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I would be interested in seeing this map with taxes removed. Just interested in how the actual gas price varies by region.
< $3.68 = green?
Entire map should be red
#1
Average USA taxes, state and Fed, tend to be around $0.70, unless there are City and county tax.
#2..
Think about the map for a second..
2 things come to mind.
FARMERS get cheaper gas
Manufacturing plants for cracking gas.
The BLUE states are all RED
If you zoom in enough, it gives you actual prices at stations, and it doesn’t always seem to match up with the colors… Odd.
A tale of woe, foolishness in the oil,automotive and government taxation industries
It was apparent in the early 70’s that we were sitting ducks
Opec not only increased prices to the hilt but hated us intensely
If you to to purchase a product at a store and they gouge you – and on top of that hate and malinger you do you go back for more ?
Its no accident that the highest percentage of the attackers in 9/11 were from a rich oil producing country
Our friends ? Don’t think so
Instead of less dependence – we got more
Larger cars , SUVs etc etc
On top of that we have a government taxation monolith that is like a drug addict in that high
gas prices lead to greater tax takes for them to
add to their budget spends
It never ends
Soon I will not even have to insure my vehicle as I will never be able to afford the gas to drive far.
#6 There is so much sarcasm in your comment it’s as if you don’t want to be around when Armageddon arrives.
#6 – is that some sort of weird sonnet? or concatenated haiku? if not, your formatting needs work! Sheesh!
Coast-to-Coast GOUGING BY THE OIL CARTEL !!!
This says it all: http://tinyurl.com/49v9wf
Where is AK and HI?
gaspricewatch.com
#3, small correction. Farmers do not get cheaper gas. They are able to purchase fuel for non-highway use machines like tractors and combines and that fuel is about 50-60 cents less because highway use taxes are not charged. Most farm machines use diesel and there is a red dye added to the non-taxed fuel. It is a violation of federal law to use tax exempt fuel in any vehicle which is intended for road use and the fines start out at around $1000 – $1500 for a first time violation. After that, you’re looking at jail time. Law enforcement routinely check farm trucks at events such as farm shows and auctions or during traffic citations. They can detect traces of the dye up to six months after use. Contractors who use red fuel in dozers, backhoes, etc. are also routinely targeted by law enforcemnt for fuel violations (they can also purchase tax-exempt fuel since these machines are not for road use). They also give $100 rewards in some areas for reporting fuel violations.
Technically, since lawn mower or generator fuel is not for road use, one should be able to purchase tax-exempt fuel for them.
As much as the fuel taxes suck, that is what pays for our roads. Now if those funds could just be used more efficiently.
>>I’d reverse the colors. Higher prices are better.
I’m going to have to agree with you again, Scottie. They were saying on CNBC this morning that gas prices may easily reach $10 – $15 per gallon. W00t! Bring it on!
Every new slumburb and cul-de-sac that goes up, we’re getting closer to where we can say “the terrorists have won”.
Hoosiers like OFTLO may suffer in the short term (although I seem to recall there being mass transit INSIDE the city of Indianapolis, but perhaps that’s just a euphemism for some cornfield town in East Bumfuck, 50 miles from the city), but in the long run, it’s the only way to wean us from the Saudi tit.
And so many other collateral benefits to boot.
If I were a conspiracy guy, I’d say that prices were being manipulated so as not to alienate the conservative vote.
>>I’d reverse the colors. Higher prices are better.
WTF?
In 100 years, nobody will be using fossil fuels. Something better will come along and we will changes. OPEC should enjoy it while they can, because when that day comes they will have nothing but sand.
In the mean time, why do you take pleasure in high fuel (read transportation, heating, and every product at the grocery store which needs to be shipped) costs? Is hurting the economy a good thing? Do you thing a weak economy will be better able to develop and find this new energy source?
I think there is more to the tax thing than it simply averaging 70 cents. Look at the boarder between Calif. and Oregon. And look at New Jersey and the states all around it.
Heck, I live in West Los Angeles, and yesterday had reason to go to Orange County. Prices there are about 5-10 cents less than here. Part of that is a half cent (I think) reduction in sales tax, which at $4 a gallon accounts for 2 cents right there.
Why is Illinois so high when Missouri, just across the river is among the lowest?
But I agree with Scott. In the long run, higher prices at the pump are good medicine for what ails us.
“The BLUE states are all RED”
As usual, the blue states are subsidizing everybody else…
The affluent states are all red. First rule of marketing, price as much as the market can stand.
#18 – Les,
First, we are already paying over $15/gal. I want to see it at the pump rather than in my income tax bill.
Second, people will not spend more for gasoline because of higher prices long term. Instead, people will drive more fuel efficient or better yet, electric vehicles.
I support higher prices because I want our species and many that I find more beautiful than our own to survive.
This will not happen if we continue burning oil and coal and even natural gas, which is by far the best of the three.
If we do not address climate change, we will die.
It really is that simple. Climate change, though obviously not human caused, was the cause of the largest mass extinction this planet has ever seen, the P/T extinction 250 million years ago.
For anyone who doubts the real and immediate threat of climate change, please read Under A Green Sky. Peter D. Ward is the scientist who proved the Alvarez impact hypothesis for the K/T extinction. In this book, he presents abundant evidence that the cause of the P/T extinction was global warming. And, he details the process by which we may be causing the same events to happen again.
We will not survive on a planet with toxic levels of hydrogen sulfide gas in the atmosphere. And, that is where we may be headed.
>>First, we are already paying over $15/gal. I want to see it at the pump rather than in my income tax bill.
I would like to see some proof of this. If I am paying $11 per gallon in my income taxes, I did not pay enough, and none of my taxes went to anything else.
Also, if there were any commercial electric cars, where do you think that electricity comes from? Consider the inefficiency of the electrical distribution network. Unless we want to endorse nuclear in a big way, you are just moving the pollution, not helping it.
It is up to you to decide that a family of 8 should have to drive two priuses instead of a van?
I agree that we need to work for the environment, although when I look at the evidence I don’t see man as the cause of “climate change”.
You goal to destroy the economy will not fix the problem, oh I forgot, your a liberal.
Just some quick math Scott.
The USA collects 1.25 trillion dollars of individual income tax every year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget,_2008
The USA consumes 136 trillion gallons of gas every year.
http://ask.yahoo.com/20040507.html
If the entirety of our taxes was used to keep down the cost of gasoline, it would be reducing the cost by 1 cent per gallon.
I am not buying your $15 a gallon supported by taxes BS.
>>Something better will come along and we
>>will changes.
And what do you imagine will be the catalyst for discovering that “something better”?
As long as Dick Cheney’s buddies are laughing all the way to the bank about $135/barrel oil, NOTHING is going to come along.
If the Humper drivers and all the other skanks start having to pay $100+ to fill up their tanks, there’s going to be some grumbling in the McMansions, and that will trickle down to even the staunchest right-wing pols looking to facilitate “something better” coming along.
My bad math, the gas usage is 136 billion. That would set the maximum gas subsidy at $9.13 per gallon (close to $15 per gallon), that would require that the government spend none of our taxes on anything except for keeping the price of gas low? Anyone buy that one?
That catalyst is called profit. Thats how a capitalist society works. If you kill the economy to where no one can afford to get an advanced degree, to where there is no money available for research, then the discovery will not happen.
I just spent $85 to fill up my mini van. It’s a sad day when you have to start looking at giving up health care, just so you can get to work.
When OPEC can produce crude for about $2.00 per barrel, and sell it to us for $130.00, why do you blame Cheney and co?
>>It’s a sad day when you have to start looking
>>at giving up health care, just so you can get
>>to work.
I agree. It’s almost enough to make you wish that the government was spending some of that money on universal health care, instead of lining the pockets of the oil cabal.
>>Anyone buy that one?
I do. It’s not a dollar-for-dollar subsidy at the point of sale (the gas pump). It’s subsidizing the entire cancerous process right from the get-go, which is much more economically feasible (for the government).
Oh and finally, the BEST thing we could do is what we did in 1974. Lower the speed limit back to 55. This would produce an average 25% reduction in fuel used, with no change to the fleet.
Would it suck, oh yes it would!
Would it be a “free” way to drastically cut back on oil usage, YES!
>>I do. It’s not a dollar-for-dollar subsidy at the point of sale (the gas pump). It’s subsidizing the entire cancerous process right from the get-go
You are still assuming that all of individual tax receipts (about 1/2 of total revenue) is going to subsidizing oil prices. You can plainly see that more than that goes to Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment and such. There just isn’t that much money. The prime factor is the price of crude, which the US government does not control. In a manner they do control it, by preventing drilling offshore and in ANWAR. If we were producing more of our own oil, supply would increase, and price would drop.
The Chinese are drilling 50 miles from the US coast, but we are not allowed to.
>>That would produce an average 25% reduction
>>in fuel used
Where the fuck did you come up with that figure??? Everything I’ve read puts the “savings” at FAR less than that, and some cars actually get WORSE gas mileage at 55 than 65 (eg “There were complaints when the speed limit was lowered from 65 mph to 55 mph that it could lower, instead of increase fuel economy, and in fact the 1997 Toyota Celica gets 1 mpg better mileage at 65 than it does at 55 (43.5 vs 42.5)” from Wiki-whatever).