Intel, the giant chip maker and longtime partner of Microsoft, has decided against upgrading the computers of its own 80,000 employees to Microsoft’s Vista operating system, a person with direct knowledge of the company’s plans said.
The person, who has been briefed on the situation but requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of Intel’s relationship with Microsoft, said the company made its decision after a lengthy analysis by its internal technology staff of the costs and potential benefits of moving to Windows Vista, which has drawn fire from many customers as a buggy, bloated program that requires costly hardware upgrades to run smoothly.
“This isn’t a matter of dissing Microsoft, but Intel information technology staff just found no compelling case for adopting Vista,” the person said.
The end-of-life scenario for XP is in process. The announced “schedule” for W7 readies everyone for the next round of improvements.
Choices, anyone?
Thanks, K B
The clear choice is to switch to GNU/Linux and OpenOffice and use an AMD Processor and let BOTH INTEL AND M$ ***ROT*** !!!
Don’t want no stink’n AMD cpu nor a GNU/Linux hairball but I like OpenOffice !
An upgrade to Microsoft Vista from XP is not an upgrade
Microsoft Vista the Windows ME of our time
It goes to show what happens when power is concentrated and controlled by people ( authorities ) at the top and then surrounded by a cadre of yes men
Interesting how the Microsoft self serving spokespeople keep trying to snowball their users with skewed out of context facts and figures
Figures do not lie but liars figger
A friend of mine Rayburn informed me on an upgrade from 98 that “The World is going Vista”
Time for Apple to step up and claim its prize. Now is the best time to step in and show the world the M$ is not the only game in town. What Apple needs is a business centric Mac line that is comparable with Dell and HP and centers on business feature and not so much “wow” hardware designs that its consumer line is known for.
Desktop Linux also has its shot, but if it fails to gain any traction now, it never will.
#4 “Time for Apple to step up and claim its prize.”
Smart people use XP: http://tinyurl.com/6yndxh
#3 you do know that Vista is already the 2nd most successful OS ever (after XP) right whether you like it or not? And no matter what whiney and out of date blogs you seem to read, its a damn sight better than XP in pretty much every way. Its also worth noting that EVERY new OS uses more resources than its predecessor, or do you not remember the days when you could get windows on a couple of 720k floppies.
One big problem is that most OSes are now pretty much matured, and there isn’t all that much that can be done to them in terms of features and such that won’t get the publisher into trouble with companies that make existing apps which have or can add the same capabilities. Apple has even stated that there won’t be any new features in Snow Leopard, their upcoming OS.
Personally I think that the largest issue with Vista (other than the stupid uneducated opinions floating about that its no good) is the name. If MS had just called it Windows XP 2 people would be quite happy with it instead of going on and on like a broken fucking record about how bad and bloated it is, even though they haven’t actually used it.
Too much time passed for too few obvious improvements since XP, although the raft of new stuff ‘under the hood’ that most users won’t ever be exposed to but are really good is simply enormous.
I use Linux for everything I do with the exception of multitrack recording, for which I still use Windows becuase the software and device drivers for Linux just don’t work.
I could switch to a Mac today and have one OS but I refuse to pay Apple’s inflated prices. Not to mention that Jobs is a f-ing a-hole.
I think this is a wise decision on Intel’s part. Is Vista a way to lock in Intel chips in new computer purchases since Macs do not have AMD chips? I heard Vista drove a lot of XP users to the Mac.
Disclosure: I own Intel stock
#1: Only problem with going Linux and AMD now is AMD teamed up with ATI… Linux and ATI don’t get along that well, I know they’re working on open source drivers now but if you’re a Linux user, Nvidia has them beat still
How much money would it cost Intel to upgrade 80,000 computers? What is the benefit? A prettier GUI that runs a little slower and can make use of more ram?
@zybch
Shill much? Vista is a dog and you know it.
I love picture. Is that how white people “get down”?
@12: Yes. That is how we “get down.”
Intel is right. There really is nothing in Vista that is worth upgrading for.
The few Vista machines I’ve dealt with have been nightmares of problems. I installed SP1 for a friend’s machine, and it lost the optical drive and now runs like crap. It looks a registry hack to get the optical drive back. I was NOT impressed. And this is a new machine that came with Vista.
Choices? MS-DOS 3.2
Why should we upgrade machines that work fine on XP? I support about a hundred XP machines. Vista has nothing to offer except different/same support issues. I will use Vista in new machines not in the current machines that have no issues. I had one new machine running Vista. It’s an XPS 1330 from Dell. Ran like a dog. After 6 months the user finally begged to have it downgraded to XP. Now he loves it. Runs great. I bought my daughter a Dell that runs Vista. She has no problem with it. Of course she is not a power user.
Ummm… Does anyone actually know how a company would upgrade 80,000 machines? You do it on a schedule, like a phone company upgrades switches.
Its systematically planned and executed. Not done on a whim when you have to contend with whole departments of thousands and thousands of machines.
Why would this surprise anyone?
@MikeR
If you want a command line may I suggest any Linux 2.6 distribution?
Sorry to rain on peoples parade, 🙂 As someone who’s run Vista since RC1 came out, and currently on SP1.
This is all FUD. With XP, 2000, you were advised to get new hardware, and more ram (more ram at least depending on your machine config)
I started at RC1 with a P4 3.0 GHz and 2 Gigs of ram. But the processor was running at 50% until I turned off Aero.
I upgraded to a Core2Duo 2.4 Ghz machine with 3 Gigs of ram (paying the same $$ I did 4 years ago about $1200) and Ultimate humms very well.
There is no mystery here. Its just new stuff. All my printers and scanners (Cheap HP units) worked when it was relased.
So I don’t get it. If you can show me where you say Vista is a Dog, I’ll be able to show you why, and its probably that its being starved for resources.
No Mystery.
Its a new way of doing things, things they should have done a long time ago. Its more secure, I’ve had fewer BSOD/uncommanded reboots than on any other system (this was on the P4 mind you)
See why this is FUD? If you don’t want to upgrade then stay with XP, its O.k.. Just like you wouldn’t take a performance car (Porsche, BMW, etc.) on gravel and complain about its handling, the same applies to Vista.
Not to say its perfect mind you, but this stuff saying its dead is so much carping and FUD.
Microsoft ran smack into the Osborne Effect with Intel.
http://tinyurl.com/6h3nfs
Going on #17 Thinker, above, of course upgrading 80,000 computers will take a bunch of time and money. But wait! Isn’t Microsoft releasing a “new and improved” Vista at the end of 2009 (Win7, and I will believe Q4 2009 when I see it).
Taking Microsoft’s word, that gives us about 18 months. With 80,000 computers to upgrade, that comes out to about 4,400 computers per month just to have all the computers upgraded by the time Win 7 comes out.
@Thinker
Where do you get your talking points? I would like to cut out the middleman.
#21
🙂 Talking points were gleamed through my own experience, and Microsofts site. Not to mention my own experience with 98, ME, XP, and Vista.
I’ve been doing IT for 10 years, with the last 5 being in a Corporate IT department.
I could give you more details if you like, ad nauseum…
[Duplicate comment deleted. – ed.]
#19 “So I don’t get it. If you can show me where you say Vista is a Dog, I’ll be able to show you why, and its probably that its being starved for resources.”
You answered your own question. You have to beef up the H/W big time over an XP spec to get no real added benefit. There’s your dog, and it don’t hunt.
#26 Not quite… Beefing up the hardware is a *prerequisite* for Vista. But in this case it just means getting whats currently on the market.
XP Spec was created years ago and is the XP spec.
Vista Spec created later and is the XP Spec.
Those are the details. Not having any added benefit depends wholy on what you’re trying to get done, and could be quite true, and has no bearing on whether its a dog or not.
Like I said, if you had mostly gravel roads to drive on you wouldn’t buy a Posrche. At least I wouldn’t.
Vista does need more resources than XP. Everybody knows it so that isn’t news. You’ve either got a reason to upgrade such as it came with the new hardware or to hang on to XP like I have old hardware with no drivers or I don’t want to or can’t reconfigure what I have or this odd ball software won’t work.
The rest of the Vista bad mouthing is dung. The people I know in the flesh find their operating system works. They may have all sorts of problems but the problems aren’t with the OS. They all are pretty much ignoring the OS which is what you are supposed to do with an OS.
I’m starting to think that people who don’t ignore their OS and just use their computers are crazy.
#27 – “Not having any added benefit depends wholy on what you’re trying to get done, and could be quite true, ”
So, for the average office worker or home user there are no real benefits over XP AND you need more H/W. I’ve been in IT since Mini-computers so forget even TRYING to B.S. me on tech points. That’s a good definition of a dog for me. Would I swap out at home or the employees of the company? Not a chance. No added benefit… Unless, you can list them…
Patrick, 🙂
*IF* you’re in IT, then you’re aware that everything is requirements driven. What do you need to do, and what do you need to get there? If the average person is productive with Office 2003, and it meets the buisiness goals and needs then go with it.
I’m just saying if one were to put 91 octane gas instead of 87 (which is what the manual spec out) into their econobox car and then wondered why they didn’t get better MPG/Performance, they need to look at what they were trying to accomplish in the first place.
You are entirely correct when you say the average office worker gets go real benefits over XP and would need more hardware. Correct! But are there other questions the buisiness/enterprise are looking to answer? If so you have to look at that as well.
It all depends on how a home user, or a office worker is defined in the question. (If you want to talk of no added benefit, would you go back to 98? 95? 3.1.1? )
I got Vista on a new lap box 3 months ago.
With all the poor reviews,I thought I was getting a barking dog.
So I got a box with 3 G of ram and an Intel duo core with 2 G of ram on the chip.
It works fine.
Once you get over looking for things that are in different locations.Takes a bit of time to learn it.
So if you are going to get Vista get 2 Gig Min of ram. But we all know that now.
It has only locked up on web pages about 2 times in 3 months where I had to do a reboot.
If I had an XP box, I would never upgrade.
No reason that is worthy of an upgrade.
If It’s not broke, don’t fix it.
You know, I could understand that pic a lot better if it was their MIDDLE fingers they were holding up!
AC