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The felons accepted into the army and marines included 87 soldiers convicted of assault or maiming, 130 convicted of non-cannabis-related drug offences, seven convicted of making terrorist threats, and two convicted of indecent behaviour with a child. Waivers were also granted to 500 burglars and thieves, 19 arsonists and nine sex offenders.
The new data were released by the oversight committee of the House of Representatives. Henry Waxman, the Democratic chairman of the oversight panel, said that while “providing opportunities to individuals who have served their sentences and rehabilitated themselves” is important, the waivers are a sign that the US military is stretched too thin…
More than one felony conviction disqualifies recruits from the army or marines, but the navy and air force can admit those with multiple offences.
Think we’d stop being “stretched too thin” if we didn’t invade countries under false pretenses?
Always illuminating to see what the “family values” nutballs practice – when they’re finished preaching.
Not that anyone still clinging like dingleberries to the hind hairs of the Republikan Party will see the light.
We either need to stop invading countries under false pretenses, or reinstate the draft.
But…oh no! Then the children of the chickenhawks who invade countries under false pretenses might have to serve in the armed forces. And maybe they’d stop invading countries under false pretenses.
Hey, I see a Nobel Peace Prize in the future for me!
#2 – But…oh no! Then the children of the chickenhawks who invade countries under false pretenses might have to serve in the armed forces.
The nepotist son of privilege occupying a stolen desk at the White House never served… Those people never had to serve before, unless they wanted to (more Democrats do than Republicans), so why do you think they’d have to in the future.
>>why do you think they’d have to in the future?
Well, perhaps I should have said “they’re more likely to have to” serve.
Perhaps Dumbya could get The Twins a marriage/ bridesmaid deferment. But I’ll bet President Cheney’s lesbo daughter would be training up on RPGs and searching eBay for cheap body armor. That might have made Dick a little less eager to throw young people into Iraq as cannon fodder.
They’re soldiers. In the end their job is to go out and kill a lot of people, not to distribute soccer balls or get the local population to love ’em. If they’re not ambassadors, why not send whom you can find?
The military has been proven to provide excellent training to gang bangers who join specifically to get free training that they can then use back home.
Really schizophrenic how we in fact and in theory deal with “the military.” It covers so many issues in so many ways, you can validly think whatever you want of it.
Raise your hands===who here thinks ex-cons should NOT be allowed to serve in the military as cannon fodder, but should be allowed to babysit our kids in kiddie care?
Go ahead, be proud.
The cops are going to love those well trained gang bangers when they get home. I predict an increase in the number of police funerals. Just imagine … a gang banger SWAT team.
>>who here thinks ex-cons should NOT be allowed
>>to serve in the military as cannon fodder,
>>but should be allowed to babysit our kids
>>in kiddie care?
Christ, Bobster, what state do you live in?? Where I live, ex-cons have a hard time getting a job stacking lumber at Home Depot or rolling around the Blue Light at K-Mart, much less babysitting our kids in kiddie care.
As to allowing violent criminals and sex offenders to serve in the military, do you remember My Lai? Multiply that and Abu Grhaib by 1000.
#7 – I want the old Bobbo back.
The new one is just making up crazy shit just to be making up crazy shit.
#9–Now Mustard, I guess you are responding to affirmatively state you are NOT raising your hand? That’s good. I think you are the only one agreeing with me that sex-offenders should not live at kiddie care facilities. So many of your fellow bloggers think we are being unreasonable.
I guess you missed this over the weekend:
Sex offenders living at child care facilities /// http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17298
But you think ex-cons shoudn’t be cannon fodder in the army huh? Now, I thought My Lai was an exercise in American Patriotism? Ex-cons kill only in their self interest. It takes a patriot to kill a village out of general principles.
>>I guess you missed this over the weekend:
Naw, I didn’t miss it. And as you may have inferred from the story, sex offenders are NOT “allowed to” babysit our kids in kiddie care. Sure, there are some sex offenders who lie about their status, and there are kiddie care place managers who are total fuckups and don’t do background checks, but the situation is not “allowed”. And when it’s discovered, the kiddie care places are shut down.
That’s somewhat different from The Full Power and the Glory of the US Government giving its imprimatur to the enlisting of hardened criminals and sexual deviants into the armed forces, for no other reason than they’re hard up for warm bodies.
This just in Marines surrender in Tehran. Headlines read: Brave Marines Left Ammo Belts At Home because it cramped their sagging trousers.
#2 “We either need to stop invading countries under false pretenses, or reinstate the draft.”
Yep. We disrupted the Taliban gov’t without the need to stay there and we used a minimum of troops. Should have left that country as soon as they were taken out. We should take our troops out of EU, Japan & ROK also. Place them on our Southern border.
>>We disrupted the Taliban gov’t without the
>>need to stay there and we used a minimum
>>of troops.
Eh? And now they’re back, stronger than ever.
We should never have gotten involved in any of that stuff in the first place, at least not without a “plan”. And formulating a “plan” is something that the current “government” of the US seems congenitally unable to do.
Wouldn’t allowing Gang-bangers into the military simply be a good way to put their hard earned and highly honed skills to good use?
All kidding aside, I remember hearing a lot of stories where the judge gave the defendant a choice. You can either go to prison or go in the army. Now I do not know from personal experience, but I have heard from many sources -some of whom were given this choice- that this was a good thing. I have often wished that the judges would be more liberal in sending some of these guys into the military instead of prison. I don’t know about THESE guys, I wasn’t sitting in on the hearings, but as a general rule it could be a good thing.
#15 “Eh? And now they’re back, stronger than ever.”
Yep. I looked at it as more of a punishment than any type of long term solution. The best plan is to eliminate our dependence on oil so there is no real incentive to mess with that part of the world.
>>The best plan is to eliminate our dependence
>>on oil so there is no real incentive to
>>mess with that part of the world.
I’m with you there, Paddy-O! That’s why I’m standing in solidarity with Bobbo on adding tax to gasoline. I can GUARANTEE you that if gas cost $15.00/gal, the market would find alternatives.
#18 – “I can GUARANTEE you that if gas cost $15.00/gal, the market would find alternatives.”
I agree. However, the gov’t would then probably create all kinds of regs to impede the deployment of said alternatives. History has already shown that.
The only viable, large scale replacement of base load generation (currently fossil fuel) is nuc at this time. Between the oil companies and Eco types this has been regulated out of existence. Same would happen with other VIABLE (which aren’t in existence yet) technologies.
We 1st need to go with 100% publicly financed elections from the Rep level on up. Include tighter laws on getting even a penny or future job with special interests…
>>Between the oil companies and Eco types this
>>has been regulated out of existence.
Eco types are coming back to nuclear.
I agree about the publicly financed elections. They should have a couple of televised debates, no TV/ radio/ billboard/ newspaper ads; people watch the debates if they’re interested, go vote, and be done with it.
With all the money that would be saved on the current multi-billion dollar debacle, we could solve world hunger, the credit crunch, the housing fiasco. And if we cancelled the war in Iraq, we’d have so much money it would be coming out of our ears, like Saudi Arabian princes.
0. “Think we’d stop being “stretched too thin” if we didn’t invade countries under false pretenses?”
Like taking out lower Manhattan and Kuwait?
RBG
#20 “And if we cancelled the war in Iraq, we’d have so much money it would be coming out of our ears, like Saudi Arabian princes.”
No shit. Health care wouldn’t be an issue either.
I am somewhat a Libertarian but if the choice is between spending on useless wars or on our own…
With recruitment levels at all time lows, recruiters are being told to get bodies in at any cost. The countless passes being given to criminals shouldn’t come as any surprise to anyone who’s been paying attention.
>>The countless passes being given to
>>criminals shouldn’t come as any
>>surprise to anyone who’s been paying
>>attention.
Oh, we’ve been paying attention. We’ve been trying to get the Chickenhawk-in-Chief impeached ever since he stole the election back in 2000. Unfortunately, no politician has the backbone to make this moral imperative happen.
A sad day (or 8 years) for America.
#24 – Don’t worry. Once Billary or Ohama gets in they’ll fix everything. Especially with the help of the current congress… If the rethugs could have “fixed” the election they would have done it to keep the congress, BTW.
24. MM. George who? Relax. Soon your Spawn of Satan will be gone and finally you’ll have the Conservative president you’ve always hoped for.
RBG
The more screw ups the US sends… the more screw ups they will make… scerwing things up even worse than they are already.
The more screw ups the US sends… the more screw ups they will make… screwing things up even worse than they are already.
….like spelling for instance…
ARGH.
>>Don’t worry. Once Billary or Ohama
>>gets in they’ll fix everything.
Just knowing that someone other than the Chickenhawk-in-Chief will be sitting in the Oval Office goes half-way towards fixing the problem. Could be a giant cockroach, could be an alien coming out of Sigourney Weaver’s belly. ANYTHING would be better than the explosive diarrhea we’ve been treated to for the last eight years.
YA-HOO!!!