Biden predicts international crisis if elected – McCain reacts | csmonitor.com — This crazy gaffe was apparently buried by the media until all the right-wing talk shows began to hound them about it. Now it seems as if Biden will be off the tour until further notice.
“Mark my words: It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy,” Biden told the crowd. “The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Watch, we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“He’s going to have to make some really tough – I don’t know what the decision’s going to be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s going to happen,” he said…
“What is more troubling is that Senator Biden told their campaign donors that when that crisis hits, they would have to stand with them because it wouldn’t be apparent that Senator Obama would have the right response,” McCain [said].
Why is the media quoting McCain quoting Biden when they heard it themselves?
John: I know you’re not stupid. Did you actually listen to the entire speech? If so, you would know this is not an issue worthy of this blog. Sheesh! Grow a pair, man!
61,
He did, and NOw thay hang between his knees…
OW, OW, OUCH, OW…
NO RUNNING..
#35 that’s not what Biden said. He thinks there’ll be a crisis that wouldn’t happen if McCain were president.
#63 – Where is the part where he says that this will not happen if McCain is elected
“And here’s the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he’s gonna have to make some really tough – I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you, not financially to help him, we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right. Because all these decisions, all these decisions, once they’re made if they work, then they weren’t viewed as a crisis. If they don’t work, it’s viewed as you didn’t make the right decision, a little bit like how we hesitated so long dealing with Bosnia and dealing with Kosovo, and consequently 200,000 people lost their lives that maybe didn’t have to lose lives. It’s how we made a mistake in Iraq. We made a mistake in Somalia. So there’s gonna be some tough decisions. They may emanate from the Middle East. They may emanate from the sub-continent. They may emanate from Russia’s newly-emboldened position because they’re floating in a sea of oil.”
The full transcript is not hard to find. Read what he said, not what other people said he said.
The Republican VP would say the same eg “Our new president will be tested and McCain will pass the test…”
#64 Thanks for the text.
Sounds like a smoke-filled room conversation in the Senator’s Lounge, trying to persuade his fellow Senators. I have always liked Biden because of his so-called gaffes and as you know with a politician, a gaffe is when they tell the truth.
political conservatives bore me.
the party that most represents your ideas has sold you out, but you still cling to tired promises of fiscal responsibility and personal responsibility even though every single great conservative politician has relied on such great phrases as “i don’t recall” and deflecting blame of any kind on the media or on subordinates.
face it, conservatism has no champions worth a spit. it’s nothing but a collection of tired cliche’s and withering dreams of the 1950’s.
oh yeah, did i mention that nixon, reagan, bush, and bush all ran deficits that defy imagination.
none has turned over roe v. wade
none has killed social security or welfare or medicare.
none has reversed affirmative action.
none has truly quelled russia.
none has kept china in check.
none has given israel peace.
none has kept nukes out of north korea’s hands
none has truly subdued iran.
none has demonstrated that peace through strength actually works (nixon actually, finally pulled the plug on vietnam)
none has delivered anything they promised.
yet you still answer the bugle call, every time, every time expecting a different outcome.
and even if the liberals are to blame, you’re still admitting that your conservative godheads are too weak to overpower them.
in short, you fail.
What is the difference between Sarah Palin’s mouth and her vagina?
Only one retarded thing came out of her vagina.
/me grabs a bag of popcorn..
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other thought:
i wonder who’s gonna pop the october surprise
this year..? (and wonder just how loud will the roar of voter fraud this cycle will get.
-that is ofc, if the MSM decides it’s important.. seems any reports get
back-burnered and buried way too fast. -very sad state of affairs this year..
other thought #2
-i’m gonna take the long shot and say the IMF and central banks are going to do a full dress rehearsal re-enactment on Oct 28/29 of the 1929 crash with JP Morgan once again taking the lead role.. -or will they wait till March..?
*shrug*
-s
#65 – “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you, not financially to help him, …”
Good, then I guess he can drop his tax increase since he doesn’t need the financial help.
Scary stuff. Sad thing is a nuclear attack on America is less scary than the next 4 years.
Can anyone imagine six months from now. President McCain is undergoing another hemorrhoid surgery and is on a ventilator. The acting President is called upon to react to some Russian terrorists that have taken over the American embassy in Minsk. They want freedom for White Russia. It is 3:01 AM.
The order would be given: Sail a couple of Aircraft Carriers right up to their shoreline and let them know in no uncertain terms that this is war !!!
Yaa, that’s the ticket. We would just use a couple of Aircraft Carriers. Just a few miles off the Minsk coastline. Yaa, and if they argue we’ll just nuke their sorry little babushka heads off. Yaa, and if that doesn’t work, we’ll boycott their potatoes and cabbage. Then we can feed their Cossack horses green apples and incapacitate their army.
THEY’LL GREET US AS LIBERATORS !!!
#72, peehead,
#65 Quite a selfish spin. Very good. Now, go back to your boss and ask for your scooby snack. You deserve it after such a well done job.
WTF??? How is using the entire portion of the speech selfish? Geeze, you are an moran.
Is there not some village in Venezuela that would like their idiot back? Quick, go.
#66 “I have always liked Biden because of his so-called gaffes and as you know with a politician, a gaffe is when they tell the truth.”
Funny you said that. Yesterday I was saying Biden is truth prone not, gaffe prone.
#68 too much grog said, “none has truly quelled russia.”
Umm, it WAS the USSR. It disintegrated and can took years before it could afford a military.
Go back to school.
#77, Cow-Paddy,
It disintegrated and can took years before it could afford a military.
The former USSR military was never disbanded. It was apportioned among the various former states but the bulk was retained by Russia. Much of the obsolete equipment fell into disrepair and was scrapped. Much of what is currently in use though is quite lethal and sophisticated.
So dream on bull-poop guy.
Where John goofed is that he call Biden’s statement a “crazy gaffe” and that he said “it seems as if Biden will be off the tour until further notice.”
Biden didn’t say that Obama would be weak. Instead he said Obama “has steel in his spine.”
Biden continued on the campaign trail. It was Rush who apparently changed Biden’s quote (and it was repeated by McCain) and gave false info about Biden.
Passing this comment along:
If Sarah Palin keeps giving speeches like she did yesterday in Reno, Nev., her conservative critics (like Peggy Noonan) will be eating their words by Election Day. Palin quoted Biden’s now-infamous remark that an international crisis will develop within six months of an Obama presidency, seizing on his line that he already knows of “four or five places” where the trouble could get started. After giving four examples of how an Obama administration would worsen certain global conflicts, Palin let loose this zinger, “But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement.” If she keeps this up, the race could end with Team Obama crawling to the finish line.
So Biden expects a test of the kind Kennedy faced after his disastrous meeting with Khrushchev in Vienna in June, 1961, less than five months into Kennedy’s presidency. Biden’s presumably thinking of the Soviet-backed construction of the Berlin Wall a couple of months later. Kennedy did nothing, and was criticized for his weakness back home.
So–leaving aside the merits of what Kennedy did or didn’t do in 1961–Biden is forecasting that Obama will have what seems to be a weak response to a provocation from, say, Iran or Russia, and he’s urging the liberals of Seattle and elsewhere to stand with Obama against the expected domestic criticism.
In other words, Biden is forecasting inaction by Obama in the face of testing by a dictator. I suspect he’s right in this forecast. McCain might want to clarify this point. It’s not just that Obama’s own running mate expects an international crisis early in his presidency. t’s not just that Obama has a weak foreign policy record. It’s that Biden himself expects what will appear to be a weak response from Obama to testing by a dictator.
THE HEADLINE IS MISLEADING! Biden did not say that the occurrance of an international crisis was contingent upon Obama being elected; he said that an international crisis was going to occur, that it would occur after the election (of Obama, of course), and hinted that it would be inevitable and deliberate. Presumeably, even if McCain wins, the international crisis will still occur — it cannot be stopped by anyone, and it will test whoever wins, i.e. Obama. The headline suggests that Obama will cause an international crisis — not true!
#68 i’ll concede that point you, though it’s really pedantic and misses that putin is soviet era kgb, but i’ll concede you the point.
i suppose you’re conceding the rest since you had nothing else to say.
i’m having a great time today, thank you.
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No matter who wins, they’ll be tested internationally.
#6. The reason the rest of the world likes Obama(FYI most like McCain too) isn’t because they think he’s weak. It’s because they think he(and McCain) are more diplomatic, and not hard-headed and short-sighted like Bush declaring countries the Axis of Evil, and using fear mongering like some loon.
Again, whomever takes the white house will be tested. Not because of THEIR character, but because of the character whose currently in the Oval Office and the choices he made. Putin moved bombers and carriers to Venezuela because of what Bush has done… not because of Obama or McCain.
#81. Sarah Palin isn’t going to change anything with those sorts of comments that are merely the pot calling the kettle black.
#86 “Putin moved bombers and carriers to Venezuela because of what Bush has done… not because of Obama or McCain. ”
There’s no Russian carrier (they only have one) in the Caribbean.
Kennedy was “tested” by the USSR as he was young. USSR wouldn’t have dared to pull the same crap with Ike. For obvious reasons.
Obama will be viewed as someone without any exec or leadership experience. Also, by survey ~70% of enlisted & officers in the Armed forces don’t want Obama to be CiC.
That fact alone will make some want to try and push him around.
#87–Paddy==last week you corrected me that Herbert Hoover was not an unqualified President. I was thinking he was little more than a civil engineer. This current article comparing Hoover favorably against Bush leads me to think maybe Hoover is getting a raw deal.
http://www.tnr.com/toc/story.html?id=72e638ce-e806-4bce-a7d9-3b9c6ef06802
#88 Notice in that article you referenced the Fed was in the middle of the mess?
That’s what we get for having a banking system out of line with the Founders intentions and better judgment.
# 87 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker
“USSR wouldn’t have dared to pull the same crap with Ike. ”
Oh you mean like the crushing East German workers in 53 Or the repression of the Hungarian uprising in 56 Or the shooting down of a our U2 Spy plane?
A quote from his biography
” In dealing with the Soviets, Eisenhower showed respect for their military might and preferred peaceful negotiation.”
Yeah the USSR was soooo afraid of Ike. He was such a hard ass!!! lol Dipshit!
You really should learn more about history before coming on and making a fool of yourself.
#91 “Oh you mean like the crushing East German workers in 53 Or the repression of the Hungarian uprising in 56 ”
No, I mean like placing nuke missiles in Cuba…
You realize the significance of that action as opposed to screwing around in a zone of control ceded to them by FDR (another idiot).
# 91 Paddy Cake the Ignorant Shit Talker
“No, I mean like placing nuke missiles in Cuba…”
THEY SHOT DOWN ONE OF OUR PLANES YOU JACK ASS. THAT IS A DIRECT ACT OF WAR!!!!!!!
LOL The Cuban missile crisis only happened because Ike let them get the upper hand on their nuclear weapons arsenal. That is know as the “Missle Gap” Under his presidency is where they grew their balls because they thought America was weak under Ike due to his lack of response on those other issues. They figured the new guy would be a puss too. It had nothing to do with Kennedy other than he was new.
Why don’t you do a little reading before you come on and try to act like you know about history.
#9 “LOL The Cuban missile crisis only happened because Ike let them get the upper hand on their nuclear weapons arsenal. That is know as the “Missle Gap””
I didn’t think you were this stupid:
http://www.espionageinfo.com/An-Ba/Aviation-Intelligence-History.html