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Before watching the clip I was going to say “I am an Oliver Stone fan but I think it is too soon for this movie. Not enough time has pasted for prospected.”
After seeing the clip, well now I want to see the movie.
Because Fahrenheit 911 worked so well.
Did he edit out the scenes of an invasion of Iran?
“W” Trailer = “Miserable Failure” !!! You could Google it !!!
Oliver Stone has stooped to the level of Micheal Moore.
What a horrible trailer. If the movie is even like the trailer, it’s a bomb. But enough stupid people will go out to see it. In whose mind do any of these people LOOK like the people they are portraying? It looks like some kind of a Muppet black comedy.
2,
Bla bla bla
“What do you think you are, a Kennedy?! You’re a Bush!”
I loled at that line alone. I looks like some great parody, to me. It’d probably be a funny movie, if it weren’t based on such a serious, sad, destructive, asinine, monstrous, cocaine-addicted, drunken, weirdo, madman, pre-1900 business man, gilded age leader and all of his wacky friends.
No matter how much Hollywood tries, very few normal people want to sit through a hate your country movie.
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OMG, there’s a BioPic of a sitting President! Gee, I wonder if people will base their opinions of the movie on their own personal politics before they even see it?
Conservatives are sure to slam this movie even before it opens, that’s a given.
It will be interesting to see how deep into the Presidency Stone gets, though, or if he focuses on GWB’s back story to the exclusion of his Presidency, say, ending the movie with GWB’s hand on the bible saying “I do solomly swear….”
I sure hope it’s not one of those flashback pics like he did with Nixon, though.
Bushieboy is too small a man to have a film about. It would be more appropriate for the film to be about Karl Rove and/or Cheney with Bushieboy playing the minor meatpuppet that he is in life. Or with the state of special effects today, maybe just that shrub that Doonesbury uses?
Given the objective personal and political failure of the man, I really would like to know how he garners any respect at all from the crowd, even the crowd here. Is it only that you personally benefit from his errant policies, or you go to the same church and can’t see past that, or that indeed he does appear to be a faithful husband and good father?
What in the world is there to admire about the performance of G Bush?
In the years since 9/11, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
Best Pres ever.
#12–Oliver==thank you. Yes, on its own, in a vacuum, those are accomplishments he could be admired for. But now, add in “at what cost” and what the immediately available alternatives were and if you are “rational” you should come to the opposite opinion.
I’m thinking most of the admiration is actually just a vague belief that he is better than the alternatives that were available (highly debatable) or that he is merely the symbol of all that is good about republicanism/conservatism even though he may or may not actually fulfill those fantasies.
So again, yes, in a vacuum, with no balancing.
Any other good thoughts?
#9 Eric, mobilizing the conservative base is what this movie will do best. Bashing Bush is bound to do nothing but help the Republican party. Just watch!
#11, Bobbo. I am ambivalent about a movie about Bush. I believe a movie about Rove/Cheney would be very, very interesting.
Bobbo,
The cost? Actually he’s been quite efficient. Study your history. Clinton in Bosnia, JFK starting Vietnam, Johnson screwing it up, Truman in North Korea. All democrats, all wars against countries that didn’t attack us. All more costly with dubious results.
Present day loony left wing junk logic is actually quite myopic.
Making a film about this Bush is like making a film about LBJ. I don’t want to even think about the man.
LBJ got more Americans killed but then he may have done a lot more good.
This guy is just a well meaning inept guy with tunnel vision and no respect for the constitution who put the white house up for sale to the highest bidder.
I’m sure he thinks he’s done a great job given the circumstances.
I wonder if it will have mention that his Grandad TRIED to have a president assassinated..
I applaud Stone’s bravery in making a movie that shows the President for what he is: a man of average ability and intelligence, who had the good fortune to be born into a very powerful and wealthy family. In any other country, W. would have been an aristocrat who went to parties and did charity work. But, in the U.S., the guy gets to become President–I think this is at the heart of Stone’s film, and definitely deserves to be discussed, examined, debated.
Can’t wait to see it !
What happened to Colin Powell and the small army of former Bush cronies that left in shame for betraying and lying to Americans ??
Did Stone cut them a break by leaving them out? I hope not.
#15–Oliver==efficient? It seems impossible but hasn’t Bush doubled the National Debt? Gas gone from $1.50 to $4.25 largely due to declining dollar, and “as an Oil man” has done nothing about energy?
I don’t think efficiency is a winning or even credible argument. So, after unilaterally invading foreign countries, Bushies accomplishments go downhill?
Got to be more there. Religious identification has to go a long way with some folks?
Any “real” ideas out there?
lame!!!!!
Straight to VHS.
#18
I agree. I haven’t read much about the movie but I would think Stone would see that there is a clear message and story worthy of a movie based on Bush’s personal characteristics and the political structure of our country.
The Bush family has been a powerful American family for more than a century. It does say a lot that a person of questionable qualifications like W would get to be president for two terms. It says a lot about the political structure and the despotic nature of our country.
Do the Bushes qualify as a dynasty?
What? No Darrell Hammond?
Boobo,
Funny you would assume I was talking about money. I wasn’t. If you want to talk about money, ok. I’m a lot wealthier since Bush has been in office, maybe the people that aren’t are just losers.
@Oliver
So, do you work for Blackwater or Haliburton?
#28–Oliver==you crack me up. Personally Benefitting from Bushies errant policies was my first suggestion and you tried to cover that self interest up with claims of foreign success==er, “efficiencies.”
So, yea, there are at least two theories about how people should vote in a democracy:
1. Your own self interest and let the country be damned with the aggregate interests forming their voting blocks, and
2. The countries best interest as best can be intuited.
Both of course have their adherents and declaimers. Whats sad is that few are honest about it.
Bobbo,I’d say his best quality is his not pandering to elites.
When Clinton was in office I had a good time snickering at his sexploits and weight loss gaffs. Reminded me of the sloppy next door neighbor that always offended but was actually harmless. Then ‘W’ became president and I thought I was in for more live entertainment. At first Georgie did not disappoint with his speaking goofs, but as time went on and his speaking goof-ups became a global embarrassment, then touching foreign dignitaries inappropriately, invading the wrong country, killing thousands of American soldiers, fucking up the economy, making enemies out of every country in the world, political shenanigans with his buddies Rove, Chenney et. al. The jokes are getting old. Bring out the hook.
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