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A teen accused of plotting to blow up his high school told police that he wanted to die, go to heaven and kill Jesus, federal authorities said Tuesday.
Ryan Schallenberger, 18, is cooperating with the bomb plot investigation, police say.
Prosecutors argued in a federal courtroom that the statements are an indication that 18-year-old Ryan Schallenberger needs a psychological evaluation.
The straight-A Chesterfield High School senior was arrested April 19 and faces several state and federal charges, including attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. That charge carries a possible life sentence if he is convicted.
He got straight A’s. Helluva guidance counselor.
Maybe the kid really only wanted to fuck Jesus up the ass with a rubber chicken.
Ryan always was a go getter !!
The flaw in your cunning plan. Let me show you it.
#23, Because you are making a claim that can not be verified.
#28, So you are saying that it is not true, but let’s pretend it is because it’s a good story? Horrible.
I understand where you meant, “does not”. However I think reading nearly any book will increase the power in one’s mind, science or otherwise.
And to Mr. Mustard, don’t take it so personal. This is the Internet and debating is what we do. If I met you in real life, I would shake you hand, give you a hug and insist that you let me buy you lunch (nothing over $10). lol
>>Because you are making a claim that can not
>>be verified.
So, don’t believe it. Can you “verify” the existence of quarks and black holes, or do you just take it on faith that those who claim to have ID’d them didn’t have a glitch in their electronics? Can you “verify” that your dual-core processor really has two cores? Or do you take it on faith that the marketing people are telling the truth.
As to the rest of your post, I don’t take it personally at all. Strictly internet, nothing personal. I’d go for the lunch, but it has to be sashimi (or something else for you available at the same restaurant, if you don’t like sashimi). When I go out for lunch, I like to eat sashimi. I’d be fine pleased to pay. You’re the only one who calls me by my honorific “Mister”. Even Scottie has downgraded me to “Mustard”.
#5, Mustard,
Nobody cares “how he was going to kill Jesus”.
Did you ask me if I care?
Besides, Jesus has already risen from the dead. You can’t just “kill” somebody like that.
Oh oh, I smell a slasher movie coming up.
#35 – Musty,
I go back and forth. Sometimes I still call you Mister. Mostly I do so before you make really inane comments on the thread.
Regarding #30,
I stated that there is obvious evidence of life in the universe. Therefore, there is a possibility that there is some elsewhere. I don’t know. I remain agnostic about life elsewhere. I hope that if it exists, it doesn’t find us. Results have been pretty bad on this planet (our only known instance of life thus far) whenever a more technologically advanced civilization has come in contact with one that is less so. If they can come here and we can’t go there, we’re not ready to meet them yet. They may be ready to meat us, but not vice versa.
More importantly though, the existence of life is a shred of evidence. It is a possibility that there may be more of it. I do not believe there is more. I do not know. I’ll wait for the data that I hope does not arrive before we’re really ready for it.
As for god, there is not a single shred of evidence. So, without a shred of evidence, I do not give the hypothesis any credence.
Does that make my view clear?
You’re welcome to do whatever you want. You will anyway. But, try this for a month.
Every time you want to refer to god, instead of the Holy Ghost, try Casper the Friendly Ghost. Use it in all situations with the same vehemence or lack thereof with which you assert the existence god. They both have equal evidence supporting them.
By the end of the month, I predict you will be determined to be non compus mentis.
Why do we treat god differently? Is it simply because there are more people that believe in the literal existence of god than casper? If so, we should all eat shit. A billion flies can’t all be wrong.
#36 – Gawd,
Oh oh, I smell a slasher movie coming up.
Cool idea!! Just imagine how many times one can kill a guy like that. Every three days, one can grind him up into hamburger and have him rise again. It would be just like Sylvester and Tweetie or the Coyote and Roadrunner.
#20, Mojo,
The pearly gates like totally have metal detectors on them now
You make it sound like Heaven is a gated community.
#9 – Ah, Scottie. You just KNOW you’re going to buuuurrrrnnnnn in a laaaaaaake of fiiiiiiiire. Right?
Well… If we spilled enough oil into a lake that it were flammable, lit it up, and actually threw Scott in… Then theoretically he could burn in a lake of fire.
Then he’ll be dead, and never exist again.
#15 – I’m not getting bogged down in this ridiculous flame war again.
Now that is wisdom.
#40 – OFTLO,
Thanks for reminding me why I blog anonymously. And yes, perfectly true. I hope that the meat that was once me will get back in the food chain though rather than contributing to global warming.
Hey Mustard==lets assume god does exist just in the way you think he does. Why do you care?
Why is god just not another “person” in the universe with incredible powers who can greatly affect your afterlife? So what?
Is your sense of life that you must do what your god commands, or to do what you think is good and right?
Slave or free will?
If slave, why not revolt?
If free will, why won’t god respect that?
#19 – You and I will never agree on this. Do you believe there’s life elsewhere in the universe? Some do, some don’t, some don’t know. Just like with religion. I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe, and the fence-sitters believe nothing. So what’s the bfd?
None.
No big fucking deal.
Until fundy zealots try to push theology through political infiltration into the schools. Until Bible Thumpers start voting for candidates because they want to prevent gays from getting civil rights. Until it becomes an all aout assault on the secular culture… which is an attack on all of us and an attempt to subvert our democracy and establish a theocracy.
Then we have a big fucking deal.
>>Then he’ll be dead, and never
>>exist again.
Oh no, we’re talking about Scottie here. He’s going to heaven. He’ll be born again, long before he dies. Mark my words.
>>Then we have a big fucking deal.
If I ever do any of the things you mention, OFTLO, make sure and tell me, won’t you?
>>Is your sense of life that you must do what your
>>god commands, or to do what you think is good
>>and right?
Uh,Boboli: My God does not “command” me to do things. Whaddya think, I’m a fucking Catholic? A Jew (ooooh noooooo, I hope that “J” guy isn’t reading this!). To the extent that he influences my behavior, it’s toward doing things that I think are good and right.
>>Why do you care?
Hey, who WOULDN’T care?? If you believed that there’s “another “person” in the universe with incredible powers who can greatly affect your afterlife?”, wouldn’t you care too?
#49–Thanks Mustard.
Of course you should “care” but that doesn’t answer what you should do?
So you know what I mean by “command” and you are dodging the question, just as you do with care?
Stop quibbling. Why not treat god like any other person, follow the golden rule. Treat god as you would wish to be treated? With respect but personally I’m not interested in having 3 billion people blindly follow me.
Makes me ask in a flash of insight, why doesn’t god start a blog and let us interact with him?
That’s why in fact and in theory, god just doesn’t make any sense. If god exists why can’t he just be my friend but basically leave me alone and let me spend my eternity the way I would choose to do so?
If he is going to take action to torture me in a lake of fire, then as I posted “HOw do you kill Jesus? I want to know” because tyrants like that should be eliminated now matter how much they love you===like that guy in austria surely loves his daughter–uh-huh.
People love other people when they offer friendship but allow others to be themselves. That’s what I believe.
Bobster, stop baiting the bull. I think I’ve posted enough in the past that you know what my answers to all those questions would be.
I choose to believe, you choose not to. That’s fine and dandy with me; I hope it’s fine and dandy with you.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU’RE READY TO BURRRRRNNNNNNN IN A GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING LAAAAAKE OF EVERLASTING FIIIIIIIIRE!!!!
Just kidding.
#52–Mustard, I’m not baiting you. I don’t think I’ve asked you this before, if I did, I need reminding.
I’m asking you because most religious types only parrot back bible nonsense. I’m hoping your intellect will provide a different insight.
The I believe/don’t believe horse is beaten constantly and I am actually tired of it. There are a few small issues left unanswered which you have refused to answer as you are now.
Even if asked before, this is a different tact.
I often hear that religion provides believers “comfort.” That makes no sense to me because I would not want to be subject to another persons will regardless of his intent. You strike me as this same kind of person–except for the religious thing.
So, please provide your response or at least be honest enough with us to admit you refuse to do so.
If god existed I would not follow him because I prefer my own autonomy over any other. I seek advice from all of good will but reserve final decisions for myself.
Why do you give up your autonomy?
#47 – Musty,
Oh no, we’re talking about Scottie here. He’s going to heaven. He’ll be born again, long before he dies. Mark my words.
If heaven is filled with born again wackos, that would be hell to me.
Besides, if I die and find out you’re right, I intend to do my best to get in one good shot and hit god right square in the nose before I get send to burn in your damn lake of fire.
BTW, a benevolent, omniscient, omnipotent god would neither create a lake of fire nor allow one to be created on his watch.
There’s no god. But, even if there were, there’d still be no hell. Unless, of course, it’s the mean spoiled child desert war god depicted in the bible, a god not worthy of my respect let alone obedience and thanks.
Bobster, you’re doing it again. You’re talking me to death. Do you have an advanced degree in that field?
Whoever said that I “give up my autonomy”? If you take out the trash because your wife asks you to, or give a stranded motorist a jump for their dead battery, are you “giving up your autonomy”?
btw, it’s a different “tack” you are taking, not a “tact”. I guess you’re not a sailor. If you’re close hauled, you’ll change your tack quite frequently.
Scottie, you’re cranky.
The “born-again wackos” don’t go to heaven. They go to purgatory, until they shape the fuck up.
As to God and the lake of fire, I was just funnin’ ya. Sorry if my humor did not come across clearly.
Why would you want to punch God in the nose? If only you knew Him. Don’t confuse Ted Haggard and other “meth and man-ass” hypocrites with truly spiritual individuals.
Were you abused by a priest as a youngster, or are you just particularly cranky today? Gosh!
Mustard==ok. Forbidden subject.
Case closed.
No ==-= Bobster =–= I think I answered all your questions. =-= Please advise –=– if there are any unanswered ====.
Are you offended that =I= pointed out -your- sailing terminology =-gaffe-=?
#46, Mustard,
There’s got to be SOMETHING you like in a Japanese restaurant.
Hhhmmm, the waitresses?
>>Hhhmmm, the waitresses?
Why, do the waitresses smell like fish at your local restaurant??
#55 Condommint,
As to God and the lake of fire, I was just funnin’ ya. Sorry if my humor did not come across clearly.
I knew that. I just chose to take you literally anyway. I also answer rhetorical questions.
Why would you want to punch God in the nose?
For being so unclear as to the requirements for getting into some mythical paradise that people kill each other for thousands of years over the right name to call him/her and the proper rituals for adoring the major league fuck-up.
What the hell kind of impotent god is so freakin’ ambiguous that people can’t even get the name and rituals right, let alone the commandments.
And why did the freakin’ narcissist waste 40% of the commandments on self-adoration? Why would an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-benevolent god be so insecure?
Were you abused by a priest as a youngster, or are you just particularly cranky today?
Nope. I was never molested by a leader of any religion. I have been beaten up for being the wrong one though.
How did wrong religions start in a universe with just one god? Or, does Christianity have it right and there are many gods (Father/Son/Holy Spirit, Satan/Beelzebub, angels who guide bullets away from the hearts of popes, angels who find lost objects, mother of god (if that’s not the ultimate contradiction, what is?), etc., etc., etc.? Or is it that god has multiple personality disorder?
With respect to your answer to bobbo, I’ve got some further questions. I take it that you claim that you’re doing this stuff for god freely. If so, do you feel the relationship is two way? Does god take out the garbage for you, so to speak? Is this tangible or he just makes you feel good? If the latter, couldn’t that just be an endorphin rush from doing something nice? When bad stuff happens to you, do you blame god? Or, do you give credit for the good but not blame for the bad?
57–Mustard? You surprise me. I am pissed off at my gaff. I do it with versus/verses all the time too.
Well, there is “arguing” and there is “trying to ram something down someone else’s throat” and there is “real curiosity.”
My brother in law is the minister of a church. I asked him and his response is honestly one of not even understanding the question.
You have the intellect to understand, so I am curious and do ask the question. When you say I am talking you to death after asking the question once and then asking a single followup question after a frank evasion on your part, then I think you don’t want to discuss it.
Maybe I changed gears too fast?
So==you want to help a stranded motorist, but god says No, don’t do it. What do you do?
#60 Scottie – you’re thinking way to hard about this. Just go with what you think is right. I’m sure you’ll do fine.
#61 Bobbie – I stop and help the motorist. Unless he looks like a murdering atheist.
(just kidding)