Democrats faced the prospect of at least six more weeks of tough campaigning after Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night wins in Tuesday’s primaries in Ohio and Texas as she escaped a knockout blow by Barack Obama.
Hillary Clinton won primaries in Rhode Island, Texas and Ohio Tuesday night while Barack Obama won Vermont.
“Ohio has written a new chapter in the history of this campaign, and we’re just getting started,” Clinton told supporters in her victory speech in Ohio.
“More and more people have joined this campaign, and millions of Americans haven’t spoken yet. In states like Pennsylvania and so many others, people are watching this historic campaign, and they want their turn to help make history.”
Will Hillary accept the vice-president spot on Obama’s ticket?
She was never “out” of the race. This is the media’s attempt to “create” drama and they are doing a good job at it. Everybody knows that Hillary will not win, no matter how the media decides to package the race. Hillary needs to stop crying about it and back the candidate who will be going up against the Republican minority.
She was never out of the race…
The Obama supporters just created a virtual reality of psychophants around themselves the same way the Kerry supporters did in 2004. The media with their hatred of women, did the same thing.
They just got a smack down from reality;)
Also, it seem we are right on track for my mass suicide predictions. All those Limbaugh listeners who just helped her become president, should go on suicide watch straight away;)
Delighted. I was there last night in my district here in Dallas and doing the caucus thang 🙂
We saw about a 4 to 1 Hillary advantage in my little square of downtown Dallas for the delegate vote. How fun that was and how it should be to get the community together.
I’m so looking forward to the general elections. It’s really about tossing out Bush anyway, right? The icing on the cake is to see all those fat Republicans cry when I take a trip out to the suburbs to see the Christmas lights on their McMansions. It really will be a joyous season.
Don’t be too fast to say that she is going to be our next president. Obama still has more delegates and more support behind him, plus the winner of the caucus in Texas gets a third of the delegates (meaning if Obama gets them he would have won more delegates from Texas than Hillary). I just don’t want this going all the way to the convention because the Clintons will have a lot of sway if it’s still up in the air.
Primary hog day? Is that a term? Six more weeks… until primary hog day II.
She’s not back in the race, that’s just the elation of her campaign surviving to have hope to fight the next day.
Someone only gets to run for president maybe once in their lifetime, and surely it is a special moment.
After 4 or 5 days, it’ll be back to reality for the Clinton campaign. Wyoming is as good as Obamas and so is Mississippi. Pennsylvania is a mixed state.
Hillary has been very good on television lately and looks more confident and self-assured.
But her problem is that she is more personable when she’s losing and not very graceful when she’s winning.
I believe a yesterday was very good for Obama because he needs to be tested a little to back up his words with some more clarity of exactly what he stands for.
Obama should get a taste of tough times now, rather than only face the heat for the first time after getting the nomination.
I think everyone would like to see Obama have to face some more tough questioning to see how reacts, but he’s up to the task.
And he needs to EARN the nomination a little more. So it’s good that it isn’t over. I don’t think he’s faced enough tough questioning yet.
If Obama asked, will Hillary become his VP? She’d be an idiot not to. It’s still a good path to being the Pres in turn.
But here is the question: If Hillary asked, would Obama become her VP? Would he choose to become a de-facto 2nd VP behind Bill?
Here’s a brain twister. What if Hillary chooses Bill to be VP? Although Bill cannot run for Pres. again, there may not be any prohibition to him running for VP.
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# 6 Hmeyers said, She’s not back in the race, that’s just the elation of her campaign surviving to have hope to fight the next day.
What do you mean “just surviving”? It’s practically dead even as it’s been since the primaries started.
It always amazes me how un-objective people are about politics.
I still say it’s gruesome how the media keeps trying to bury this woman and then she keeps rising up out of the grave they are continuously digging for her. Jeeze, why won’t she just lay there and let them finish shoveling dirt on her?
Before 3/4 she needed 58% overall to win. Now she needs overall 62% to win. How is she ‘back in the race’ with that? That makes no sense at all to me. She might be winning, but winning by 51% in TX and 54% in OH *is not enough*.
Go Obama!
>> # 10 Urs Muff
You’d be right if that’s the way we Democrats did our primary.
It’s not.
The super delegates have a right to notice that Hillary won in the key big states we need to win against McCain — and to vote for her because of that.
Ok, I think I’ve got it now.
Obama would never accept the nomination for VP from Hillary because he wouldn’t want to be competing with Bill, and by the same token he would never extent the extend the VP to Hillary because he doesn’t want his decisions to be second guessed by Bill.
So, there will never be a Obama Hillary ticket!
If Obamania makes it to the convention without the required number of delegates, he’s screwed…its called “Smoke-filled back room politics” and the Clintons are masters of that theater of the absurd.
I think an Obama-Clinton ticket makes great sense…if you hope to keep Obama alive.
The neocon nutballs who thrive on the NSA-style politics of decisions made by assassination would be scared shitless of anything happening to Obama.
@GregA “What do you mean “just surviving”? It’s practically dead even as it’s been since the primaries started.”
How can you say that? She lost 11 primaries in a row to Obama before yesterday.
She didn’t win a net gain of anything yesterday, but that was the big news.
Big News Headline!
“Hillary Splits delegates 50/50 for once, instead of losing yet more primaries!”
I’m objective. I knew Obama was going to lose 3 of 4 yesterday and even knew the margins in advance. Ohio is really hee-haw-ville, I hate to say.
Why does Hillary “proving” she can win the big states that have voted Democrat 8 elections in a row mean anything? CA, NY, NJ? Walter Mondale could run for prez this year and win those.
“The Obama supporters just created a virtual reality of psychophants around themselves the same way the Kerry supporters did in 2004. The media with their hatred of women, did the same thing.”
LMAO at all the people who don’t get the why of Obamamania.
You wanna go back to the nineties in “hope” that maybe things will be better? Or do you want an open government… with lots of oversight on itself? The promise of Bilary is no investigations into wrong doings while the same people get to continue to make out well.
It will take the election of a McCain or Clinton to make you numb nuts realize you can’t be objective about the country you live in. Because either one of those will work very hard screwing things up more for us here. Where as with Obama you’d have them working hard to screw things up for him by blocking everything he’ll try to do.
I don’t believe you can get away with another Carter like presidency. I don’t think it would go down as him being a do nothing president in this day and age. CSPAN and the blogs would keep things well documented LOL
Anybody who thinks Hillary is back in the race had better check out the numbers over at Daily Kos this morning.
Despite a 3 state win, Hillary has only gained maybe a few (less than 20) delegates more than Obama. She needed well over 100 to stay in.
Worse, under no reasonable expectated outcome is it possible for Clinton to regain the regular delegate lead over Obama, even if the rest of the races (including Michigan and Florida revotes) are 60-40 in favor of Clinton, she still falls short.
Anyone who thinks superdelegates will give her the nomination even though the public has picked Obama is barking up the wrong tree. The Dems are not dumb enough to commit party suicide just to give Clinton the nod.
I am also quite certain, Clinton’s negative campaigning has cost her any chance to be the VP under Obama. It would be a drag on Obama’s chances in the General if he picked her.
Obama is the nominee, Clinton lost. Anyone who does not accept that is not smarter than a fifth grader, because the arithmetic already declared the winner. Expect a large group of Superdelegates to come forward to say the same thing and give Obama the nomination.
After what happened to Vince Foster, I don’t think that Obama would be wise to have Hilly and Billy sitting behind him!
Hillary wants to be the president for the sake of being president.
As president, she will do the minimum she has to while maintaining the worst possible ethics that the public will tolerate (just like Billy).
Her campaign reflects this.
She didn’t want to earn the presidency. She wanted a coronation.
She did the minimum campaigning necessary. She treated herself and her staff to lavish events and blew through $130 million.
Well, that’s not good enough for me.
It was ok for her to lose 11 states in a row because she wasn’t willing to do the hard work to try will every state, she wanted to do the minimum work and that didn’t pan out.
Meanwhile, Obama campaigns hard in every state he can. He reaches out to people. He’s inclusive. It is obvious he cares and it obvious he feels that there are things about this country that could be improved.
Hillary is running a John Kerry campaign. John Kerry thought he could be elected merely because he wasn’t Bush. He didn’t feel he had to earn anything or do hard work or make a commitment to solve the real problems.
Hillary is the person interviewing for a job that has a padded resume and isn’t willing to work hard for it and if she gets in, you’ll never be rid of her and she won’t do anything.
Obama is the guy with a decent resume, but you can tell he’ll bust his ass if he’s hired and you know he pushes himself to do better.
The Clintons are like cockroaches (in more ways than one). We could have a nuclear war and the Clintons will still be hanging around. This is excellent, as it means the Democrats will continue to slap each other silly – which is entertaining.
We’re all already screwed no matter what, so as much entertainment leading up to the election is a priority.
Ah Yea,
I think there will be an Obama/Clinton ticket. The order is still up for grabs but will probably go Obama for Prez. They would be foolish not to. It would show the party and the electorate that Democrats are in this together. The last thing they want is to fracture and allow another Republican majority.
It matters little to me who wins as they are both qualified. I just hope they remember the rest of the leaders including Edwards and Richardson. Both will likely get high Cabinet posts.
If there isn’t a joint ticket, look to Clinton to become the next Senate Majority Leader.
Short synopsis:
John McCain starts general election.
Hillary and Obama can now beat each other up for 7 more weeks waiting for PA. McCain can push his agenda and let Clinton go negative on Obama. This will cut into Obama’s current lead in the polls over McCain without him having to get dirty.
If Hillary is elected she can be accused of flip flopping on Iraq and loses the battle to McCain if she tries to run on the same things she’s pushing now experience and readiness to be commander in chief.
If Obama is elected she will have seriously weakened him.
This win for Hillary is not a win for the democratic party.
In the end. The democrats could lose because of her wins yesterday.
#19 – “Obama is the guy with a decent resume, but you can tell he’ll bust his ass if he’s hired and you know he pushes himself to do better.”
Okay. Bust his ass doing what? His site is long on hype and way too short on specifics. I’ve e-mailed his site repeatedly asking for plan specifics and nothing but silence.
An Obama/Clinton will never happen.
#1 No presidential nominee ever picks someone for VP that doesn’t know who the boss is. A numero uno wants a loyal #2.
#2 Michelle Obama won’t want Hillary as the VP. Do you think Obama doesn’t listen to his woman?
#3 He needs someone from a bell-weather state to make a November will more assured.
#4 The same people who are repelled by Hillary will still be less likely to vote Obama if she’s VP on his ticket.
#5 He needs a semi-religious white guy who is confident with some “heft”, but not pompous.
Most likely: Sam Nunn, Ted Strickland, Tom Vilsack or possibly Richardson or Edwards (being VP nominee twice? Too weird. Won’t happen).
#21 Yes, you make an excellent point.
That would be by far the smartest thing for the Democratic ticket. Now let’s see if they will actually do it.
Obama/Clinton or the reverse means they don’t secure the South. Edwards possibly…
@#23 “Bust his ass doing what? His site is long on hype and way too short on specifics.”
A president sets priorities, the Congress/Senate and advisors work on the specifics.
What are McCain’s specifics now? What were Bill Clintons when he was running?
No one asked McCain for specifics because he doesn’t have any ideas. No one asks Hillary specifics because she starts spooking everyone … i.e. “I’ll solve the uninsured problem by requiring poor people to buy health insurance!” … Yikes!!
#27 – “A president sets priorities, the Congress/Senate and advisors work on the specifics.”
ROFL!
Obama: Raises his hand and commands Congress, “Fix the economy,create jobs & affordable health care!. Sleep not, until it is done. I have spoken!” LOL!
BTW – I’m asking about Obama’s plans so I can see if I want to vote for him. If he can’t answer tough questions then no vote. His problem not mine.
“Hillary’s back in the race”
–Damn.
#28 Obama’s plans with detailed specifics have been up at his web site for over a year now.