Politics is not for the faint of heart, especially in the final days of a tight race. Still, amid all the attack ads on the airwaves competing to out-ugly one another, we think we’ve found a winner.
Sen. Elizabeth Dole, a Republican of North Carolina is trying to hold onto her seat in an extremely close race, and to that end, she is attacking the religious faith of her opponent, Kay Hagan. Listen to the ad…
Yeah, you heard that right: “There is no God.” The only problem is Kay Hagan never said it. Never. Just a picture of her face over someone else’s audio. Kay Hagan is a member of the Presbyterian Church. She is a former Sunday school teacher.
The fundraiser the ad mentions was not hosted by the Godless American Political Action Committee. A member was one of 40 different co-hosts.
The information in this ad is so ridiculously misleading, and yet, Dole is standing by it and continuing to raise questions about Hagan’s so-called “godlessness” on the campaign trail. Is this really what it comes down to?
Yes, I think we might qualify as a 21st Century nation if silliness like this didn’t count. Do you know any voters who would be affected by tripe like this?
Well, I’m voting for Hagen!
well, when you name your organization “godless americans” you are straight-up of inviting this type of attack, in fact, you are begging for it.
religious people take their faith seriously and it is and will forever be unwise politically, not to mention extremely rude, to belittle that.
“Voters who might be affected?” Probably, most of them. Unfortunately.
Dole knows her audience.
#1 – RTFA.
I didn’t read the comments from the Editor just viewed the ad.
Here is what I came away with. Some group called Godless Americans is backing some politician and gave her a fund raising party that she attended.
Correct?
I really don’t understand why ads like this don’t result in lawsuits. Couldn’t this fall under slander?
North Carolinian here (also atheist, but I never heard of the Godless Armenians). Right now, Ms. Dole don’t have a poot’s chance in a windstorm, so this is the bottom of the barrel stuff that’s coming out.
I’m for separation of church and state, and so are a large portion of my christian friends. Then again, this is the state that fostered Jesse Helms for a very long time, and yeah, there’s people here that will be scared to death that Ms. Hagan “hates god”, but they wouldn’t be voting for her anyway, so… non-issue. Dirty politics just doesn’t work as well as it used to.
..and that’s a GOOD thing!
Actually, it’s an accurate statement. The commercial never said Kay Hagan said it. I’ve seen far worse from both sides.
#8 So, if nothing false is being said, how is it “sleazy”?
There is no god.. get over it.
“Is this really what it comes down to?”
Yes. God, guns and gays. For the people at home this ad was aimed, that’s the entire political universe.
Is God registered to vote in North Carolina?
I thought he was already running as the Democratic candidate for President?
Desperate REPUKES WILL ***TELL ANY LIE*** TO GET ELECTED, and then tell you how “God-fearing” they are !!! REPUKES ARE JUST ***LYING SACKS OF SH*T*** !!!
#12…No, no, no. That’s Jesus, God’s son. Get with the program!
Based on Dole’s ad I would vote for Hagan.
Americans are endlessly entertaining
So, Eideard here’s what we’ve established, with your help:
1) The ad contained no lies.
2) Dems consider ads without lies as sleazy.
3) Ergo, Dems consider ads with lies not sleazy.
Eideard, would you care to comment, point by point?
Waiting…
#17 PaddyHo – The ad is blatantly misleading. Just this side of legal. Typical of a desperate last ditch effort. Using O’Raily in the video is really stretching plausibility.
#17 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker.
“1) The ad contained no lies.”
Your house of cards is about to crumble. The fundraiser in question was not held by the leader of the “Godless American Political Action Committee.” So, that is a lie!
Number 2 and number 3 in your list are hence, incorrect
#19 Thank you J. The 1st answer to my original question answer.
The fundraiser was not hosted by the Godless American Political Action Committee. A member of Godless was co-host.
#17
#3 isn’t necessarily true, dems can consider all ads to be sleazy, not just ones that are true.
“Do you know any voters who would be affected by tripe like this?”
Yes…everyone who’s voting for Obama.
# 20 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker
“Thank you J. The 1st answer to my original question answer.”
No. Your first question was this one.
“Some group called Godless Americans is backing some politician and gave her a fund raising party that she attended. Correct?”
One person doesn’t not make a group. And “they” did not “give her” a fund raising party. One person, who happens to be a member, was in attendance and was one of the 40 co-hosts.
THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU QUESTION ASKS!!
What about all the Racist hate mongers that support John McCain? You didn’t seem to have a problem with them.
#23 J said, “What about all the Racist hate mongers that support John McCain? You didn’t seem to have a problem with them.”
I actually do, but since Obama has racist hate mongers supporting him it is a wash as far as a differentiating factor.
Actually…
My cousin works in TV news, When you show an image of someone you need to be really careful what is said, as anything you say is automatically interpreted as coming from the person who’s image is on the screen. In TV news this would be litigated and won in 5 minutes.
# 24 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker.
So, hate justifies hate?
#25 J – “So, hate justifies hate?”
Not that I know of, why do you ask?
I’m so fed up with all of this gibberish. Quit arguing about whether I exist or not and focus on leaving the world a better place than you found it.
# 26 Paddy the Ignorant Shit Talker
Because, you just did a whole lot of justifying in post #24.
Not once did you decry the racist behavior being exhibited from the McCain crowds.
Paddy-O,
I looked this up and found it for you in your troubled times;)
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