TAMPA — Next year, a giant Confederate flag may tower above the tree line near the junction of Interstate 75 and Interstate 4. The Sons of Confederate Veterans wants drivers in the Tampa area to see the massive flag — 30 feet high and 50 feet long — atop a 139-foot pole, the highest the Federal Aviation Authority would allow. It would be lit at night. With the pole already in the ground and building permits in hand, the group is on its way to having what it calls the “world’s largest” Confederate flag in place by mid 2009. The group just needs about $30,000 more, said Douglas Dawson, a division commander. Several nearby business owners don’t mind. It’s history, they say, and it’s on private property.
The county has wrestled with sensitive Confederate issues in the past. In 1994, the Confederate flag was removed from the county seal. Last year, county commissioners recognized Confederate commander Robert E. Lee on the same day they honored a black civic leader. Commissioners later apologized and haven’t since recognized Lee. Flags Across Florida started about eight years ago, after the Confederate flag was removed from the Capitol in Tallahassee. So far the group has two major flags erected: one in Suwannee County along Interstate 75 and one in Havana along U.S. 27.
Adams insists the flag isn’t about racism or slavery. “It’s about honoring our ancestors and about celebrating our heritage,” he said. “It’s a historical thing to us.”
Damn, where’s the Homeowners Association when you need them?
Amathaon==there you go again. Being (almost) totally reasonable.
Sometimes when we are put on a point, we see the error of our ways, but when the situation is more fuzzy, the old comfortable ways of thinking return. Its hard to be “the best person you can be.” Much easier to lazily be the person you have become.
Very subtle. I was about to “go off” on the most relevant fact of the status of being a slave period==but you beat me to it. Well Done. You just need to incorporate that morality a bit more as you review your posting points once again.
There is a huge difference in having an “attitude”/belief versus raising a flag to it. While I’m not proud of anything except my own personal accomplishments, I can “see” being proud (in some way) about things I had nothing to do with, but I can’t see standing around raising flags to it. But such ceremony, as opposed to the underlying appreciations in life, introduce many other different issues.
Live and learn. For grins, I’ll keep this booknote for awhile in case either of us, or someone else, can identify a new take on the issue?
How we form our values, grow and change, become better people over time, is just about the most productive thing we can spend out spare time thinking about.
Ok, rational mode off. Time to return to flaming troll.
Having grown listening to the lies of the united states about the CSA, we are still here and we are not going away because some racists want to destroy our heritage. We will fight harder against racists like you.
“Lady”===yes quite a few lies. Both Lincoln and Grant (as was General Lee) were uniquely admirable in thinking their enemies where not eternal and that the peace should be honorable and not seek retribution as was/is the norm in history.
Too bad Lee’s children let him down.
This is the only country in the world where a defeated government can still fly its flag. Speaks well for our freedom of speech, but not much about our acceptance of reality and understanding of history.
The Confederates fought for states rights – the right to keep slaves. Period. Any other issue between the states could have been settled without a war. Even after the war, the south continued to be a bunch of murderous shitheels.
http://withoutsanctuary.org/main.html
Nearly 5,000 people, mostly black males, are documented as having been lynched between 1880 and 1960.
So there may be some minor historical value to the confederate flag, it has as much value in this society as their money. IMNSHO, confederate apologists and those who pine for those days are full of shit.
You northern mother fuckers are dumber than shit. Incase yall didnt know good ‘ole Abraham Lincoln owned his own damn slaves. The Leader of the Union. If the leader of the previous Utopian society owned slaves then I highly doubt the Civil War was because of slavery. The slaves were treated much better in the south than they were in the north. But again there were slaves there too. And the industrialized north needed the slaves. The slaves / plantations provided the north with their cotton and other materials needed to manufacture shit.But now we have a nigger president so the white people have to pick the cotton. Great job northern bitches.
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and YOU DONT LIKE good hard work?? AND PAY of NOTHING??
ur fokn rasist son of a!!!! bitches!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright people I’m tired of hearing all this bitching about the Rebel Flag being a sign of slavery and shit like that. I’m hear to say that the youth of the South wear Rebel Flags because it REPRESENTS THE SOUTH!!! Nothing more nothing less so just get over your own selfish bull shit racist viewing ways and catch up with the rest of the fucking world. This is one thing that pisses me off is when people talk bad about stuff they don’t know a damn thing about and its happening alot now days.
Natefrog , you are one of the most uneducated folks i have ever laughed at. You butcher the English language while claiming to know history, it’s just incredible. Libtards like you are the useful idiots of today