Last week Al Gore challenged us to get off of carbon based fuels in 10 years, comparing the challenge to the Manhattan Project or Kennedy’s challenge to go to the moon. So I started thinking about that, wondering if it’s possible.

In comparing it to going to the moon, we are probably closer to getting off of oil than we were to going to the moon when Kennedy made his challenge. So I’m going to assume that it is doable. It’s just a matter of will, which was what Gore was trying to inspire. And I think that anyone who sees what’s going on in the world would agree that the scope of the problem makes the goal worthy.

Technology Required

Obviously, to make this happen, we have to assume that the solution will look very different than today’s power distribution. It will have to be a product of newer technology that is built on a paradigm shift and based on new existing technology as well as emerging technology. Here’s a partial list of the emerging technologies I think we need to focus on.

  1. Super Capacitors
  2. Advancements in High Voltage High Current Power Control Semiconductors
  3. Development of new high voltage insulation materials
  4. Converting the Grid to High Voltage DC
  5. Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistors
  6. High Voltage Underground DC in the Megavolt ranges
  7. Running Cars on Super Capacitors instead of Batteries
  8. Capacitive energy storage in a DC grid.
  9. Making Cars run on Super Capacitors
  10. Using Cars to store and move Electricity

These ideas are my own. They are not complete and although I have a good understanding of a lot of the material presented here, I’m not an expert. The idea here is to present a plausible overview that the experts can get excited about then go do it right. So if I’m off track on something or have missed a better way – fine. Build on the ideas.

The Power Grid of the Future

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One of the important pieces of a new energy plan is a different kind of electrical power grid. Because of the simplicity of transformers, AC power was a natural choice and, for the most part, the only choice. But now that has changed with new semiconductor and computer technology. Although DC is still more expensive than AC now, in the future that won’t be true. And here’s why …

DC has a lot of advantages over AC. DC requires only 2 conductors instead of 6 or 7 as in 6 phase AC. DC also doesn’t have the inductive and capacitive losses that AC does. And this is especially important when you go underground.

I think underground DC is the future of the gird. Underground has several important advantages. It’s protected from the weather; ice, wind, rain, hurricanes, tornadoes and solar mass ejections. In the future, solar flares are going to be a major problem as Earth is starting to go through magnetic reversal, so if power is already underground, then that will reduce the problems. Underground uses less real estate and looks better.

DC also doesn’t have the problem of having to match phase and frequency in order to interconnect systems the way AC does. That allows for better control of energy distribution and of power.

If we can also develop new high voltage insulating materials, we can increase the voltage, reduce the cost and move more power further. The new grid is going to need to be higher capacity to be able to move energy from where it is to where it needs to be.

What I see happening is that a hybrid grid is formed with the addition of a high voltage DC backbone added to the AC grid with parts of the high voltage AC grid being replaced with underground DC. AC would be used for regional distribution as it is now. The grid will also connect continents eventually allowing power to be moved from the parts of the world with power to the parts of the world that need power. More on that soon.

Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistors

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One of the things that makes the DC grid possible are advances in semiconductor technology. A new device called an insulated gate bipolar transistor allows high voltage DC to be converted to AC very efficiently. This is a revolution in the way we should be thinking about the grid. In the past AC has been popular because of the ability to use low tech transformers to step voltages up and down. DC couldn’t be converted efficiently, but now it can and we should be thinking in terms of a new grid based on direct current.

Super Capacitors

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Super capacitors from companies like EEstor and Maxwell are capacitors with storage capacities thousands of times the energy capacity of today’s capacitor. Super capacitors are very new and still in development but because of their capacity, it changes the entire electrical paradigm. Super capacitors can be used to be the batteries of electric cars and they can be used to add an energy storage component to the energy grid.

Super Capacitor Powered Electric Cars

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Not just because of the high capacities being achieved, but also because of the far faster charging rate, super capacitors are what I think is the future of electric powered vehicles. Super capacitors can be recharged in 5 minutes at special charging stations. Zenn Motor Company in Canada is going to have (as they claim) an electric car out in 2009 that goes 280 miles on a charge and has a top speed of 80mph.

In the next 10 years we need to switch to electric powered cars. Bio fuels are still carbon based. It’s liquid that has to be hauled in. Electricity can be moved all over the world through wires rather than pipes and trucks. And you can move it at the speed of light. It allows wind blowing in Texas to power cars in California.

Super Capacitors and Grid Energy Storage

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The current power grid is for the most part a real time system where power generated is used immediately. This requires that power generation match power consumption. But with super capacitors, electricity can be generated and stored for later use. This allows power to be generated at night, for example, in Texas wind farms and then be shipped over the DC grid to power charging stations for cars at night so that in the daytime when cars “fill up,” they can use nighttime wind energy.

Super capacitors can also be used to move electricity into areas where it is anticipated that it is going to be needed. For example, the weather forecast predicts a heat wave in Atlanta and electricity use for air conditioning is going to be high. With an energy storage grid, power generated the night before can be moved to the area and pre-positioned for use the next day. Energy storage would allow a whole new way of thinking about electricity distribution.

Using Cars as Grid Storage

The car of the future might become part of the electricity grid. As the capacities of super capacitors increase, cars will be able to store far more electricity than they need. Most cars are driving less than 2 hours a day which means that the car sits parked for 22 hours a day. And with tens of millions of cars just sitting there, they could be configured to provide power back to the grid when parked.

Not all cars would be part of the system, however people can have charging units in their garage or car port that automatically connect to the car when at home, parked at work or parked at public transit parking garages. These connection would allow power to be transferred in both directions. It can fill the car with power or tap power from the car to help the grid meet the energy needs of the local grid. Thus the car can be charged at night when the grid load is low and the power used in the daytime when the grid load is high.

The fully charged car is driven to work where it is again connected to the grid. While the car sits there, it is either charged or discharged depending on the needs of the grid. Each car would have a computer with a setting as to how much power the car is willing to share so that the grid doesn’t take too much power. The system would make sure that the car has plenty of power left over to get home or wherever the car needs to go later.

Cars that share power in this way would get energy credits for being allowed to be used to power the grid. So if a car is charged at night and gives back power in the day, the owner might get enough energy credit to get free power making their commute to work at virtually no cost. Cars that are constantly on the road during peak power times would pay a higher rate for electricity.

In Conclusion

If we are going to solve the energy problem sooner rather than later, we have to change our way of thinking from what we are doing now to what we will be doing 20 years from now. That is going to take new thinking and vision; thinking in revolutionary terms rather than evolutionary terms.

The suggestions here aren’t perfect, have mistakes and can be improved upon. It is also just one piece of the energy puzzle, but it is the core of energy distribution. Electricity is one of the most efficient means of energy distribution. It doesn’t require energy to be hauled on trucks, trains or through pipes. It is a universal interface connection – generation of power with the consumer of power.

The new elements in this paradigm is the energy storage part. Super capacitors are an emerging technology. High voltage DC is also fairly new, not that it hasn’t been tried, but new technology is making it more cost effective. As inverter technology improves, DC power will become more affordable. As new materials for insulators becomes available, the voltages can be increased and the cost of underground cables will decrease. As more cars convert to super capacitors, the grid will adapt to using them as mobile batteries to power the electricity infrastructure.

There are other technologies on the horizon as well. If we invent high temperature superconductors we can store power in magnetic fields and create magnetic bearings for flywheel storage of power. Carbon nanotubes will also play an important part in the future as well as other types of nano-technology used in advanced materials to create technologies that we haven’t yet though of.

So I invite readers of this to spread the word and use this article as an example of using new ideas and new thinking to achieve Al Gore’s challenge of getting off of carbon based fuels in 10 years. And if someone has a better idea – go for it.




  1. bobbo says:

    A few months ago I posted a web site regarding (from memory) the advantages of a “plug-in hybrid to grid” energy system that read word for word as your post except you added the capacitor issue and the DC issue. Many fine websites discuss this and related issues. I don’t recall capacitor issue but assume a quite google will reveal the drawbacks/challenges?

    One idea I added is to have recharging strips/induction coils laid down under the road surface. Like toll roads, electrics could get on these for long trips or even local trips and actually be charged while driving. There are lots of solutions once we finally decide energy inedependence is important.

    Several experts on TV said that it is impossible to get off oil in 10 years as all the plans call for technology that is not available.

    So–I too like the idea of distributed generation and storage AND if we don’t set a goal, we will never make progress. So, lets go find our boots and get going.

  2. Holden says:

    Why bother doing or thinking anything based on what Al Gore says? I’m all for alternative/experimental energy sources, but please lets not let Al Gore spread his propaganda. His interests are in the business of “green”. Look at the timeline and you’ll see that everything from An Inconvenient Truth up to this point is really designed as PR for Generation Investment Management. He’s all about green, only it’s the kind of green you see on dollar bills.

  3. George Greek says:

    PLEASE get your hands on the January 2008 issue of ‘Scientific American’. There is an excellent article on how it is currently viable to meet most of our energy needs with SOLAR energy, that is stored underground in pressurized cells!!! A relatively small area in the Arizona desert would supply our total energy needs, and supposedly, the technology EXISTS TODAY. Get your hands on this article… copy it, and distribute it to friends and family.

  4. Daav0 says:

    cars cars cars your car my car mine mine mine me me me me me me me me me

    bleeeeeeyech (the sound of vomiting)

    cars are the problem. get out of denial.

  5. Darrel says:

    Holden says regarding Gore: “He’s all about green, only it’s the kind of green you see on dollar bills.”

    DAR
    Good point. Al Gore puts together a best selling book, stars in the 4th highest grossing documentary of all time, earning $49 million, and what does he do with his earnings?

    To quote:

    “Tipper and I are devoting 100 percent of the profits from the book and the movie to a new bipartisan educational campaign to further spread the message about global warming.”

    Now there is a guy that is “all about making money.”

    What a load.

    D.
    source:
    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2006_4128989

  6. Holden says:

    Darrel,
    I think you missed my point. Gore is involved in “green” investment firms, Generation Investment Management and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, both of which benefit from the “green” industry. Take a look at those 2 companies, and how Al Gore is tied into both, then rethink why he’s taking his profits from An Inconvenient Truth and giving it away.

    I’m not questioning whether or not he is for the environment. I just hope that people get all the facts and then make up their mind.

  7. Marc Perkel says:

    #25 Dvorak.org runs on the methane coming from dead kittens.

  8. Darrel says:

    HOLDEN
    “Gore is involved in “green” investment firms…”

    DAR
    Good. I hope they do well. Green industry needs investment, a lot of it, and the sooner the better. You say he is “involved” with them but you don’t show how this is bad or in anyway improper or that he is doing anything inconsistent by his involvement with this green investment firm. It’s just a cheap attempt to smear him with guilt by association with nothing backing it up. As if “involvement” with a green investment firm is a bad thing, or something we should even be surprised to see Gore involved with. Certainly he knows the green industry needs massive investment. It makes perfect sense that he would want to lend his celebrity status to push more green investment.
    He’s also an adviser with Google and on the board of Apple, so he’s making big change (pun intended). Good for him. Did he ever claim to not be a capitalist? If he did, then you got him. Is making money some how inconsistent with the coming growth of green industry? Hardly. In fact it is what will drive it.

    D.

  9. DavidC says:

    I think the issue with the cars is that in a typical power grid, the problem is demand and load on the connecting lines. Therefore, having literally a million points of input of power (stored all night and waiting for peaks in key times) in which a power company could pull out closer to demand, and without bottleneck worries, the power companies would be delighted.

    To compare, wind and solar is now mandatorily accepted by US law into the grid. The power companies have no problem with this, because it usually comes in from a distant point from a power generating station.

    Think of it like water. There is a big water tower, and if you are on the end of a line, the pressure may be very low because of all the thousands of people between you and the resource. If your neighbor put high pressure water into the system, it would greatly help you. That is the idea of cars being a holding place for extra energy. They get closer to the peak needs, and eliminate the bottleneck problems.

    Frankly I think a system of some kind of insertion device, (say a box that is the size of a lunch box that would plug into a special slot in your car) would be better than a charging station. This would solve the distance problem (only so many miles on a charge). You want to go from Altanta to LA, you could do it without ever plugging in and having to recharge the car. Gas stations could handle an energy pack something like gas LP tanks, and they would simply have a high power DC link to recharge them as they come in.

    The idea of having a plug or something at home and at work would probably work if it would automatically connect once you are in the parking slot.

    Another issue I think is missing here is a more efficient solar system that would literally become a standard building material (all buildings, roofs, and car bodies would be made of this) and it would charge constantly. With this, each house would use this for its roof, and perhaps a family’s total energy use may become null (they generate equal to what they use, or at least close to that).

    The objection I would see to all of this is that the utilities companies would have to really put up the front money, and change the entire system, and as long as they are not forced to do so, and if they sense somehow they lose revenue or control, they simply will stay with the status quo.

  10. Mr. Fusion says:

    #24, btolle,

    Put up enough wind generators in Kansas and the wind will stop blowing in Texas.

    Your reasoning is missing something. This comment is just totally off the end.

    Sorry folks, all I see so far is a lot of lipstick and no really new ideas.

    Then try reading Marc’s article.

    Currently, the best value in gasoline and diesel fuel is their portability and firm infrastructure support. Other fuels, such as propane or natural gas have only a few filling stations in a few areas. Electricity can not be bought by the gallon or other transportable unit, it may only be purchased as current or small batteries.

    Marc’s idea, as I read it, is to make electricity more portable by filling a capacitor with electricity. This storage could then used is any of several ways. To power the car, power a house during a blackout, and to store power during low demand times to be used during high demand times. All ideas very worthy of consideration.

    The infrastructure is mostly there. Every house is wired already and could accept AC or DC. The bonus comes when the demand is low, such as at night and during temperate day time temperatures, excess produced power could be stored in capacitors, including plugged in cars. You would NOT be billed for the amount of power in the capacitor in the car, but for the amount of power actually used.

    It is a great idea, quite doable with minimal infrastructure changes, and relatively inexpensive. We will never kick out oil addiction if we keep saying “it can’t be done”. I always knew Marc was more than a pretty face.

  11. efil says:

    Lots of discussion about how, completely ignoring the larger question, Why? Let it alone. Fuel prices will rise, people will change their habits, needs will be filled by whatever is most economical.

    Or we could try the government run solution. Ask the Russians how well that works.

  12. ECA says:

    Until the power industry LOOSENS the strings to CONTROL power production…
    you wont be allowed to create anything.
    they want a commerce market.
    that can be PLAYED with.

    Think of what could be done with copper strips in the highway, and a small magnet under most cars..

  13. ArianeB says:

    #24
    Yes the law of thermodynamics applies both ways. Fuel has to be burned and the heat energy has to be converted to mechanical energy to move the car, all of that is academic.

    Electric cars have been around longer than gas powered cars. Until recently we preferred gas to electricity, because gas was cheaper.

    Oil is in decline, it will never be cheap again. There is no “fuel” that can replace it.

    Hydrogen fuel and “shale oil” require more energy to produce than the energy you get out. It is far more efficient to just use the electricity needed to generate the fuel directly, and skip the whole “fuel” step.

    Bottom line, we are witnessing the end of the internal combustion engine. Solar and wind power have their drawbacks, but they are renewable.

    Nuclear is NOT renewable, and uses lots of water. I would support expanding nuclear power in the eastern US to replace oil and coal burning plants.

    The western US does not have the spare water to support a lot of new nuclear plants, but has tons of sunny places and windy places, and geothermal hot spots, and stronger waves for wave power. The western US is already powered heavily by hydroelectric sources.

    All of these sources generate electricity, not fuel. That means transportation has to convert to electricity, not fuel.

    There is no ONE answer, there are lots of little answers. Travel is going to get hard and unrealiable no matter what

  14. KD Martin says:

    #15, Ron Larson, “Then spend all the money on figuring out ways to dispose of the nuke waste by hauling it to space and shooting it into the sun.”

    Nice proposition, but because of the finite odds for mission failure and total catastrophe, it will never happen. “Challenger, go at throttle up.” Shipping and storing waste is still a huge problem.

    Nuclear power is a good solution, but because of the waste disposal problem, perhaps not the best solution at this time. Darn!

    Whoever comes up with an environmentally safe solution will have more money than Bill Gates.

  15. KD Martin says:

    Forgot to say, nice article, Marc!

  16. Its amazing how al gore has all these ideas and comments for the average person yet travels around in a most fuel inefficient , wasteful corporate jet going

  17. Mr. Fusion says:

    #46, Nepon,

    This article is about an alternative to using rapidly depleting hydrocarbons as an energy source. So what is your suggestion we do to replace our energy need?

  18. jescott418 says:

    It really great to make statements like Al Gore and T. Pickens about all these great things we should do to stop our dependance on oil.
    But who’s gonna finance it?? We talk about electrifying large trucks but they drive 600 plus miles a day at 80,000 lbs gross. How is it that a electric motor will pull that? Let’s face facts that we have made some pretty good choices in how we have powered our vehicles and homes.
    All of a sudden we are paying for gas what the rest of the world has been paying for a long time and we are crying foul and demanding change?
    We have already made poor choices about alternative fuels such as ethanol which has drove up the price of corn. Now what’s going to happen to our already stressed power grid if we get people and businesses to power vehicles with electric cars? I really don’t see anyone talking about a well rounded solution that does not put stress on another part of our power system.

  19. BigCarbonFoot says:

    I used to think Algore was in it for the money, but I don’t anymore. I’m pretty sure it’s all about revenge. He’s out to destroy the economy and the lives of everyone to get back at them for not voting for him.

    There’s not really a problem, but any new energy sources are good. Anything that allows more cars, more roads and more urban sprawl would be a good thing. I think it’s a crime that we’re not breaking ground on 250 new nuclear plants right now this instant. No wasted time planning, doing environmental impact studies, etc. Pick a standard design and build identical plants everywhere. 250 ow, 250 more as soon as the first batch is done.

    On top of that, drill here, drill there, start drilling everywhere. There’s plenty of oil. Take the evil pricks in Congress that are blocking drilling, shoot them for treason and start drilling.

    Hell, If Al were really into saving mankind, he’d volunteer to have himself rendered into biodiesel.

  20. adri3nn3 says:

    #30
    Evaporative cooling, while effective in an arid climate, isn’t exacly useful as a cooling method in humid subtropical areas. A large chunk of the southern United States,for instance, where the low end of average humidity is around 75%.

  21. Smartalix says:

    the only problem with switching to a DC grid is the infrastructure needed to implement. Digitizing the current grid would save a tremendous amount of energy because it would allow for better monitoring and control with the existing infrastructure. We can save so much just by eliminating and reducing inefficiencies in the system.

  22. Mr. Fusion says:

    #51, Alix,

    I don’t think Marc is suggesting this could be done overnight or for free. This is an idea that is workable AND an inexpensive adjunct.

    Yes, curing inefficiencies will save a lot of power. BUT, if we could save half of our current hydrocarbon usage by converting cars only to capacitor electric, and increasing alternative energy sources such as algae diesel we could eliminate all oil imports.

    Whatever the solution it will only come if something is started.

  23. MikeN says:

    Yes nice article Mark. The detail about cars just irritates me for some reason. I see no advantage, yet so many are pushing it. A cost benefit analysis of putting in 2 way capability would show it’s not worth it I think.
    Ignoring that, just consider the cost of a single capacitor for a car. If it is very high, then it is not worth putting it in a car. If not, then you can build extra ones cheaply and just use those.

  24. Marc Perkel says:

    MikeN,

    True if they get really cheap then we don’t need to use car storage. I’m thinking that the price will come down to where they are still expensive, yet cost effective enough to put in cars. And the idea is that car would already be plugged in most of the time charging so that are already there. Why buy more capacitors when you already have them connected to the grid when cars aren’t being driven?

    Obviously power charging stations, hospitals, data centers, and other high priority users would have their own capacitors.

    And – I might be dead wrong about cars as batteries for the grid. But the concept of electrical grid storage I think is the important point.

  25. Ron Larson says:

    Regarding disposal of nuclear waste. I want to see more creative solutions to get the waste off the planet. Strapping it to a rocket is not an option. As mentioned, rockets and Shuttles can and do fail.

    I was thinking that the savings could build a space elevator. Then material could slowly and safely be lifted to low orbit, then moved to high orbit for staging to inter-solar transport.

  26. Rich says:

    The diagram of the capacitors said 31 Farad!!! Jeeee-zus!!!

  27. Marc Perkel says:

    Go to maxwell.com and you’ll see 3600 farad caps.

  28. ECA says:

    1 more thing…
    IF YOU DONT INSTALL IT…
    the CORPS and GOV will…
    If the Gov installs it, the CORPS get to rent/run/sell it TO YOU.
    IF the CORPS do it, they get to run/SELL it to you.

    you will have NO choice in what you are going to pay.

    REason for price increases…
    Is that WHEN they CHANGE OVER…
    They want the SAMe profit nargin that they have NOW…

  29. fred says:

    #48
    “All of a sudden we are paying for gas what the rest of the world has been paying for a long time”.
    Just as a point of information, this statement is, unfortunately, inaccurate by a factor of about two. Where I live, we have to pay almost exactly twice the current US price for gas – and this is relatively inexpensive compared with prices in most neighboring countries.

    People in the US have not yet begun to understand what expensive gas really means and that is precisely why the current discussion is so important and why Mark’s views should be discussed seriously.

  30. gadgetenvy says:

    I have been telling my husband for years we need super capacitors. If you think of the electricity we generate now with solar or wind like water falling over a dam, the problem is when that water is gone, we lose the use of it. With super capacitors, we can save energy produced during slack times for peak demand.
    The car idea is genius. The car capacitors would also spread out demand on the grid, meaning we don’t have to transmit power so far and lose so much energy in the process.

    I too would like to compliment Marc on the great thought provoking article.
    -Carrie


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