really a reliable source.
Does this mean that HP employees may have to become fudgepackers and carpet munchers to keep their benefits?
#9
Here’s you 2 cents,
+10 for thoughtfulness.
+ back button limbo.
Honestly, I’m more surprised that HP ever offered benefits to non-married heterosexual partners of employees. When I worked at Xerox in the 90s, they were very explicit about partner benefits only covering homosexual partners. When I asked why, they said it was because I was allowed to get married and gay people were not, therefore my SO would only be covered after we were married.
Until the day that every state offers civil unions to gays, I’d say that the way that HP is doing things is very fair.
The “workaround” HP is using is attempting to address a fairness problem not really within their control.
Does HP cover the FAMILIES of same sex domestic partners? Just asking…
People that work at HP already munch the filthiest of carpets, they just have no dignity. I’m sure that none of them are above a bit of fudge packing to get a few more measly bucks.
Maybe they should get married.
Why not have a plan for the employee and then charge X amount of dollars for everyone they want to add and be done with it. Marriage is just a way of legalizing “ownership” of someone else and their property.:-)
This happened at my undegrad. It had a same sex/domestic partner clause which allowed your same sex partner to use the gym facilities at the same price you paid.
I was a student so it was free for me.
I read through the language and technically even a mere same sex roommate would have met the definition. So technically my roommate should have been able to access the rec center for free.
But they would not let him and claimed he’d have to pay about 80 bucks per month. I asked all the way up the chain exactly where the rules required him to pay, and no one could point it out to me. Yet, they would not budge.
#8, Alex,
Has this been verified with HP?
I don’t see any link to an article. How factual is this post AND how damaging could it be to HP if it is just another piece of employee anger.
At the same time I notice the number of people that don’t care how true it is, they will rant their bullshit. For a good example, see #6.
#21 All I read is HP drops coverage for the FAMILIES of heterosexual domestic partners.
As far as I’m concerned, FAMILIES are just not covered for domestic partners. If so, big whoop.
This is Dvorak.org playing to the lower forms of intelligence in here. Nothing wrong with that!
The author is mistaken. I just came from Thanksgiving dinner and there were no announcements from HP!
But they are still covering the FAMILIES of same sex domestic partners.
No link = no story. And nothing discoverable using The Google. However I DID find a story from the Peter and Paul Ministry web page that lists HP as one of the “companies and organizations support and promote the perversity of homosexuality by providing same sex domestic partner benefits. These business and groups have a depraved view of sexuality and have join forces with the satanic.“.
http://www.geocities.com/peterpaulmin/GayCompanies.html
However, even if it WERE true, suckit has an interesting point.
#24 – Perkel
>>But they are still covering the FAMILIES of
>>same sex domestic partners.
That’s because opposite sex domestic partners have the option to get married (assuming they don’t want to get a job, or get their own insurance to cover themselves or their kids).
Same sex domestic partners do no. This is what “the people” want, they’re going to have to take the bitter with the sweet.
Hardly an exclusive.
Recent HP “alumnus” Clayton Cramer had this on his blog several days ago.
#27 – RSweeney
>>Hardly an exclusive. Recent HP “alumnus”
>>Clayton Cramer had this on his blog several
>>days ago.
Big woop. Who reads that right-wing neocon blather? If somebody wants to read that kind of reactionary shit, they go to the blog of a hot slut like Michelle Malkin. (Or, if a closet homo, they listen to Anal Cyst Limbaugh).
Getting your health insurance from your employer was one of the innovations that got us where we are today. Its pretty hard to get people to think rationally about that under the best of conditions. Add in the “gay” issue and 98% of the readers are thinking only about butt sex.
Great for ratings though.
#29 – Mr. One
I know that when the discussion was limited to traditional families receiving health insurance, I, for one, was thinking about pussy sex. And of course, the occasional foray into butt sex, oral sex, hand jobs, dry humping, etc.
There’s nothing that brings sex to the fore quite like a conversation about health insurance coverage.
Of course, UNIVERSAL NATIONAL HEALTH CARE would make the arguments moot !!! It has to happen, cause all the Corps want OFF THE HEALTH CARE TREADMILL !!! It is only a matter of time !!!
#8 Yes, it is a fact, much resented by HP employees. I know of several examples of couples that are having to get married…even though they would rather not in order to keep their benefits.
#33 – athon
>>I know of several examples of couples that
>>are having to get married…even though they
>>would rather not in order to keep their
>>benefits.
Well, fuck ’em. Don’t they know that marriage is the cornerstone of American society, a privilege to be afforded only to heterosexual men and women, and not to be sullied by those dirty homos?
In the alternative, the other person could get a job with bennies, like so many other couples do.
If they’re not interested in either of those options, perhaps they could work for universal civil rights in the US, so that the homos could get married. I suppose that’s why HP implemented the policy in the first place, because same-sex marriages are prohibited by law, and there’s NO WAY, other than by granting benefits to domestic partners, that the families could get health insurance.
#34 Mister Mustard
Your rant doesn’t make sense. #33 – athon is talking about heterosexual men and women who previously could get health care benefits and now can’t without getting married. Same sex domestic partners still have this right in HP.
#33 athon
What benefits do they lose by getting married? The only one I can think of is a federal tax break if they both work.