Either he said it or he didn’t, why is Sky News saying he did? My guess is they got it from this excerpt:

Obama said:

“…I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen – a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.”




  1. MikeN says:

    So you expect me to believe you read to post #20,but didn’t look around to see post#22? Even though you posted #35 in that same thread, you had no idea what I was talking about? And your link just happens to not work, so no one can check for themselves (it’s 19302), and see what a liar you are?

  2. Glenn E. says:

    #1- “They’re saying it because Sky News and Fox News are both owned by Newscorp.”

    Thanks for relating that Eric. I suspected Sky Angel of being in bed with Fox, as they count Fox News among their choice of “religious” picks. Isn’t that a crock?! I keep telling my elderly mother, not to get the service, because it’s likely to be politically biased. Not I see that I was right! Sky is using distortions to promote McCain over Obama. NewsCorp’s Sky Angel is just their latest wolf in sheep’s clothing. Targeting the easily swayed elderly and religious voters.

  3. Smartalix says:

    32,

    Just say your piece here. Diverting people to look shit up is another lazy method you pencil-dicks use to avoid thiinking.

    Give me one solid criticism and let’s discuss it, if you have the brains and balls. No obfuscation, let’s talk policy and facts.

    Frankly, I doubt you’ll answer me with any clarity or intelligence.

  4. Paddy-O says:

    #26 “They have no real criticism so they live for this straw-man bullshit. ”

    Okay. His economic policy (if you can call the generalizations posted on his site “policy”)are a classic recipe for financial disaster. He has no research & evaluation of what changed and thus broke the health care system yet he has a plan to “fix” it.

    If your car stopped working and you brought it to the dealer and they didn’t do a diag
    or study the problem, would you let them sell you a trailer with a 1000 HP engine to hook up to your car to “fix it”?

  5. Smartalix says:

    Okay. His economic policy (if you can call the generalizations posted on his site “policy”)are a classic recipe for financial disaster. He has no research & evaluation of what changed and thus broke the health care system yet he has a plan to “fix” it.

    OK, fine. That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. See? that didn’t hurt, did it? You gave me your opinoin like an adult.

    Now, why do you feel his financial policies are so perilous? Let’s discuss this.

  6. MikeN says:

    If you insist. I avoided it to avoid the wrath of bobbo.

    Pop quiz, hot shot. Pick out the “We Are The World” lyrics vs. Obama speech lines.

    A: “We can’t go on pretending day by day that someone, somewhere will soon make a change.”

    B: “This is the moment we must help answer the call.”

    C: “But if you just believe there’s no way we can fall.”

    D. “The world will watch and remember what we do.”

    E. “Let us realize that a change can only come when we stand together as one.”

    F. “We cannot afford to be divided.”

    G. “These now are the walls we must tear down.”

    H. “This is the moment when we must come together.”

    I. “They’ll know that someone cares, and their lives will be stronger and free.”

  7. Paddy-O says:

    #36 – I’ve posted in the past on both candidates proposed policies and their weaknesses. You can search for if you want.

  8. Mr. Fusion says:

    #32, Lyin’ Mike,

    So you expect me to believe you read to post #20,but didn’t look around to see post#22? Even though you posted #35 in that same thread, you had no idea what I was talking about? And your link just happens to not work, so no one can check for themselves (it’s 19302), and see what a liar you are?

    Why should I look at #22. You gave no reference as to what your bullshit was. If you wanted someone to copy and paste #22 you could very well have done it yourself.

    It was just now I see I linked to THIS thread instead of the correct one. That is my error and I apologize. That still does not excuse your not having posted the link yourself. I did post the actual comment though.

    #37, Lyin’ Mike,

    If you insist. I avoided it to avoid the wrath of bobbo.

    I’m sure Bobbo is laughing quite hard at that one.

    I have no idea what the intent of your “pop quiz” is about. If it is to suggest that Obama wants all the world to be a better place then great, I’m all for that. If it is because not once has Obama said “Fuck the poor, screw those unfortunate not to earn $500,000 a year” then hey, good for him.

    In fairness, I don’t know all the words for “We are the World”. It was a great concert though and I did donate towards it. But geeze, that was over 20 years ago. Were you one of those picketing outside with signs suggesting the poor blighters could just bloody well starve to death?

  9. Smartalix says:

    38, shit-paddy,

    Lame cop-out, bad troll. Too bad you are too much of a pussy to discuss anything you may actually have to defend intelligently. Pencil-dick.

  10. soo lucky says:

    Behind every successful man is a surprised woman


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