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Guess we can now get rid of cops. Can’t go around arresting people for doing things they have no control of. That would be a civil rights violation. I mean, could you imagine arresting someone for being black?
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One gene called MAOA that played an especially strong role has been shown in other studies to affect antisocial behavior — and it was disturbingly common, the team at the University of North Carolina reported.
People with a particular variation of the MAOA gene called 2R were very prone to criminal and delinquent behavior, said sociology professor Guang Guo, who led the study.
“I don’t want to say it is a crime gene, but 1 percent of people have it and scored very high in violence and delinquency,” Guo said in a telephone interview.
Found by Brother Uncle Don.
People ALWAYS need to be made responsible for their own actions.
What genetic coding ALWAYS more relevantly but more controversially raises is the issue of EUGENICS.
If I were having a kiddie, I would abort a fetus with these genes and see what the next brood would bring.
Those who think every sperm is precious may wrongheadedly disagree.
#1, The issue of eugenics is an interesting one. If you were to speak of any other species except for humans, most would readily agree with the notion especially given that it’s been done with domesticated animal species for thousands of years. But once you start talking about us, people tend to stick their fingers in their ears and sing “la,la,la,la,…” before calling you a racist.
The aborting defective offspring issue is also quite the hot potato. I was watching a news program where parents with Down’s Syndrome were vocally against the idea because then their precious kids would have fewer people like them to associate with. I can’t imagine anything more selfish and preposterous than this “we demand that you share in our misery” attitude.
Those who think every sperm is precious may wrongheadedly disagree.
I don’t think a sperm and a fetus (or even zygote) are even remotely similar, physiologically or morally. I have no stated opinion on abortion (none of my business) but I’m just sayin’.
I didn’t see that the report is trying to excuse anyone from their actions or behavior, but anything that helps explain our current situation in this country wrt violence and apathy is bound to help. As always, prevention is the best cure. You can’t prevent something you don’t fully understand. I mean, you can kill some of them at (or before) birth but not all of them, or even enough of them.
I have also read for many years that there is a lot of evidence that even very minor frontal lobe brain trauma can cause permanent brain injury leading to violent behavior… and that type of injury is commonly caused by the “shaken baby” thing.
#2–Sea Lawyer==glad you got your sea legs back.
#3–ubi==just because you said it:
“I don’t think a sperm and a fetus (or even zygote) are even remotely similar, physiologically or morally.” /// How remote is remote? They are all human aren’t they? All potential life? The only thing separating them is imagination.
“I didn’t see that the report is trying to excuse anyone from their actions” /// No, that was in the posters comments. But “relevantly” how much genetic influence can be present before people are not held responsible? Take homosexuality. Can’t blame the kiddies if its genetically controlled. Just the question of eugenics again.
“you can kill some of them at (or before) birth but not all of them” /// If the gene is present in only 1%, of course you could kill them all, and we should to the degree the gene directly controls for violence? Option is usually gene therapy of some sort, counseling after birth? In general, I am against the government forcing anything, but lets suppose the gene’s influence is “overwhelming” and not correctable. In such cases, a wise government, a caring government, would inform and educate the parents and offer bribes and incentives to have the kiddie aborted with negative incentives of some sort should the decision be made to not abort. But no “forcing” for now.
Not only that, but the equal protection guarantees of the US Constitution and many state constitutions means that violence must be allowed and promoted.
#5 – I agree.
#1 – Disagree. Anyone who believes in evolution and is an atheist, MUST agree that man is nothing more than a collection of cells. There is no free will as there is only genetics and programming input from the environment you grew up in.
Free will outside those parameters requires a spiritual context for man that doesn’t exist. Ergo, no one CAN be responsible for their behavior and can’t be discriminated against by the state.
Cripes! #6 – go to a fracking library, will you. I’m not going to excerpt any of the books dealing with the redirective capacity of the cerebral cortex just for you.
No significant writer from the viewpoint of philosophical materialism has offered up the kind of crap strawman you think is your opponent – in the last 150 years or so.
Who is this Eugene and how can he make people do things?
The real danger is that this info may be used to profile people in the future. What if they use the info drug your kid simply because they are worried he or she will growup to be a crook because of their genes?
#10, that’s why you should jump on the “abort early, abort often” train. Don’t have to worry about issues of infringing rights with things that don’t yet have any.
It’s a dicey ethical issue, but you guys are going way over the top. The thing that impressed me most about the article was that children with the genes, but raised in stable loving homes, were not criminal. It was only when there was a combination of genes and dysfunctional families that we had any issues.
It may prove useful in the future to screen children for the genes, and if they have them, then direct intensive social supports for their development.
12,
It’s like some cancers. You may have the genetic marker, but unless you encounter a trigger, you are fine.
Are you suggesting this is a get out of jail free gene? I don’t buy that.
Are you suggesting this a take them out and shoot them to improve the species gene? I don’t buy that either.
Let them decide if they live or die and then don’t argue with them about it.
If you terminate a person for reasons other than self defense or the defense of others you have used up your right to live. Blood dept needs to be paid and the person that took a life needs to settle up.
Do I sound old fashioned and crude? I don’t care. If you owe blood dept you need to pay blood dept. It is in my genes.