Then there’s North Carolina. And the Finns. Next Wednesday should be an exciting news day what with the wrong candidate winning and all. If you can’t win fairly…
This is just getting worse and worse. Now it’s happening in Texas. (And in MO, if you read to the end of the article). And the vaunted “thousands of attorneys” from the Obama campaign and the DNC are still nowhere to be found.
With every incident so far reported of touch-screen vote-flipping during early voting in this year’s general election — from county to county in WV and in Nashville, TN) — it’s been the ES&S iVotronic touch-screen machine that has failed, flipping votes from one candidate to another not chosen by the voter. In every instance [see update below], it’s been an attempted Democratic vote, flipped to a Republican, or another party.
These are the same machines that lost 18,000 votes in Democratic-leaning Sarasota County in the 2006 U.S. House Race for Katherine Harris’ old seat. The Democrat, Christine Jennings, was declared the loser to Republican Vern Buchanan (whose own wife had trouble voting for him that day), by just 369 votes. Several academic studies, and even the GAO, have been unable to rule out either tampering or hardware/software error for the disappeared 18,000 votes.
As we wrote earlier this week, after there was finally one report of a vote flipping from Democratic to Republican in TN (a very rare instance, btw), these machines need to be taken out of service now, impounded and quarantined immediately, and every voter needs to be given a paper ballot where these machines are currently being used. Voters who have such problems need to inform other voters waiting in line which machine should not be used (and we offer other tips below, as well).
[Update: The rare vote-flip from Republican to Democratic now seems to have been a hoax carried out by local Republicans, according to a TN election integrity activist who did some digging and reporting. Details here…]
And then there’s North Carolina.
Here’s what to do if it happens to you.
I believed this until I read:
“whose own wife had trouble voting for him that day”
Then I realized a 15 year old wrote it when I read:
“a very rare instance, btw”
Why do you spread this garbage?
Democrats are in aperfect position. If Obama wins, they can spin it as a mandate from “the people”. If they lose, they can cry voter fraud and make life a living hell for anyone that disagrees with them. Damn, they’re thought of everything. Is with Republican leaders were as far-sighted as the Democratic leaders.
wow, sorry about the grammer. i haven’t had my coffee yet…
If one gets a paper receipt to buy a 50 cents USA Today newspaper, voters should at least get the option of obtaining one for casting their vote.
I can see the calibration issues. You have cheap ass touch screen machines built by a GOP leaning company and “calibrated” by old, blind and senile volunteers. What can go wrong?
He didn’t test McCains vote before he “calibrated”.
This doesn’t prove anything.
The situation is obvious, gentlemen. People like us need to get off our lazy asses and start working at the polls. They need tech-literate staffers at all these locations. Calibrating these things is probably just like calibrating out PDAs, and we’ve all done it and could do it every half-hour on all the machines in a polling location. Simple for us, not possible when the generation running them were born before television.
Oh that’s OK then. A vote for Obama doesn’t go to McCain. It goes to Chuck Baldwin instead. Whew! Or was it Ralph Nader? Or maybe, what’s that religious fruitloop? Huckabee? Well that’s just fine. Just recalibrate the finglezingit, adjust the periwhosit and align the two throzzlenuggets. Then your vote will go to whoever the technician wants.
Y’know yanks, here in Australia we vote with pencil and paper. Two independent electoral officials count each vote. We have the full count sorted out generally by later that evening.
Sometimes the retardedly simple solution is the best solution. After all, isn’t that why Palin is a candidate?
#4 “If one gets a paper receipt to buy a 50 cents USA Today newspaper, voters should at least get the option of obtaining one for casting their vote.”
If you walk out of the polling place with a piece of paper that proves you voted for a specific candidate it will really help the vote buying market.
I believe in the video the man says the machines are out of calibration.
“In every instance [see update below], it’s been an attempted Democratic vote, flipped to a Republican, OR ANOTHER PARTY.”
Hmmm, no mention of the tens of thousands of fraudulent voter actions done by the dishonorable community organizers at ACORN?
Biased?
Check
I guess it’s similar to the Dems “importing” voters into Ohio from other states.
Well, the court are going to be busy after the 4th…
Such outrage from Democrats. It seems that flipping votes to R is only fair given ACORN and their efforts in stuffing the ballot box with D.
But then the efforts of ACORN is just politics and OK in democrat eyes.
#15 dumbass – So it’s ok if everyone does it?
I live in Missouri and Missouri is seen as a toss up in this election. I will be taking my handy dandy flip cam to my polling place and I will post any shenanigans to youtube. I doubt there will be any problems at my polling place … they use paper.
#16 dumbass
You’re not upset that there is voter fraud, but that the Republicans found a way to cheat better than the Democrats.
The Democrats corrupted the voting system by not requiring ID when voting. By allowing illegal aliens, felons and the dead to vote.
I guess the lesson here is what goes around comes around.
What pathetic right-wing wackos we have here. There has NEVER been ANY evidence of voter fraud of the ACORN type (i.e. people voting who weren’t supposed to) in the past few decades. In fact, part of the reason why BushCo fired those Attorneys General in that scandal last year is that they refused to pursue OBVIOUSLY BOGUS voter fraud complaints.
On the other hand, there’s been PLENTY of controversy around electronic voting machines, how easily they’re hacked, votes flipping, etc., etc.
But you wackos are so smart… show us the money. Show us documented evidence of voter fraud, ANYWHERE in the U.S. Otherwise, how about a nice big glass of shut the hell up?
#19 “There has NEVER been ANY evidence of voter fraud of the ACORN type (i.e. people voting who weren’t supposed to)”
Read much. Do you have ANY idea why the Dems fought to NOT have to verify the eligibility of received absentee ballots? Because, all ya got to do is register lots of “voters”, wait for the ballots and fill them out and send them in. Bingo, bogus votes, that once taken out of the envelope can NEVER be traced.
Some people on thread need to see the Wizard.
Hey Paddy O’Furniture: Documented evidence? Remember that concept? Maybe not, depends on how long you’ve been a right-wing wacko.
And absentee voter fraud can work BOTH ways, smart guy.
#20 – O’Pinocchio
Anyone who does a lot of reading knows that this whole ACORN thing is a tempest in a teapot. There is no evidence from any reliable (e.g., not Anal Cyst Limbaugh, not Two-Dollar Whore Coulter) source that ACORN has been involved in any election fraud.
The evidence for Repug involvement is overwhelming.
Try googling “florida election fraud” and reviewing some of the 298,000 hits. They’re all Repug shenannigans.
Since the Dems represent the people (to the extent that either of the two parties “represents” the people), all they have to do is get out the vote, and they win. And yes, the poor, the handicapped (or whatever they’re called these days), etc. are still considered “people”. Unless you’re an elitest with a $150,000 (or $300,000) outfit for the evening.
#21 – Fido
>>Hey Paddy O’Furniture: Documented evidence?
>>Remember that concept?
I think the fact that O’Pinocchio can’t provide any evidence says all we need to know.
There isn’t any documented evidence, but he thinks if he says it over and over again, it will somehow become true.
That’s O’Pinocchio for ya.
I always love putting some facts into a post. It brings the wackos out of the shadows real quick.
BTW, Google is your friend.
Wow. The ability of the right-wing to deny obvious and proven reality is stunning. Here we have a machine that demonstrably *will not* select Obama — but it will select McCain — and of course the right-wing response is that it doesn’t matter.
They change the subject to ACORN, and falsely claim that they have been involved with voter fraud.
Do conservatives know the difference between a *registration* to vote and an actual *vote*? Apparently not.
Like all canvasing groups, Acorn collected lots of bogus registration attempts — many more than normal, in fact. But those bogus registrations *cannot* translate into bogus votes.
Even if you successfully register as Mickey Mouse, you will not have a corresponding ID and you will not be allowed to vote.
On the other hand, we have machines that are *demonstrably* going to take votes away from Obama
And we have Republican voter-suppression measures that have already disenfranchised thousands of eligible voters.
Do conservatives make any distinctions between reality and fantasy?
Paddy…did you miss the point? Where’s the documented evidence? Are there court cases?
Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/6y7h2s
This is a local story, and the moran isn’t Dem or Repub, just an asswipe.
#25 Wretched Gnu
So your point is that it is alright for the Democrats to commit voter fraud but it is unacceptable for Republicans.
That’s a bit hypocritical isn’t it?
This isn’t proop of vote fraud. This is proof of voter intimidation. This isn’t how you would use these machines to steal votes, that part occurs out of sight.
This purpose of this is to send a strong message to people who would try to vote for Obama that the vote is rigged and don’t bother voting. That way when the real election stealing software comes into play, people have plausable deniability and blame their fellow citizens for not verifying their votes.
Also, not a single repuclican here noted that even after he “fixed” the machine it was still recording votes incorrectly.
#29 “Also, not a single repuclican here noted that even after he “fixed” the machine it was still recording votes incorrectly.”
And, not a single Dem here has noted they are the party that screamed for electronic voting after Dems in Florida proved less capable than 7 year olds in using a punch ballot…
#30,
Still bitter about playing your election stealing wild card on the worst president in US history I see. Oh well can’t win em all. I guess there was an equal probability that people could have interpreted Bush the same way they interpreted Reagan. Oh well, too bad it didn’t work out this time. Enjoy the intercine warfare over the next two years;)
My suggestion is avoid media starting on about Friday, and ending… Oh sometime in 2015 or there abouts. Maybe you could take up pot smoking or… vicodin as a hobby?
#27 contemptuous one – You dis my argument from post #16 then use the same argument in post #27.
Typical wingnut B.S.
Try thinking for yourself once.
Oh, and get the hell off my lawn!
#32 Monster’s Lawyer
Having a bad day? OK, I’m back on the sidewalk.
It’s bad that anyone commits voter fraud. I just find it entertaining when Democrats defend their chosen method of fraud then cry foul if they perceive Republicans doing the same.
#30, Cow-Paddy Ignorant Shit Talker,
And, not a single Dem here has noted they are the party that screamed for electronic voting after Dems in Florida proved less capable than 7 year olds in using a punch ballot…
Geeze, brush your teeth will ya. You’re so full of shit on this (and most posts) your breath stinks.
Going electronic is NOT another option for the Republicans to steal votes.
Now, I asked you before when you made the claim and you failed then too. Just find us some case where ACORN was convicted of voter fraud. NOT registration fraud, which ACORN pointed out to the registrars.
I know, you are going to come back with something like “google it yourself”. Eff you asswipe !!! You made the accusation, you back it up!!!
Illiterate homophobic racist.