GLADSTONE, Oregon: A 16-year-old boy who, along with his parents, believed in faith healing has died as a result of an inflammation in his urinary system that is treatable.
The boy, identified by authorities as Neil Beagley, was suffering from an inflammation in a tube leading from his bladder – the urethra – that made him unable to urinate, according to Dr. Clifford Nelson, a deputy state medical examiner.
Beagley filled up with urine, and that eventually ruined his bladder and kidneys and resulted in heart failure, said Nelson, who called it “an absolutely horrible way to die.”
Police said relatives and church members told them the teenager refused treatment for the illness, as he was entitled to do under Oregon law. State law allows minors 14 and older to make such decisions.
Ain’t nothing like being One of the Chosen.
Thanks, K B
Praise Jeebus!
Someone sign this boy up for a Darwin Award.
I am a Christian, and a believer in faith, but when you can’t pee… Go see a doctor. People like that are why I have to defend my faith so much.
God loved this kid so much, He refused to heal him so that He could hang out with him in Heaven.
Obviously.
Best to exhaust all medical options before resorting to faith healing. I don’t think that the heavens care to take the healer’s job away any more than they care for a child to die of a bladder infection.
I guess one of those nuts couldn’t slap him in the head and knock him backwards, that always seems to work.
If a boy can choose not to see treatment for something that will ultimately kill him, why can’t I be allowed to choose to have a doctor inject me with a lethal substance to kill myself?
Oh boy! Another let’s bash Christians thread! I notice that “dvorak.org/blog” seldom posts anything positive about people of faith. Just that we’re wackjobs who want to kill our children and other drivel like that.
Welcome to Dvorak.org/Blog, where Christians aren’t really welcome!
[Nonesense… everyone’s welcome. – ed.]
Bet that state law doesn’t allow him to make the decision that he’d like to get laid..or smoke a cigarette, or have a beer. Nope..that would be immoral and wrong… What’s the argument I hear? That their minds aren’t “developed” enough yet to make possible life changing decisions? Developed enough though to decide that doctors are useless and Jesus knows all and will protect him..that’s ok….
#9–Matt==of course Christians are welcomed here. Welcome!! Did you have any problems posting your comments?–No?
So tell us, what should a strong belief in god tell us about this situation from your perspective? Please reference the bible as appropriate and make the distinction for us of how we should know when self help and scientific reality should not be our guide?
“Ain’t nothing like being One of the Chosen.”
Wow. Just a mean comment. 16-year old kid dies, and this blogger thinks it’s a joke. You aren’t funny, witty, or relevant. Your comment brought nothing to the table, except to show yourself as a sarcastic jackass.
Religion Kills.
Ignorance kills even more, so it must be a miracle so many of you guys around here are still alive 😛
This reminds me of an old story.
A long time ago there was a great big storm that caused a massive flood. One man retreated to the top of his roof to get away from the rising water. He got down on his knees and prayed for god to save him.
A few hours later two people in a small boat paddled by his house.
“hey man! come get in our boat we can take you out of here with us!” the boaters said.
“no go ahead I’m waiting for God to save me” said the man
So they paddled away, as the rain fell, the water rose and the man continued praying.
A few hours later a man on a small makeshift raft floated past the house.
“hop on my raft! I’ll get you out of here” he said
“no no no you go ahead, God is gonna save me” said the man now waist deep in water.
So the raft floated away, the rain fell, the water rose, and the man kept praying.
Several hours later a helicopter flew overhead pointing its lights towards the man on his roof. The water was now up to his neck.
“SIR! GRAB ONTO THE ROPE, WE’LL PULL YOU UP!” the pilot shouted through his speakers.
“No go on! I’m waiting on God, he’s gonna save me!”
So the helicopter flew away, the rain fell, the water rose, and the man drowned.
When the man arrived in heaven, he asked God “God, why didn’t you help me back there!”
“I did! first I sent the people in the small boat, then I sent the man on the raft, and then I sent the helicopter!” replied God.
Sometimes you have to pull your own weight.
Thinning of the gene pool…..’nough said! One less turbochristian to worry about.
#12, mildew,
It’s called “accepting the consequences of your decisions”. And he accepted the consequences of refusing to seek medical help when he was ill. So either he was stupid for not seeking the treatment or he was stupid for listening to other who suggested he try alternative treatment. Either way, instead of a medical treatment, he chose prayer. Guess what didn’t work?
I don’t accord the same level of grief to those who purposely kill themselves out of stupidity. That includes those that blow themselves up cooking meth, get drunk and proceed to wrap their car around a tree, mix various drugs and alcohol or fail to seek medical treatment. The planet is better off without their sorry asses.
It is truly heart breaking when a young life has been ended by any means and especially one so silly as this.
I once had a case of prostatitis which has similar symptoms making it impossible to void the bladder and potentially damaging the bladder and kidneys. It took only a few hours before the antibiotics kicked and the extreme discomfort was gone. A few more days and I was fine.
I am not a Christian but I cannot blame Christianity for this. His parents were foolish for letting this happen.
Too bad it wasn’t a deficiency of pooping. I could have said he died because he was full of $#!T
#9 – It’s because there is very little positive to say about people of faith. If the majority weren’t such flaming assholes…
Seems to me that this is neglegent homicide and that ALL the people that were praying at the bedside are GUILTY. It was an underage kid, so it was his parent’s decision to let him die.
Funny how the late Pope J-P2 did not have as much faith in god to save him as this kid and sought medical treatment.
#19, alf,
It is truly heart breaking when a young life has been ended by any means and especially one so silly as this.
Maybe for you and other fools. I’ll save my grief for those deserve it.
#21 – J. Jew
>>It’s because there is very little positive to
>>say about people of faith. If the majority
>>weren’t such flaming assholes…
If you moved out of Mom’s basement and actually met people of faith in real life (instead of getting all your ideas from dvorak dot org slash blog), you wouldn’t say that.
How many people of faith are there in the world? How many end up as fruitcakes in a debacle like this? What’s that, 0.0000000001%?
#25 – Mustard, you need to get out of your double-wide once in awhile and pay attention. How many of these flaming assholes end up on television in mega-churches begging for money? I don’t need anyone harping on me about their imaginary friend. Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard and who knows how many other whack jobs that used religion to bilk money and lead people down the tubes. Makes you wonder why the hell your unlikely percentage are so visible and so stupid. I guess it’s just the faith. Wouldn’t you think their imaginary friend could do a little more for the believers than showing up on toast and french fries?
Matt Garrett said “Welcome to Dvorak.org/Blog, where Christians aren’t really welcome!”
Repeat comment, no points.
How about, this is pathetically sad and why didn’t any Christian leader step in to persuade this kid and his parents that there is a better option?
#26 J. Jew
>>Mustard, you need to get out of your double-wide
>>once in awhile and pay attention.
Woo! Snappy comeback! I’m glad to see that you’re so well acquainted with the various trailer models. Are you jealous, because you only have a single-wide? Or a room in a welfare motel? HAW!
In any case, if you are trying to claim that the incidence of flakes in the Christian population is any greater than the Atheist adherents or the general population, I suggest you pony up some stats.
Otherwise, tail between legs, slink off, and STFU.
#28–Hey Mustard==who else but people of faith give their hard earned money to other people in order to be raptured during the end times? No atheist does that. TEST–will you accept this limited example or demand a link?
#28-Mister Mustard,
There is a positive correlation between atheism and intelligence. If you are looking for statistics I recommend the Cambridge Companion to Atheism (again). Have you been to your local public library yet? It is hardly fair to ask for stats, when the only reason you don’t have them is that you haven’t looked up the ones recommended to you the last time you wanted stats.
#30–Noel==how can we beat up on Mr Mustard when you post such stupidity? If YOU want to advance the idea that atheism is positively correlated to intelligence then YOU have the obligation to provide the link==not a reference and instructions to look it up.
My statement is repeated many times on the web/blog etiquette sites. Look it up.
Just once I would like to see faith healing fix something really difficult, like growing back a limb.
Suppose I am a deep believer in faith healing, and those around me are also deep believers in faith healing. Then I have an accident with a chainsaw, and my hand gets chopped off in a really gory, bloody way. Faith healing should be able to make me grow a whole new hand, and be healed miraculously from my accident… shouldn’t it?