By SN
Sunday August 31, 2008
Telegraph – August 13, 2008:
Stuart Shepard of Focus on the Family, one of America’s leading evangelical groups, was shown in a video filmed at Denver’s Invesco Field, where 75,000 are expected to cheer Mr Obama on Aug 28, asking Christians to pray for “torrential” rain.
“I’m talking ‘umbrella-ain’t-going-to-help-you rain,” the former pastor and television meteorologist said.
LA Times – August 31, 2008:
With Hurricane Gustav bearing down on the Gulf Coast, Republicans have canceled all but the bare minimum requirements for Monday’s session of their convention, as GOP presidential candidate John McCain called on delegates to turn their attention to people likely to be displaced.
And the result of said rain? No Bush/Cheney at the convention. God is a Republican, after all.
Just because the Great Black Hope may actually lose is no reason to get pissy.
James — you da man. I don’t care what the editors say about you.
Stolen from SN- see below
“I don’t care what the editors say about you.”
Are you kidding, we love James. He’s our Gene Gene, the Dancing Machine. And we all know how much the Gong Show would have sucked without him!
You do realize that millions of people are in danger of losing their homes and possibly more? Not only is your headline disgusting, it is also ironic considering that you’re mocking republicans while doing the same exact thing. Reign in your crew, Dvorak.
“You do realize that millions of people are in danger of losing their homes and possibly more?”
And isn’t this the exact rain your fellow Christians prayed for? The “umbrella-ain’t-going-to-help-you” type of rain. Or are you merely upset that God sent it to the wrong place? He certainly does act in mysterious ways.
And one more thing, I have no sympathy for anyone who intentionally lives in a flood zone, a hurricane zone, near a fault line, or any place known as “tornado alley.” Considering that New Orleans meets two of those conditions, my lack of sympathy naturally turns to jest.
I’m an evangelical Christian, myself, but I couldn’t help but note the dark irony of Dobson praying for storm on the Dems’ convention and it hitting later during the GOP convention.
I never pray for the weather, myself.
It’s not because I don’t believe that God can change the weather.
I just realized that one person’s welcome rain is another person’s flood.
>> SN said,
>> And one more thing, I have no sympathy for anyone who intentionally lives in a flood zone, a hurricane zone, near a fault line, or any place known as “tornado alley.”
I’ve lived lots of places and EVERY SINGLE ONE was known for some sort of disaster.
However, I get very angry at greedy developers and obliging zoning officials who allow for homes to be stupidly built in river basins, on hillsides or in the middle of tinder-box forests.
“I’ve lived lots of places and EVERY SINGLE ONE was known for some sort of disaster.”
Other than the automotive industry, Michigan is pretty safe. Sure it snows, but that just gives us an excuse to stay home from work. To put it another way, I’ve never heard of an emergency evacuation due to snow.
And my three year stay in Maryland was pretty safe. Other than the public school system.
However, I’ll agree that no place is perfectly safe if you admit that some places are clearly safer than others.
I think that this is hilarious. Come on people! Is god really going to rain out a political speech? I thought he would have better things to do such as starving children or some other such thing. Oh I know!! Christians how about rain to a drought ridden country. Much better than trying to make it rain at a speech. What a bunch of weirdos!!
SN,
In Detroit, you have riots whenever you win in sports, don’t you? 😉
I’m just saying that I don’t blame people for living in broad regions. Do you REALLY think that we should depopulate the entire south and mid-west (tornadoes and hurricanes) and the entire west coast? (earthquakes).
I suppose you would also need to depopulate the Northeast since they have killer winters and summers.
But I do blame government officials who can’t say no to developers who want to build on specific sites that are highly likely to flood, slide or burn.
I also blame the federal government (and especially Republicans) who know how to fix the flooding Mississippi problem but refuse to do it.
I also blame politicians (and especially the conservatives) who deny the obvious truth that global warming is causing this extreme weather.
But blame some poor family for living in Kansas or Oklahoma? No way.
#5 – SN
>>And one more thing, I have no sympathy for
>>anyone who intentionally lives in a flood
>>zone, a hurricane zone, near a fault line, or
>>any place known as “tornado alley.”
Jeez. You’ve just ruled out the west coast, the east coast, and most of the midwest.
Do you really want 300,000,000 people living in Michigan?
“In Detroit, you have riots whenever you win in sports, don’t you? ”
Every sport but hockey. But I don’t live there and I would strongly recommend against anyone moving there.
“Do you REALLY think that we should depopulate the entire south and mid-west (tornadoes and hurricanes) and the entire west coast? (earthquakes).”
No, I’m just saying that if you know it’s both a flood zone (as it sits lower than the surrounding gulf) and it’s a zone prone for hurricanes, you don’t live there.
“But blame some poor family for living in Kansas or Oklahoma? No way.”
Yes, I do blame people for making stupid choices. And lets face it, New Orleans may have some poor people, but it has plenty of rich and highly educated people too. So stop putting this problem on poor people and the government.
“Do you really want 300,000,000 people living in Michigan?”
No, let’s send ’em to Alaska. Seriously, this is solely about making smart choices. Once again, New Orleans sits lower than the Gulf. And it’s prone to hurricanes. Think about it. Do you also feel sympathy for sober adults who play Russian roulette and lose?
#13 – SN
>>Yes, I do blame people for making
>>stupid choices.
You think some Okie born and raised in a shotgun shack has options? What, they move to Beverly Hills?
Same goes for most people who are victims of these force majeur-type disasters that occur all around the country.
The “rich and highly educated people” of New Orleans just hunkered down at some luxury hotel until the levees were rebuilt. It was the poor people who took it up kiester. And they had no choice. No options.
>>Once again, New Orleans sits lower than
>>the Gulf.
And the Netherlands sit lower than the sea. Are they stupid? Lucky? Both? Or do they just have a government that takes precautions to protect their citizens?
I don’t think god had anything to do with it. If you plan a publicity event during hurricane season you should expect that there might be a chance that your news coverage will not go as expected. If there is a hurricane, you may lose some of that precious news coverage because of the disaster that is going to take place.
Oh wait, I guess there won’t be a problem getting coverage of the Republican convention.
#11, I also blame the federal government (and especially Republicans) who know how to fix the flooding Mississippi problem but refuse to do it.
The Mississippi is a major river into which many other rivers flow. Rivers flood. What is there to “fix”? In fact, many of the problems in Louisiana concerning the loss of wetlands and natural buffers to hurricanes have happened exactly because humans have attempted to manipulate that river.
#16–Mustard==the Netherlands has very little land. The USA has much to spare. Your analysis is as relevant as not enough is to more than enough.
I also read Netherlands was considering returning some of its harder to maintain land to the sea in order to concentrate on saving the rest. Don’t know how true that is, sounds dubious.
Course, all it would take is one Cat 3 hitting the English Channel and a new Dark Age could ensue.
#19 – Bobbo
As I said. They just have a government that takes precautions to protect their citizens.
#20–Mustard, no, you said more than that as if it was the responsibility of the government to protect people who choose to build homes below sea level, on the coast, on land that is sinking.
I say the government has been irresponsible in helping in that way. To be responsible, the government should have been saying: “This is now a national bird sanctuary. Live here at your own risk.”
Only bird brains should be living in New Orleans.
#21 – Bobo
>>Only bird brains should be living in New Orleans.
Well, using that logic, only bird brains should be living in California, Florida, much of the east coast, much of the midwest, on an island, near a river that’s prone to flooding, or much of the rest of the USA.
Tsk.
Mustard==you have sunk to the level of the bird brains referenced above. In each area you mention, their are safe and unsafe places==relatively.
I recall the airborne picture of a governmental building that was actually straddling a fault line that could be plainly seen.
I’m saying, when you build in Southern California, build on one side of the fault line or the other, not straddling it.
Likewise–tie down standards for mobile homes in Kansas and fireproof standards for homes on a wooded slope all make sense.
Your attitude of build anything anywhere is indeed for bird brains.
I was also LMAO at the irony about pleading for ‘biblical rain’ to ruin Obama’s speech, and having it turn out that almost exactly three years to the day that Katrina hits, another hurricane hits at almost exactly the same spot, on the exactly day that Bush is supposed to speak to open the Republican convention, in order to propose that the person with which Bush was celebrating a birthday when Katrina hit should become the next president of the USA. The odds of this happening are so infinitesimally low that you almost have to believe that divine intervention is involved.
If this isn’t a message from god that McCain should not become president, I don’t know what other sign god could send, aside from his voice directly rumbling out of the sky.
It’s too bad, I was looking forward to comparing the audience numbers between Obama and McCain speeches, since that will tell us a whole lot about the real outcome to expect from the elections… basically that nobody gives a damn about what McCain has to say, and the vote will follow accordingly.
Before you attack me for not feeling bad for those that are being affected by the hurricane… STFU… I wish them well and I hope that the hurricane fizzles out and does no damage… but I still can’t help but smile at the message that heaven is sending about how god feels about this election.
This storm won’t hurt the Republicans. They are professional politicians who know how to spin anything. This won’t hurt those crazy goat worshipping preachers. People will always send them money since they are really in the entertainment business.
This will hurt 10,000’s of people who were on the verge of making a remarkable comeback in the face of an uncaring bureaucracy and uncomprehending elected officials from both parties.
#25–QB==how is moving back to a house still below sea level a “remarkable comeback?”
How many Federal billions have been spent to rebuild New Orleans back up to a Cat 3 defense aka 25 year flood standard?==How many billion dollars would show compassion?===all to be washed away again 3 years later.
Heroic is to fight against the odds, not stupidly run your head against the wall.
a prediction.
This will all be a non story by Monday afternoon. Why, you ask? Because everyone is so hyper about it being another Katrina that everyone will be or has been evacuated (except the reporters). Not to mention all the lead time in the world to batten(?)/tie everything down.
p.s. other than the “politics of perception” can some one please explain why a convention is being shut down for something that is taking place more than 1,000 miles away???
“God sends hurricane against the GOP!”
I did not!!!
Anyone who moved back to New Orleans must have no brains.
You moved back to a town thats sinking and hurricane proned.
Some people are so Daft.
Should have taken the cash and run !
It looks good on the bibletards with the rain call.
Can I ask,
WHAT the GOP is going to be able to do, that they decide NOT to have most of the first day??
ITS in Michigan, NOT down south..
Even if they are part of the Gov, that is SUPPOSED to respond. What can they do, BEFORE its over??
NOTHING.
2 things I see.
There are ALOT of electoral votes DOWN in that area. And they want THOSE people UP NORTH, insted of worrying about the storm.
3 day week end and FOOTBALL MONDAY.
#27 – #30
Think. A million and a half people displaced and the GOP throws a party. They would never live it down. Can you just imagine the liberal media reporting??? Sheesh. Just think of Eideard’s posts right here!!!!!!