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It is thought he had been arrested earlier in the day over another stabbing. A 45-year-old railway worker was treated in hospital for a stab wound to his arm after challenging a man for trespassing at Leeds station on Sunday morning, British Transport Police said.
Mrs Regan set up a Leeds branch of Mothers Against Guns after her son Danny, 25, was shot at his home in Haydock, near St Helens, Merseyside in December 2002. His killer has not been found. She had met government officials to discuss how to tackle the problems of guns and gang-related crime. Dee Edwards, co-founder of campaign group Mothers Against Murder and Manslaughter, said Mrs Regan would visit schools and give talks about the dangers and consequences of getting involved in crime. She said: “She made such a big difference to so many people’s lives. This is an absolute tragedy for so many people.” Mrs Edwards said she had known Mrs Regan for about six years and described her as the “most incredible woman”.
“It’s just the most dreadful news for everyone. She’s just an amazing woman,” she added.
I have noticed in the British press lately quite a few murders by stabbing, as well as a proposal for a ban on kitchen knives.
#57 – Wanker – Its called Martial Law, it happened in New Orleans, Give the Neocons a chance, it will probably happen again…but oh no, the governement would never do such a thing.
If you considered that wrong… Where were you? Why didn’t you intervene? After all, you had your guns…
#60–Mustard==my typing is atrocious. My key board does stick but that doesn’t explain leaving out entire words and misplacing others. So, indeed, we all can do better?
Sporks can be a weapon too. I scratched my hand once trying to get one out of the plastic wrapper at KFC. Ban all sporks! And KFC too?
>>So, indeed, we all can do better?
I’m not sure “all of us” need to do better.
What YOU can do is to either go to Staples/ Office Depot/ Best Buy and get a new keyboard, or get a good night’s sleep.
Until then, you’re piped to dev null.
#63;
Nice straw man argument.
How many times are sporks used in murders or suicides?
#65–Nate==actually #63 is an example of “reductio ad absurdum.” It can be effective and legitimate when a more proximate logical argument does not dispatch the position.
You did that with your response, so more need not be said.
“we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.”
Talking about militias, or instruments?
2.5 million defensive gun uses a year, many studies I can produce for you.
On your side, about 30000 gun deaths a year, half of which are suicides. I still question your “accidental use”. That is an oxymoron
#67 – Les
Yeah, right… and the US isn’t bad in an international perspective either… just surrounding itself with a bunch of third world countries.
Jag==I wanted to compliment you at post #61 but wanted to give Wanker time to respond on his own. I guess he like Les remains self deluded on the protection of their guns?
Instead, now I can compliment you on #68 as well. To be fair, multi-factorial medium strength correlations are difficult for people with strong opinions to deal with. It can be done, but “evidence and analysis” have to be your guide rather than reference to authority as with the constitution?
Keep the good stuff coming.
#69 – bobbo
Thanks. And same to you. I enjoy your posts as well.
If they really think that the government wanted them to have the chance of protecting themselves against a corrupt government, then each citizen should perhaps have had a fully functional missile silo at their disposal.
Read the lyrics to Lard’s “Peeling back the foreskin of liberty”… It’s all about paranoid right-wing nutters.
@67 “On your side, about 30000 gun deaths a year, half of which are suicides.”
I never knew that. You hear the word “gun deaths” and the statistic was always mind-blowing.
I did some quick checking, and sure enough about half of these “gun deaths” are suicides.
Guns certainly make suicide a lot easier, but the suicide rate is rather average and is lower than, say, Japan and France and of course far lower than much of Europe.
I find it disingenuous that suicides have always been included in the “gun violence” numbers you hear in the media.
I had no idea they were “juicing” the numbers. I find this rather upsetting, really.
#69. Compliment on 61, for what?
“If you considered that wrong… Where were you? Why didn’t you intervene? After all, you had your guns…”
Really? Thats the best you can do? The government “illegally” confiscates firearms from people who want nothing more than to protect their own property, and you defend that? Fucking hypocrites who complain daily about loss of freedoms, but it seems only the ones YOU care about.
#72 – Wanker
Why didn’t YOU get down there to protect them from the corrupt government?
Your argument is yellow bullshit, not even worthy of a response. There is a time and place for everything. Dont be fuckin idiot, you can do better than that.
A question for you and bobbo, was the confiscation of weapons in New Orleans legal or not. If you answer the question truthfully, then ask yourself why you support illegal actions by the govt. You dont get to pick and choose what laws need to be enforced. If you Dont like the laws then try to have them changed, but until that day, the government cannot just do whatever the fuck it wants.
#75–Wanker–imagine for yourself the best most justifiable time, place, and circumstance for you to take out your weapons to defend yourself against the USA?
#75 – Wanker
Why did they hand over their guns? Why didn’t they fight the government? Or perhaps they realized that it was under the circumstances the best thing to do?
#76. Nope, I asked you a question, until I get an answer you get bupkus.
#77. Same goes for you, was it legal or not. If not, why do you support illegal activity by the govt.
#79 – Wanker
It was the right thing to do under the circumstances.
#80. No it wasnt the right thing, it was the SAFE thing to do under the circumstances, for the GOVT and the man trying to defend his own life/ property. But was it leagal or illegal, and if it was illegal why would you support it?
Now, extreme example, but ask one of the holocaust survivors if he just had that one chance…..
Wanker–Your question was not up when I posted==so fair enough for you to get your answer first.
#75–Is confiscation of guns during disaster relief legal or not? /// I don’t know. I agree if I had a gun, THAT situation would be the very time I would want one==absent overwhelming police presence to provide safety? Does legality make any difference? Do my feelings make any difference? Probably not. Thats the excruciating thing about statistics. Sometimes the truth hurts. Take suicide out of whatever numbers you use, and including Katrina and all other disasters, man made and otherwise, you are safer anywhere but in the USA from gun violence.
If the confiscation was illegal, then I don’t support it–again, the statistics year after year show you and I are more likely to be killed by a weapon than be kept safe by one.
Now your answer?
#81 – Wanker
Did any of the gun owners who got their weapons taken away get killed? As for the legality… I’m sure you can answer that one.
… ask one of the holocaust survivors if he just had that one chance….
So, we all should have guns, just in case… Well, that would even out the world statistics on gun related murders.
#82. My answer is complicated. The Holocaust question albeit extreme is definitely at the top of my list, however, more realistically not everyone lives in Peoria, Ill. Some people in this very country live in places where crazy MF’s will crawl into your bedroom window in the middle of the night to satisfy his govt sponsored drug habit. I have lived in these situations, not by choice, and I dont need people who live in a gated communities telling me how I should behave.
#83. “Did any of the gun owners who got their weapons taken away get killed? As for the legality… I’m sure you can answer that one.”
What is your point, illegal or not? bobbo doesnt support illegal govt activity, why do you? What other illegal govt. acitivity do you condone / support?
Forget it, you history…..
#84 – Wanker – Some people in this very country live in places where crazy MF’s will crawl into your bedroom window in the middle of the night to satisfy his govt sponsored drug habit.
And guns are the solution to all social problems… well, it sure seem to work…
Is your solution that everyone in the society/world should have the right to carry guns? Even five-year-old Bob?
#85 – Wanker
I’ve already told you my answer. I think it was the right thing to do under the circumstances… legal or not. And you seem to have a hard time answering my questions…
#87.Last time buddy, legal or illegal? Not the right thing at the moment, did the govt have the legal right to take away the only thing between you and thugs that may loot and kill you….you seem to be avoiding the obvious black and white question…
Its, simple was it legal, if not why do you support illegal activities by the govt? bobbo had the balls to respond honestly, I assume you dont. Now i have better things to do than this.
#88 – Wanker
Are you slow?
Q: Was it a legal action?
A: It was the right thing to do…
That was not the question. You have never answered it. And I dont think YOUR slow. I think, and I am reading into this that you arent really convinced that it was OK for law-abiding citizens to have their property taken away at gunpoint so as not to be able to defend themselves after a major disaster. People who had every right to protect their homes, businesses, pets, themselves. It was an illegal act, and if you want to condone it, then I know where you stand. Sorry, but its late, I have to work, and I cant debate this all night.