It happened about 7:15 p.m. Saturday at Cross Creek Apartments on Manotak Avenue. Police arrived to find the 54-year-old suspect standing next to the victim. The suspect had a gun in his waistband but kept his hands up for police. Several witnesses told police the man followed David A. Mitchell into the courtyard from the pool telling him to pull his pants up. The two began to argue, and the younger man pushed the suspect before being shot in the stomach, according to the arrest report. Mitchell, who was released from the hospital the same day, told the Times-Union Monday that the bullet is still in his side but the doctors say he’ll be fine. He said he had never seen the man and knew his shorts were sagging. He said he pulled them up, but the man said it wasn’t enough and just kept coming. So he pushed him off and tried to walk away.

John C. Constantin , who lives at the Westside apartments, was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. According to the arrest report, he told police it was self-defense after he was assaulted for telling Mitchell to pull his pants up. Family reached at his home Monday offered their apologies and said Constantin was remorseful for what happened. He remains in jail on $100,000 bail.

As much as you might want to, you can’t shoot someone for being a moran.




  1. dodgema says:

    Even some morons can spell “moron.”

  2. KagatoAMV says:

    “As much as you might want to, you can’t shoot someone for being a moran.”

    Well, you can, its just illegal.

  3. Ah_Yea says:

    We would be doing an enormous public service if we did!

  4. Dauragon says:

    LOL

    Good god. At least when old white people shoot young black people out here it’s because they “had a weapon” (usually a wallet or a banana or something).

    I guess when my pants are a bit saggy I have to watch out for cranky old white men WITHOUT badges now.

  5. Improbus says:

    @dodgema

    You are new here aren’t you? He used “moran” for a reason.

  6. bobbo says:

    Constantin looks like a low level mafioso enforcement thug to me. Mafia has been pissed-off at the blacks for their competition in the drug business.

    Fashion is always used to cover up something ugly.

  7. john says:

    Whenever I am in line with someone whose pants are falling down, I always nudge them and say (discreetly), “Hey guy, your pants are falling down.”

    They sometimes become irate…so far I have refrained from shooting anyone…

  8. chuck says:

    His shorts were sagging, so the guy shot him. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

    The other day a guy bumped into me on the corner.
    So I shot him in the face.

    I think I may have been playing GTA IV too long.

  9. Les says:

    It reads as if the request to pull up the pants was the first step in a journey of 1000 miles.

    None the less, if the grumpy old man initiated the confilct, he has no right to shoot during the escaltion unless he made a significant effort to leave the conflict.

  10. eyeofthetiger says:

    Now the guy will never wear a t-shirt. I suppose if you don’t want someone to wear their pants around their ankle you would have to shoot in the spine. Anyway, there is thousand of ridiculous reasons people rationalize for violence every year. Last year a 15 yr old kid was shot and killed because he didn’t return his neighbors lawnmower in time. The kid was mowing his moms lawn for mothers day. Sagging pants is from the imprisoned culture. It is from the 70’s when an inmate was easy. I’ve never really figured out what it means on the streets. My opinion is that it is a symbolic fashion statement of failure.

  11. hhopper says:

    Cripes! I never knew the fashion police were armed! I’d better take more care with my attire.

  12. Mister Ketchup says:

    I just use a paintball gun.

  13. jeroen says:

    N.R.A. == A.O.K.
    now if saggy-pants would have a gun this would have never happened. everybody should carry a gun for a better world! even morans.

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  15. Crankypants says:

    Moran (Irish: Ó Móráin) is a modern Irish surname and derived from member ship of a medieval dynastic sept.

    #4- What makes you think the kid was black?

  16. Dave Koss says:

    You wanna know something funny? I shot and edited a rap video for the guy in this picture years ago. Small world.

  17. Brock says:

    No doubt in self defense. You can’t be too careful in controlling those one eyed trouser snakes.

    Old guy = dangerous nut job
    Young guy = Idiot nut job

    By 18, you should be able to pull your pants up without assistance

  18. Ascii King says:

    I wonder if any of you crotchety old bastards remember being told that your pants were too damn tight when you were younger. Nothing has changed in the world. Older people are still offended by what the younger generation is doing. The younger generation still doesn’t have any respect for the older generation.

    The only difference is that now it’s us who are the older generation. Now that we are no longer the young generation, we forget what it was like.

    You can’t shoot a kid even if he’s walking around naked.


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