There are numerous articles out there like this one from the New York Times or this one from FactCheck.org about how the latest ads from McCain lack ‘truthiness.’
These are the tactics of someone backed into a corner who feels hopeless. Do the Republicans feel they’re losing and can’t win on the issues so they have to resort to mischaracterization and lying? With the Internet they can be countered in moments, so why try? Do they think the American public is that stupid and ignorant? Ignoring what Obama (who I’m not claiming is squeaky clean here) may do or say, do we really want a President who has to tell bald faced lies to win?
UPDATE: Watch McCain respond to the women on The View as they ask him why he’s lying.
and most conservatives dont lie under oath as president _Bill Clinton
they dont get bj’s in the ovel office from tier staff Bill again
they dont run gay brothels form their home -Barney Frank
they dont get sub prime loans from country wide
chriss dodd while directing fannie may to buy bad loans
they dont get convicted lobbyists to set up sweet heart deals for thier house -OBama
shall I go on ? both sides are full of slime balls so we can play this dumb finger pointing game all night
“Sorry, I was going by the text of the bill. Did the proposed bill say otherwise?”
I guess my original conclusion is correct based on what was DONE rather than what the candidate SAID.
63,
Can you please make some sense? Just give me one example and exlain why you disagree. Otherwise, you’re just being a stupid dickhead.
64,
Clinton is a sack of shit that has been out of office 8 years. He is not running for president, and has no real pull with Obama, so mentioning him is irrelevant. Say something about Obama, and maybe we can have a discussion.
Palin is very scary
Paddy-O,
That quote was from the full text of the bill, as introduced in the Illinois Senate. Not some early revision. Here is the link if you’re interested:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=0099&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=
You can note that there are revisions made, including one to change the range of HIV education from “grades 6 through 12” to grades “K through 12”.
#68 Thanks. It’s like going into a kitchen at night and flipping on the light. The roaches go scurrying for cover.
Its evident that the editors and readers of this site are 90% liberal. So why don’t you guys just continue to jerk your selfs off on these bullshit one sided topics. Have a nice day.
“Each class or course in comprehensive sex
education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”
There’s a perfectly logical and acceptable way to interpret that passage, Paddy-O. Any sex-ed course that is comprehensive should include instruction on the prevention of STDs. It does not mandate that kindergartners be taught that level of instruction, just that any such comprehensive course in any grade shall also include that preventive information. It’s the type of normal legal language that leaves plenty of flexibility in the hands of school boards.
Gary, that’s spot-on. I helped develop a curriculum for a school in a state with such a state law. Nobody at any level of education believes that HIV will be discussed explicitly at k-5. The current republican argument is a fairy tale, an attempt to divert the discussion from issues.
BTW, POTUS ’08 on XM is great…I just heard Palin say nukyuler. Wonderful. They beat up on everyone, btw.
so they have a section on age appropriate.
Then why didn’t drug use and alcohol get added for kindergarten curriculum? Why was sex singled out to be taught in kindergarten, as has been liberal policy since at least 1993?
You know, when I was about 7 years old, I interpreted the word “liberal” to be someone who cared about the fate of other people. The word “conservative”, to me, described someone who cared only about himself.
It was childish, I know.
The only thing is…
in almost 45 years, I haven’t found any compelling evidence to prove these ideas wrong.
MikeN –
There is actually, I just snipped the original quote for length and to stay on topic. Here’s the rest (page 9, line 32 through page 10, line 7):
“including age appropriate instruction in grades K through 12 on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention,
transmission and spread of HIV AIDS, public and environmental health, consumer health, safety education and disaster survival, mental health and illness, personal health habits, alcohol, drug use, and abuse including the medical and legal ramifications of alcohol, drug, and tobacco use, abuse during pregnancy, sexual abstinence until marriage, tobacco, nutrition, and dental health.”
They left out gun safety. 😉
Same reason the Ds lie, they have lost their ideological compass and are parties wholly concerned with acquisition and retention of power.
Why can’t Sarah Palin go on Meet the Press or any of the ‘heavy’ Sunday morning news centric shows? She and McCain CLAIM she’s more experienced that Obama. And Obama, McCain and Biden have ALL done those shows many many times. If Palin isn’t a joke (like I assume she is), if she is a tough candidate with MORE experience than Obama, then she damn will can go on a ‘real’ news interview show like all the big boys/girls.
If on the other hand she has to hide and wait weeks until Joe Lieberman can ‘teach’ her about foreign and national affairs, then that kind of offsets the idea that she’s ready to be VP.
If McCain, Thompson, Huckabee and ALL of the other Republicans can do these shows, and face down the evil ‘liberal’ media…then I’m sure Palin is tough enough to do it too….right?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/school_funding_misleads.html
Out the same day (or at least yesterday). Why didn’t this one warrant a blog entry? Or headline coverage? Bah, politics.
#79 “If McCain, Thompson, Huckabee and ALL of the other Republicans can do these shows, and face down the evil ‘liberal’ media…then I’m sure Palin is tough enough to do it too….right?”
Well, it obama over a year before he would go on an interview to take on an “evil, conservative” interviewer. What took him so long?
LOL. Yeah, I noticed NONE of the other candidates for President or Vice President have personal ‘coaches’ to teach them about world affairs. Only Palin. LOL What a joke!
#81 – Noticed you didn’t answer the question. Proving my point.
On you point…it’s because O’Reilly isn’t a real news show. I mean it’s entertainment like Rush or Tom Likus (sp?)..or the view. Cute, but he’s not a journalist, just an entertainer.
Dude, Meet the Press and those other Sunday shows are REAL news. Sorry.
The point still stands. Why can McCain, Obama and Biden do ‘real’ news shows, but Palin can’t?
#83 “Noticed you didn’t answer the question. Proving my point.”
Charlie Gibson on ABC isn’t a real news show?
So, answer why obama waited so long before taking an interview with s/o who wouldn’t coddle him and press for answers to real questions?
#84 – Gibson is a start! She’s learning. I hope she can learn fast enough.
#83 – Palin just isn’t up to it (yet) She can’t face down ‘aggressive’ reporters. Which worries me about her facing down ‘aggressive’ foreign leaders. Hillary never avoided those shows. Neither did any of the other Republicans who ran. ONLY Palin is avoiding the media. She’s got to prove she’s in the same league as everyone else and ready for the big time. So far, she hasn’t.
#84 – O’Reilly is a joke show…a fun thing like listening to Rush or Howard Stern, but he’s NOT a news show.
Obama never ‘waited’ to go on Meet The Press (the single MOST respected of the heavy shows). DUDE, EVERYONE goes on Meet the Press, Republicans, Democrats and Independents. McCain has been on that MANY MANY times. So have ALL of the other Republicans. So why is Palin not capable?
Look, I don’t expect McCain to go on “Countdown” either. Like O’Reilly it’s an “op-ed” type show. They’re both very biased. You think Sean Hannity (who isn’t neutral by ANY stretch) isn’t going to coddle Palin?
I’m talking about the general news shows, the ones everyone respects. If Meet the Press was such an evil liberal media source, WHY DID McCain go back a dozen times (more)? Why hasn’t McCain “only” done interviews with O’Reilly? You know why…
#86 “Obama never ‘waited’ to go on Meet The Press (the single MOST respected of the heavy shows).”
So, how long after he announced that he was running did Obama go on Meet the Press?
A bit off topic, but this is a funny vid. You have to watch it to the end. K. Olbermann has a psychotic breakdown. Afterwards he was sedated and put back into his comfy “room”.
http://www.youtube.com/v/I2Rzt_WzrPQ
I’m Bill Clinton, a proud democrat, and this is my personal affadavit that no democrat has ever lied.
What is this about,
Still waiting for your answer…
Even More Repuke LIES:
http://tinyurl.com/3upf2m
Beware Palin’s JACK-BOOTS – She is ready to MARCH ALL OVER YOU !!!
The American public is that stupid. How else can you account for 2 terms for the ignoramus Bush.
The depths of American ignorance may never be measured, and it gets worse when we enter a voting booth.
An interesting FACT: Go check McCain’s website, and under the “Issues” button, he PROMINENTLY FEATURES THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. All well and good, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ***NINE AMENDMENTS*** THAT CONSTITUTE THE BILL OF RIGHTS ??? Not a mention !!! No mention of America’s ESSENTIAL LIBERTIES, THAT DIFFERENTIATE AMERICA FROM ***EVERY OTHER COURNTY IN THE WORLD*** ??? And it is part of the CONSTITUTION THAT THE PRESIDENT ***SWEARS TO UPHOLD, SO HELP ME GOD*** ON INNAUGURATION DAY !!! So John, and Sarah, WHAT ABOUT THE BILL OF RIGHTS ???