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“I’m grateful for his commitment to the support of the state of Israel, and I’m very grateful for many of his commitments around the world, including to the independence and freedom of the state of Israel,” he told CNN’s Campbell Brown on April 29. Hagee’s commitment to Israel, however, is itself controversial: It’s rooted in the belief that the Jewish state will — soon — be the site of Armageddon.
Hagee, who leads the evangelical group Christians United for Israel, is a proponent of U.S. aid and support for Israel, and he is a major ally of Israeli conservatives who reject any “land for peace” formula in dealing with the Palestinians. But Hagee is viewed with distrust by some Jews and Israelis because his brand of Christian Zionism closely links support for Israel to the end of the world and the conversion of the Jews to Christianity.
Hagee’s predictions are very clear. Armageddon, the final battle, could begin, he wrote in his 2007 book “Jerusalem Countdown,” “before this book gets published.” The Antichrist “will be the head of the European Union,” he writes. Using geographical calculations based on the Book of Revelation, he writes that Israel will be covered in “a sea of human blood” in the final battle. The Jews, however, will survive the battle, Hagee says, long enough to have “the opportunity to receive Messiah, who is a rabbi known to the world as Jesus of Nazareth.” “They will be blessed beyond their wildest imagination,” he writes.
A spokesman for McCain, Brian Rogers, said, “John McCain’s commitment to the state of Israel is clear, and he respects Pastor Hagee’s commitment as well. “As he has said many, many, many times, when folks endorse John McCain it doesn’t mean he endorses all of their views,” Rogers said. Many Jewish political leaders have also embraced Hagee. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) spoke to Hagee’s group last year, and Hagee has been invited to speak to the lobbying organization American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
Yes, the same guy who blamed Hurricane Katrina on homosexuals. McCain sought his support, got it and almost immediately started backpedaling.
Freedom for Israel
WTF does that mean, freedom to fuck up the Palestinian people up even more?
Armageddon comes on 01/20/2009.
Give it up. Rev. Jeremiah Wright is an open sore on Obama’s aspirations and nothing is going to change that.
Get your own gift.
RBG
Motaman, I think he means freedom to exist without the threat of bombing and other attacks from every country (pretty much) in the area who finds Israel’s existence as detestinle as crap on the sidewalk.
Nobody’s going to say that Israel’s tactics are a picture of innocence but with every Islamic nation wanting to wipe the Jews off the map, I’d say that Israel needs to do more than sit at home and play Second Life while listening to Tech podcasts if it wants to see the next decade.
“Armageddon comes on 01/20/2009”
Not again………
“freedom to exist without the threat of bombing ”
Tell that to the King David Hotel.
I’m not even going to try to take sides in this mess. The Irgun stopped being terrorists because Israel became a state. It is not an Israeli or Palestinian exclusive. If Israel would became Palestine, Israelis would organize terrorists groups.
The League Of Nations messed up, big time.
Israel and USA , both have the highest number of WMDs and both are threat for the world peace. World would have been a much much better place if these two just didn’t existed.
Nobody seems to understand that the Zionists are and have been stealing and committing acts of genocide.
look into AIPAC, and how all our politicos are in their pocket.
watch occupation101 on http://video.google.com
Noam Chomsky is also a good search on google vid…
#4
If you steal something, expect that someone may be pissed off. According to the bible, God says they are entitle to Israel, and that the palestinians have to go or die… if this is actual and true, FUCK the bible and god too.
everyone says this is an ancient conflict, the state of Israel ONLY 60 Years old – not thousands or even hundreds of years.
#9.
Wow. Read up on the history of the Middle East and see if you can shed some of that ignorance.
#10
So are you saying that Zionists Jews and Zionist Christians along with AIPAC are not supporting the theft of Palestinian land and the slaughter and imprisonment of it’s people… TODAY RIGHT NOW?
Am i ignorant that all the politicians in the united states are AIPAC puppets?
The Israeli conflict is yet another example of the violence inherent in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion.
Read an old post of mine for a description of the way that differing sects of the same religion are driving one people apart.
One People Divided by Religion
Motaman,
An Israeli Jew and an Israeli Arab who were born the same month — both are now citizens of the state of Israel, both with the same legal rights, and both living in economic prosperity in Israel.
The fact of the matter is that the Arabs were not forced to leave the new state of Israel, and those who stayed were given full Israeli citizenship (now composing about one-third of the population) and have elected fellow Arabs to the Israeli Parliament.
Then compare two refugees — one of the Arabs who fled Israel and one of the 755,000 Jews who were forced out of 10 Arab countries after 1948 and the reestablishment of the state of Israel. The Jews who were forced out of their Arab countries arrived penniless in Israel and were granted citizenship. The Arabs who fled Israel at the urging of their Arab neighbors were denied citizenship by their Arab neighbors, and still live in refugee camps operated by the United Nations.
The Palestinian movement was not innocent during World War II, and was not punished for a merely European genocide.
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammed Amin al-Husseini, was not only a supporter of Hitler, but helped raise Arab SS units, which served in Bosnia, Turkey and even trained in various concentration camps.
Until his death, Yasser Arafat, the Mufti’s nephew, continued to hail this Nazi ally as a great hero and enemy of “the pigs” in interviews with Arab media.
When the British offered a two-state solution, effective at midnight on the night of their withdrawal, the Arab leaders refused the offer. While it might have been better to have a U.N. protectorate for several generations, it is wrong to think Israelis had nothing to fear of a Palestinian leadership that had been favored by Hitler as “fighting the same scourge.”
Israel is far from perfect, but to suggest the Palestinian leaders were innocent observers of World War II is misleading. To this day, too many Arab leaders consider calls for the destruction of Israel a valid way to deal with the terrible aftermath of that war.
It is ironic that leaders of non-democratic states and their supporters critique Israel, a nation that engages in a heated internal debate with an open media. Not to mention that Arab Israelis have served and continue to serve in the elected government. How many Jews serve in elected — never mind, there aren’t many free elections elsewhere in the region.
Motaman (#11),
Yes you are ignorant.
Christopher Wyatt, your points were well received here. All involved would benefit from a consultation from Nasrudin:
A judge in a village court had gone on vacation. Nasrudin was asked to be temporary judge for a day. Nasrudin sat on the Judge’s chair with a serious face, gazing around the public and ordered the first case be brought-up for hearing.
“You are right,” said Nasrudin after hearing one side.
“You are right,” he said after hearing the other side.
“But both cannot be right,” said a member of public sitting in the audience.
“You are right, too” said Nasrudin.
#16–Omar==your joke is not at all what Chris Wyatt posted.
In essence, Palestians are WRONG but have a case to make, while Israel is RIGHT but has continuing issues to deal with.
Your judge is simply a fool. Try again.
What it boils down to is McBush has actively allied himself to a wing nut. While Obama has not actively allied himself with his pastor and has denounced some of his preachings, he is pilloried by the right wing nuts for this.
Down the election stretch, McBush will have a lot more explaining to do.
Given the choice between Wright and Hagee, I’ll take Wright.
Fuck what happened 60 or 70 years ago. Try looking at recent history. Israel continues to persecute and murder Palestinians without consequences.
Mr. GA,
Yes, let’s ignore history. Ask President George W. Bush how ignoring early 20th Century British forays in the Middle East worked.
“Fuck what happened 60 or 70 years ago. Try looking at recent history. Israel continues to persecute and murder Palestinians without consequences.”
Oh Thank Gawd!
actually they’ve been oppressing and persecuting for about 60 years now. and their occupation is illegal by international law.
MotaMan, I’m impressed at how you can type so well with your butt cheeks. If you were surrounded by people who wanted to kill you, no matter what you did, what would you do? Just sit there and let them beat shit out of you or take every opportunity to survive.
As long as the Arab media keep portraying Israelis as child-eating children of Satan, there is no reason for Israel to put down its weapons.
So come on, here’s the scenario; ten men who loathe you are pointing guns at your head, and you kid’s head. What you gonna do? Since you have all the answers, I’m all ears.
I would get the fuck out of there
#22, rcopeh,
here’s the scenario; ten men who loathe you are pointing guns at your head, and you kid’s head. What you gonna do?
Sounds like the Israeli Army is visiting the West Bank again and they need to lose a few cartridges before going home.