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Environmental Capital – WSJ.com : Fuel for Debate: Pelosi Suggests Natural Gas Isn’t a Fossil Fuel — Can you imagine if Bush said something like this. Even he knows better.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi seemed to suggest in a television interview Sunday that natural gas isn’t a fossil fuel.
From the post on the Journal’s Washington Wire by Journal reporter John D. McKinnon:
On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, the speaker twice seemed to suggest that natural gas – an energy source she favors – is not a fossil fuel.
“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” she said at another.
Rep. Pelosi’s spokesman later said the speaker knows natural gas is a fossil fuel, but likes it because it burns more cleanly than coal and oil.
No wonder she gave up the rudybatrudy boody to Dan Quayle. That’s him right? Natural Gas is the sent of mother nature.
Hell, she had a rack back then too.
Natural gas, while quite often a fossil fuel derivative, is not always. Before natural gas was piped from gas fields, it was usually manufactured from coal, sewage, and decomposing material. I think Pelosi meant to differentiate natural gas from the heavier, liquid and solid fossil fuels.
I’m sure she’s not alone.
“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,”
Hmmm. The only natural gas I’ve purchased was fossil fuel. Well, no wonder the Congress has the lowest ratings in its history… Lower than Bush, thought it wasn’t possible. But, Pelosi worked hard.
The reason our country has been damaged is because of inane articles like this one, in the conservative WSJ. The real issue is that conservatives are intent on lining the pockets of big energy CEOs and damning future generations. We need an energy policy that makes sense instead of one that focuses on making cents for CEOs.
And I think some natural gas forms from non-biological processes, so there.
Mr Fusion, I think you’re giving her too much credit. It was a poorly thought out statement like all politicians make because they spend their life talking.
Oh, for Christ’s sake. I’m sure that Pelosi knows that oil, coal, and natural gas are all “fossil fuels”. You know what she meant, I know what she meant, everybody knows what she meant. As an ALTERNATIVE TO OIL.
I can see how the presidential campaign is going to go here on dvorak dot org slash blog: From the 3295830968407983578608609830986098309350304 statements made by politicians every year, Mr. C. Dvorak is going to cull the “bloopers” from Dems, and post them here with a hearty “HAR”.
If McBush could complete an entire paragraph without bollixing up some key fact (or a multitude of key facts), there might be something to talk about.
He can’t, so there’s not.
BTW, Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House of Representatives. She doesn’t “run” it.
She and her hubby were also early investors in Pickens’ Clean Energy Fuels – last year:
http://tinyurl.com/5z85ll
#7. Mustard- so you think we don’t cull the bloopers from McCain, Really? Are we not Fair and Balanced enough for you?
#9 – Like a “Fox”.
Hypocrites. One guy makes bloopers and he’s a moron but if a democrat makes a blooper everyone else is a moron because they couldn’t read her mind. Amazing.
We need an energy policy that makes sense instead of one that focuses on making cents for CEOs.
I agree. And that policy should be to stop wasting federal money by paying someone to do the research. If the market wants a cheaper alternative, let the market find it.
LOL. McCullough, in my house “Fair” is the “F word”.
I’m not a particular fan of Pelosi, since she didn’t immediately begin impeachment proceedings when she became speaker, but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt here.
Natural gas is undoubtedly a fossil fuel, but in use it is much different than oil or coal. There’s a reason that it is preferred, where available, for home heating and water heaters. It burns clean because it has substantially less carbon in it. And, the USA does have a much better domestic supply of gas than oil.
Ms. Pelosi is guilty of poor oratory. Not much worse than saying, “We could get better gas mileage by driving a Chevrolet instead of a Corvette”.
5th grade summer school science class lesson:
Manufactured gas, made by heating coal is another thing entirely. It is what was used in the “gas streetlights of olde London”, was common “town gas” in the 19th century, and it among other things, heaver than air and poisonous. Natural gas, as it comes from the ground is odorless. They could make it smell like strawberries if they wanted to. When it was first marketed it was decided to add artificial scent to it to make it smell like the older coal gas which people were used to, so that it can be detected and recognized as a danger, since, although it is not toxic and lighter than air, it is indeed, quite flammable.
One should note that all the stories of people trying to commit suicide by turning on the gas and putting their head in the oven date back to the old manufactured coal gas. Although natural gas is non-toxic, you certainly can be killed from breathing it to the exclusion of oxygen, and of course, once the gas reaches an open flame, the whole house goes up and you burn to death. :).
Mr. Fusion, what exactly do you consider coal?
#9 – McC
>>Are we not Fair and Balanced enough for you?
Oh no. Overall, I’d say you’re pretty Fair and Balanced. I was merely commenting on Mr. C. Dvorak’s obvious hardon for Obama (and by extension, any Democrat).
It’s one thing to inadvertently separate out traditional fossil fuels (coal, oil) from natural gas. It’s quite another to say “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations”. Most people think of natural gas as being somehow “different” from coal and oil. But to forget about the invasion of Iraq? WTF??
Now if only you could be as Fair and Balanced in the religious domain. The Christian-pounding gets a little tedious, when there’s nobody to provide a counterpoint.
Fair and Balanced regarding religion???
You want to be pandered to? Why would that be?
Feel good like “Catholic Church apologizes to Galielo.” That sort of good news?
#2 – Fissile One
>>Hell, she had a rack back then too.
She was hot then, and she’s hot as a senior citizen. Aging, like a fine wine.
@ 11 TomB
I agree, the market should find it.
But right now the market isn’t allowed to operate properly. Tariffs need to be dropped from sugar ethanol from South America to make that fight more fair.
And in truth, I’m a proponent of giving renewables an unfair advantage for a decade. Training wheels to see if they can ever compete properly head to head with the incumbents. Also, I fear that we could have a severe oil crisis in the near future, so it’d probably be best if we have a plan b up and running before rather than after.
But maybe that’s just me…
Here you go Mustard:
#19 – hhopper
w00t! She looks like Anne Hathaway. Smokin’ hot!!!
hhopper, maybe you should post a picture of Cloris Leachman if you want to send Mustard over the top.
#21 – Cubie
>>hhopper, maybe you should post a picture of Cloris
>>Leachman if you want to send Mustard over the top.
If you don’t think Nance is a hottie, you must either prefer young boys or barnyard animals.
I’m sure the stuff is abundant and cheap where she is.
It is less cheap when you buy it nor is the supply unlimited.
There is a staggering amount of it in ice on the sea floor but nobody has been able to make us of any of that yet.
#14, Mr. Jay,
Mr. Fusion, what exactly do you consider coal?
That would be a solid fossil fuel. I fail to see the relevancy to your question as it should be evident to anyone with a room temperature IQ, so I will skip the obvious and boring explanation of the compacted vegetable matter.
If you would like more information, go here.
#9, McCullough
Are we not Fair and Balanced enough for you?
To be truly Fair and Balanced, all the editors would need their teeth capped and use more shellac on their hair. I would also rate the DU editors about 25 to 40 IQ points too high to qualify as worthy of the Fair and Balanced coterie.
#11, Tom
One guy makes bloopers and he’s a moron but if a democrat makes a blooper everyone else is a moron because they couldn’t read her mind.
Ya, so what’s your point? When the Chief Booba Republican makes a gaffe, it is often and usually not easily understood what he is talking about. Here, it is easily understood what was being talked about. Oh, and the Chief Booba Republican is a moran.
#15, Mustard,
Now if only you could be as Fair and Balanced in the religious domain.
Politics are about opinions. The ideas are abstract. With religion it is concrete; it either is or it isn’t. So either the bible is true or it isn’t true Life can not be balanced between that which is true and that which is untrue. Life tends to lean towards the truth.
#17, Mustard,
Aging, like a fine wine.
Or a dried plum.
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is absolutely no proof that oil or natural gas is derived from “fossils”. “Fossil fuel” is a buzz word that first originated decades ago to explain why oil is where it is. However, there is no proof that oil comes from decaying biological matter. Oil and natural gas have ZERO biometric markers to indicate where it came from. It is completely devoid of any biometric indicators. It is abiotic in nature.
Crude oil is made up of natural occurring elements such as carbon, hydrogen, sulphur, nitrogen, oxygen, and trace metals. Oil has been found in very deep wells that have no fossil identifiers whatsoever. How is that possible if it is a “fossil” fuel?
For decades, many scientists have postulated that crude oil is created at the intensely hot layer that separates the Earth’s molten core and the outer crust. The extreme temperatures combined with unimaginably immense pressure fuse the naturally occurring elements into crude oil. This oil eventually bubbles up towards the surface where we can drill down to it and pump it out.
What does this mean? It could mean that crude oil is a naturally existing compound that is infinitely and continuously being created and replenished by the planet.
http://tinyurl.com/ymgusf
Mustard, what was I thinking? Of course, 70 year old face lifted grandmothers are pretty damn hot.
Hermes: Where in Funkytown is the Professor?
Fry: Nothing in here but a couple of elephant skin rugs.
#25 – Fissile One
>>Politics are about opinions. The ideas are abstract.
>>With religion it is concrete; it either is or it >>isn’t.
I think you need to go back to school, Neutrino. Perhaps the nuances of spirituality go beyond what seems to be your third-grade options of TRUE or FALSE. If you think all of Christianity hinges on God being some guy with white hair and a beard, sitting up in the clouds shooting lightning bolts and thunder at the infidels, I feel sorry for your. You’re missing out on one of the richest experiences in life.
>>Or a dried plum.
So. Are you into young boys? Or barnyard animals?
“Fuel for Debate: Pelosi Suggests Natural Gas Isn’t a Fossil Fuel”
She’s not alone. Just Google “oil not from fossil fuel” and take a read.
#26–Mark==that blew me away when I first read about that theory. Course I think coal deposits and shale deposits “look like” they could be huge biosmass transformations, but geologic process makes a whole lot more sense to me==and it could always be a bit of both?
I love the scientific process. First ideas almost always wrong but start the process off to ultimate discovery?