By SN
Sunday April 27, 2008
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WBBH – 4/23/08:
An eight-year old boy is about to get a first hand lesson in criminal justice. The second grader was arrested for allegedly punching his teacher in the face. NBC2’s Patrick Flanary had a chance to speak to the young boy.
An argument over crayons in the classroom ended inside a patrol car for second grader Deshawn Williams. His wrists were in handcuffs and his teacher was badly bruised.
“He gets very upset and he loves to hit,” said Deshawn’s grandmother Dorothy Williams.
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Dorothy says Deshawn often throws tantrums and gets physical, but never with adults.
At four feet tall and weighing only 70 pounds Deshawn may not appear threatening, yet he admits his tantrum went too far.
“I threw the chair over there and then she wants to press charges on me,” said Deshawn.
Deshawn’s teacher told Fort Myers police he hit several students, threw several chairs and when she tried to intervene, the boy threw several punches at her.
But Deshawn says he only hit her two times and says he did not hit her in the face. But police say the teacher did in fact have bruises on her face.
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Here’s a link to the school’s website.
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and says he did not hit her in the face. But police say the teacher did in fact have bruises on her face.
Not only a punk but a liar. We’ll be reading more about him in a few years.
The name is “Deshawn” . . . what do you expect?
These “made-up” names come with “made-up” excuses so I’m sure he’s “innocent by reason of ethnicity”!
Name: Deshawn Williams
No mother
Deshawn’s Grandmother says: “he loves to hit”
Deshawn hit several students
Deshawn threw several chairs
Deshawn threw several punches at his teacher
Deshawn badly bruised his teacher
Deshawn admits his tantrum went too far.
Deshawn says: “I threw the chair…”
Deshawn’s defense: he only hit her two times
Deshawn’s defense: he did not hit her in the face
Police say the teacher had bruises on her face.
And the pc crowd says we need to pay more taxes “for the children”?
I bet he has never been spanked.
This punk will be in prison very soon. Why not put him there right now and save them some grief?
In the article:
NBC2: What are you going to say to your teacher?
Deshawn: I’m going to say I’m sorry.
Ahhh, isn’t that just peachy. Now, everything will be fine and dandy.
You might need a trash bucket after reading the article, just in case you feel like puking.
Deshawn’s grandmother challenges the teacher’s discipline methods. “If she can’t deal with him, put him in someone else’s classroom.”
The school slogan is:
“Where Choice Determines Your Future”
I guess Deshawn did not choose wisely.
How is possible, legal, the name of an 8yr old child gets printed or released at all?
jbenson,
Your immaturity is showing.
I guess Deshawn did not choose wisely.
The effen kid is only EIGHT !!! What the eff did you expect from him? That is why we don’t allow kids that age to vote (it might be conservative), drive a car, sign a contract, or join the military.
I assume you are so outraged because those damn kids won’t get off your lawn.
Sounds like this CHILD needs to be in a BD classroom environment instead of a regular classroom. We have them here in this country. It’s called Special Education. Judging by the rants on this post, No one even knows this. It sounds to me like the ADULTS are responsible for a FAILURE to identify a CHILD with SPECIAL NEEDS. I am not being cute here, this does sound like a young boy with issues that need to be dealt with in the context of a self contained classroom. Everything I read in the article screams “Special Education”. Especially his behavior towards other children. So, SN lay off of adding fuel to a fire of which YOU personally can’t help. The only thing you can do is bring more half-baked, ignorant opinions on a issue that im sure none of you can be bothered to care about more than leaving some snotty missive.
OK,
We solved this LONG ago…
1. the ADULT hits BACK.
2. OTHER KIDS BEAT THE SNOT out of him..
It TEACHES something.
1. as an adult, I CAN HIT HARDER, so DONT hit me.
2. that OTHERS may learn to FIGHT BACK.
Then they learn to SIT, and DEAL with there problems.. Or maybe get it OUT and discus it, and if he Looses the DISCUSSION, he DEALS with it.
Perhaps in Florida a felony conviction is a prerequisite for getting the mental health services that this kid clearly needs.
I work in a small school district (and it is small)and we probably have a dozen or so kids like this. Most of them are living in terrible home situations with no parents or maybe with grandparents or relatives and they have either never had anyone capable of teaching them how to act or they have behavioral issues that will take years of intense training and therapy(that they are never going to get…lets face it, a school can only do so much) to overcome. Unlike most of us, they don’t have any of the social or emotional mechanisms that keep us from acting the same way. We KNOW that we will get in trouble or we will look like a fool and we just don’t do that stuff. Many of them are likeable, seet, kids when they are calm but they can become explosive over anything and everything an invariably do. The thing is that these kids have always existed and always will…white, hispanic, black….it doesn’t matter. They are there. 15 to 20 years ago they would have been expelled one way or another. Now schools are expected to do the best that they can. Most of them move from school system to school system (and then back and start over). It’s really a terrible thing and those of you here that think you have an easy answer (hit the kid, put him in jail…whatever) really just have no clue what it’s like to deal with all kinds of children on a daily basis. Yes, probably this kid and hundreds more like him will end up in the criminal justice system, a mental hospital, strung out on drugs, or dead because they don’t have what it takes to cope in the world. I’m not offering a solution because I don’t know what it is. If you do AND it’s constructive and not simply some knee-jerk right or left wing crap, lets hear it. I’m saying “think before you speak or act.” It’s what you expect from this kid and others like him. And Dvorak…you are guilty of throwing this stuff out there just to get these extreme reactions. You aren’t just telling a story…you’re spinning it.
Jesusfuckingchrist what a bunch of small minded reactionaries. “I bet he’s never been spanked.”. I guarantee he’s been beaten on a regular basis and exposed to violence as common form of behavior since he could walk. Should he be in a classroom with the general school population ? No. ! Should he be injected into the “criminal ‘justice’ system” at age 8 ? Oh yeah that’ll correct his violent behavior overnight.
I think the parents should be charged with abuse. No one who loves their child would name it “Deshawn”. That’s not a name!
Unless they wanted to make him as tough as the Boy Named Sue, which appears to have been successful, considering the bruising little Deeshie gave his teacher. When I was in second grade, every second grade teacher I had or knew of could have kicked my ass with one hand tied behind their back.
#14–David==it distresses me that you work in the system and have nothing to offer except denunciation of all options.
Point Blank==what would you do?
Like Chris Rock said, “if you are calling your grandmother mom and your mother Pam, you’re going to jail.”
Also, Deshawn was really 14 and still in second grade.
#16 – What do you mean that’s not a name? It’s a knee grow thing.
I find it strange in this day and age that teachers have not taken it upon themselves to get self-defense training?
One good year in jiu-jutsu and there would not be a friggin kid up to 18 that is unarmed that could even HIT the teacher let alone an 8 year old.
Wrist lock the lil SOB and walk his ass to the principal. No major harm to him, but a great lesson that your own strength may be used against you.
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Why are people insisting he has special needs? It’s quite apparent he’s a spoiled brat who gets his way at home no matter what he wants, and he can’t handle not getting his way at school as well.
He doesn’t have any special needs a boot the ass wouldn’t solve.
It is likely little Deshawn has some hormonal imbalances for his age. Testosterone makes any one more prone to violence. He is not psychologically mature enough to deal with it. Nor should he be blamed for it. It is also likely Deshawn is from a broken family. He will probably cost the state a lot of money in the near future that is unless he dies early – statistically homicide. Haven’t we seen this over and over. My treatment would be to cut his Testosterone level in half and give him a cocktail of mind enhancing drugs until he’s 18. At least he wont be in prison for homicide or equally bad, dead due to gang violence and drugs.
BTW the whole idea that you are going to discipline an 8-year-old with a raging level of testosterone in his blood is absolutely absurd. First control the chemistry of his mind and body then you will be able to reason with him. If he’s not a sociopath and did not suffer serious abuse at home, he should be able to make good progress with the right treatment.
It is obvious that he is not living with his mom or dad (probably has never met his dad).
That is what is wrong with parts of our society today. Women (sometimes girls)having babies before they are married. These kids growing up with no dad. Many times mom can not raise them so grandma or auntie has to raise them.
These women have 3-4 kids with different men, are on welfare, these kids have no loving discipline or boundries in their lives so they do bad in school, drop out, get in trouble with the law and by the time they are 18 the boys are in jail (or have a long arrest record) or the girls become pregnant themselves, they’re in gangs, drugs, etc. and the cycle starts all over again.
What to do: 1) Stay off of drugs and alcohol. 2) Finish high school. 3) Do not get preganant out of wedlock 4) Do not leave one job before securing another.
If everybody follows these simple rules, 70% of all poverty would be wiped out in the U.S.A. in one to two generations.
sonofasailor that is weak and absurd. We had prohibition remember? It didn’t work!
Let start with point 2. Finish High school. How are they to finish any kind of school when their mind cant function like yours? Imagine if your mind was unable to concentrate due to the massive amount of testosterone running through your veins. The only thing you’d be thinking about is sports fighting and sex! That’s what excessive amounts of the hormone promotes. Point one stay off the drugs. How’s that going to work. Besides making you more prone to violence and sports testosterone makes you willing to take risks- impaired judgment skills. Point 3 is too obvious so I wont reply to that one. Point 4 see my answer to point 1.
Your solution is completely unrealistic and doesnt address any of the real problems with children like Deshawn.
#24 Wrote…”Your solution is completely unrealistic and doesn’t address any of the real problems with children like Deshawn.”
While it may not look like it if you read the news a wide majority of kids do all 4 of #23’s suggestions. (Well at least they don’t let (1) destroy their lives.) So it is realistic and it directly addresses the problems that Deshawn and kids like him have.
I work as a substitute teacher in one of the many “ghettos” in Los Angeles and this kind of behavior is actually fairly uncommon. I work with a lot the Special Education students and his behavior is sounds a lot like Serious Emotional Disturbance(SED). If this is the case then he is not in control of his own actions and cannot be blamed for them in the same way an untreated schizophrenic also cannot be blamed for what they do. The brain of the child is not working properly, physically and requires medication. Unfortunately, health care being what it is today, the grandmother probably either has no health care for the child or lacks the funds for proper mental health treatment because most insurance polices don’t cover mental health at all. If he is SED than he should be placed in a Special Education class where the teacher is trained in how to deal with children like that. However, if it is simply an issue of an otherwise typical child acting out then prison will certainly not help. In that case a one on one aide could be assigned to him in order to provide academic and behavioral assistance to the child that the teacher could not provide alone. Of course any solution is going to cost money and school districts are already having trouble keeping afloat as is.
what a jerk off. adult charges are for ADULTS,, HELLO, he’s 8. Probably the next great amercian prize fighter, or least makes big $$$ in the WWF. Someone mentioned Chris Rock, he was a smart ass in school.. did OK..
#26 – If you are a special ed teacher in L.A. (which I do No t doubt) You Should also be aware that children like Deshawn are entitled BY FEDERAL LAW to receive an education based upon their IEP. This however does not necessarily grant the proper course of treatment and education for the child. The parents or court advocates must challenge and fight what almost assuredly is a finding beneficial to the L.A. Unified School district. UNFORTUNATELY. God help this young child and his family ( read: ALL OF US ).
I know the Feds have to offer services based on IEP evaluations and goals but often times issues with the testing(ie. having teachers in on the IEP who don’t actually work with the student) can effect diagnosis and what goals the child is seen to need to meet. Also, schools too often either don’t act to get help for students or act in a slow fashion to get the aide started. I see at least one student a week in various classes at all grade levels that have issue that were never caught by an IEP or if they were they are not being properly accommodated. I have had talks with RSP teachers and Speech Pathologists who can’t keep all there students straight because of excessive work loads or worse, incompetence. All of these issues result in some kids getting missed and I think this kid could be one of them. I have no knowledge of how Florida school districts function but if they are anything like here then the odds are good the kid slipped through a crack.
I have never seen a child act like this who has a full time dad.
GigG did your read what I wrote? Apparently not. If Deshawn’s body chemistry is abnormal ie. his testosterone levels are significantly higher than normal, then It doesn’t make a difference that most young people are able to do in school. Most young people would not have his body chemistry. As for example smokers. Most smokers are unable to kick the habit longer than 2 years. Once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. They may be able to control their affliction but never kid yourself they’re never far from a relap. High levels of testosterone make youngsters violent and increases sexual promiscuity. Low levels of DHA in a child’s diet and other mind enhancing molecule promote healthy brain function. GigG you are quick to pass judgement on what an 8-year-old should be able to do. I don’t believe Deshawn is in control of himself. As “thisisridiculous” said, he will probably be gifted in sports because of his high level of testosterone, that is unless he doesnt kill some one first. Does anybody remember where Cus Amato found young Mike Tyson? And how old was he? So GigG you really need to spend a little more time thinking before you draw snap conclusions. If you doubt the power of hormones over the body just ask any pregnant woman what she’s going through! And watch out she does slap u upside the head. LOL