THE HAGUE, Netherlands – Hidden camera footage broadcast by a crime reporter Sunday apparently showed Dutch student Joran van der Sloot admitting he was with American teenager Natalee Holloway when she died on a beach in Aruba in May 2005, and that he called a friend and asked him to dispose of the body at sea. “She suddenly didn’t do anything anymore,” Van der Sloot said of the 18-year-old Holloway in a conversation with a man he believed to be his friend.
Holloway vanished just before she was due to fly home to Alabama, at the end of her high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island. No trace of her has been found since. The exchange, in Dutch, was recorded in a car that had been rigged with three hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch television crime reporter who claims the footage solves the mystery surrounding Holloway’s disappearance. It was shown on Dutch television. In the video, Van der Sloot said he panicked and tried but failed to revive Holloway after she began shaking and then slumped to the sand.
He then used a pay phone next to a hotel’s swimming pool to call a friend with a boat to dispose of the body, he said. “The ocean is big,” he added. Van der Sloot said his friend assured him he had taken care of Holloway’s body and that the police were not going to locate it. “They will know nothing,” Van der Sloot quoted the friend as telling him. In the images, Van der Sloot speaks matter-of-factly about the case, saying at one point, “I’ve not lost any sleep over this.” In a telephone interview with a Dutch news show Friday night, Van der Sloot acknowledged that he had discussed his alleged involvement in Holloway’s disappearance with a friend, but insisted it was a lie and he had nothing to do with the case.
Is this kid really so stupid as to confide in a crime reporter? He could have gotten away with murder, and may still. It almost seems like he wanted to get caught. Either that or he is thumbing his nose at the system.
Makes me wonder about a couple of things.
As you say–stupid kid, but still may get away with a murder charge==but if he is telling the truth, there was no mureder?==just improper disposal of a body, lying to police, obstruction of justice, conspiracy regarding the above, littering, etc.
A “friend” helps to dispose of the body and doesn’t talk about it? Must have a judge for a daddy to have such friends.
Must be something deep in the human psyche to talk about such a subject. If I decided to do such a thing, and I can see the motive to not get the police involved in such cases, I don’t think I’d ever mention it==but then I’d call the police too.
I can almost understand his panicking and rushing to destroy all the evidence. But him saying “I’ve not lost any sleep over this”; that’s pretty bad.
Even if he didn’t cause the girl’s death, he has caused unimaginable suffering for her loved ones by not coming forward and telling the truth.
When he was initially arrested they overheard his father tell him, “no body, no crime.” Either way, if he did it he is a criminal, if he didn’t do it and said he lied about it without remorse, he’s criminally insane. The best I could hope for at the point is he becomes Bubba’s wife in jail.
Some were truth, and some were lies.
That she was a slut was true. That he didn’t lose one minute of sleep was true. That his friend dumped her body like an old rag was true.
However, that she started shaking when they were caressing was not true. Why? If that was the case, he would have alerted the authority or the medical persons. What really happened was he killed her. There were reports that his father advised him on getting rid of the body, because without a body, they couldn’t touch him. His father deserves to have a worthless son like that, the way he raised him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he dumps his father like an old rag when he gets old.
#4 – I don’t understand how you can say she was a slut. If she was drunk, she obviously made a bad decision to go with this guy. That doesn’t make her a slut.
I have personally dated some sluts. I hate having women knock on my door at 4:00 in the morning and I have to get up to let them out.
I have to agree with #4 all the way. To elaborate further, Van der Sloot is a true sociopath. Assuming anything he said has any truth at all, he has absolutely no remorse for what he did and did not do.
I know that if I was on the beach with someone and she started shaking and passed out, I would be taking her to the hospital without a second thought.
Why did he to hide his shoes? Why would he, quote: hang if her body was found? Because of the marks of murder on them…
This man is dangerously insain, calling the victim bad names, enjoying openly his ‘clevernes’ and thinking about how to get more money out of it all.
Yes I think he lied (again ), he lied about her dying by accident.
He didn’t confide in a crime reporter, he befriended a guy in the Netherlands that went to the crime reporter. Then this “friend” had cameras installed in his car with the help of the crime reporter and taped all the talks he had with Joran.
Can anyone say OJ Simpson? But I am surprised at how little attention the people who were supposed to supervising have been given.
Do we just let these kids run amuck? We don’t seem to put at least some of the blame on Natalie because she went out in a strange place and drank alcohol, unsupervised and we are surprised at the results?
If he lived in the US he could grow up to become a beloved Dem Senator!
van der sloot should have called the hospital. holloway should not have mixed cocaine with alcohol and asked him to drink from her navel. and what about the country’s and the media’s reaction a few years ago? boycott travel to aruba? we all acted with a collective insanity. we are no better than a group of crazy arabs (of whom we make so much fun). shame on v.d. sloot, on natalie, on the public media, and on all americans who just emoted without knowing the facts. lynch first ask questions later. time to take a look inside, at who we are. the truth hurts, can we learn from this?
We can deduce very quickly that Van de Sloot’s story is a fabrication. Had his friend taken the body a mere mile offshore and dumped it, it would have washed up on a beach with the next tide. Even if the body had been weighted down, the waters off the coast are relatively shallow and fringed with reefs. Diving and snorkling are common. Somone would have found the body. I think this kid knew he was being recorded and decided to do some chain-yanking.
Fact is, if I was a suspect in a murder, I would not go around “making up” lies. I would want to distance myself as far as possible from the incident. Regardless of how she really died, this guy is a sociopath for not trying to get her medical attention, and for saying he didn’t lose sleep over her death.
Why is everyone bagging on the dude? He might have killed a young stupid cocain snorting hooker. Who cares? The real issue is with the hooker who’s snorting cocain, having sex with men after knowing them for 2 hours, and partying in a different country to celebrate their high school graduation. Seems like her parents should share a lot of the blame too. They should have taught her not to use drugs, not to screw someone after 2 hours, and to not be drinking until you’re legally old enough.
I think the guy did it and the confession is real. The crime reporter hired a local guy to become friends with Joran. This took six months. After six months of ‘friendship’ the local guy and Joran did some weet in a car and then Joran began bragging about how he did it. Calling the cops losers and making fun of the dead girl. But he didn’t kill her, he just hid the body.
The problem is that this tape doesn’t proof anything and the guy will walk.
Blame the victim. Always the same old thing. Men go out, get drunk, have a great time AND sometimes get hurt (jumped, etc.). Men are always considered victims after this happens. BUT, let a woman do the same, and she automatically becomes a “slut.” You people truly make me sick! So was he a slut as well? After all by your misguided logic, he only knew her 2 hours as well. Shouldn’t that make him a slut? Fact of the matter is men have been getting off with this kind of behavior since the beginning of time and other men have been protecting them from their behavior since the beginning of time.
In the US he could be tried and convicted just on the circumstantial evidence. Dutch law may require a dozen eye witnesses, a video recording of the crime and a detailed confession to the Pope..and even then it might be a close one. I have a bad feeling that he’s going to walk yet again.
And the odds finally hit home that rich American families sending their overly privileged brats to a foreign resort for a graduation celebration would get bit in the ass. It was inevitable. Sorry Natalie, your number happened to come up because of your parent’s arrogant display of wealth, their obvious lack of care in helping to protect you and your safety while in a foreign land and your blind trust in all people being good. And, being drunk and /or drugged didn’t pay off.
I don’t understand the fascination with this case. It’s always horrible when someone is murdered, but it’s not more horrible if it’s a pretty white girl, and surely there were other people killed that year and since. Why is this a nationwide sensation? Somebody help me out here.
#18. Maybe the fact that this kids father is a judge in Aruba and apparently coached his son to elude the charges.
Was she a slut or a van der slut?
Enquiring minds want to know.
seriously! the US media is ridiculous– if she weren’t white, (arguably) attractive, this story wouldn’t have broke. the parents on both sides are ridiculous– on one side the parents for spoiling their kid and the other for using their political/judicial clout to exploit and manipulate the legal system. this boy is ridiculous for constantly lying and admitting he’s lying. this whole thing is riveting because this kid can’t keep his mouth shut– he’s so preposterous, it’s like now WE WANT TO SEE HIM GET CAUGHT in his lies… like OJ.
First, I would like to address the many very negative comments about Natalee. You are so wrong in your judgement of her. Yes, she may have had a few drinks, she was on VACATION, but I don’t believe she took cocaine on her own, I think URINE put whatever drug that he CLAIMS she was on in her drink, if she even had drugs in her system. He is obviously on drugs as per the video of him smoking a joint. If this had been one of YOUR daughters or family members, you would not feel or say these terrible things about YOUR family member, so why say them about someone you don’t even KNOW? You’ll never know what a wonderful young woman she was. I pray that nothing of this nature ever happens to anyone again. Why is this case still in the media you ask? Because you have a MOM and family that have went up against a foreign government on their own in search of their daughter. They wanted and still want answers, and all they’ve been given is LIES from everyone involved!! IMO I think this is what happened: Natalee was drugged at Carlos and Charlies, they went to the beach where she was raped by URINE, and probably the depak brothers also. Not even sure if she was indeed dead, he calls his good friend (the guy that owns the party boat business), and he…”took care of business”, after they put her body on the boat. His DAD knows exactly what happened and IMO was part of this horrific crime..as he said “no body, no crime”. Just watching that video of URINE makes me sick to my stomach. We, as Americans, yes even Americans that are not rich, can’t even visit a foreign land and feel safe, and secure in a Government that hides the truth in a crime for the sake of their own. BIG COVERUP!!!! and who pays the price? NOT URINE, he gloats about it, not his dad, not the kalpoe brothers, or anyone else involved with this CRIME. The only ones that are suffering because of this is Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalees Dad, her whole family, and friends. URINE, to you, I say KARMA WILL GET YOU, BANK ON IT!!!!!!! I only hope and pray that God will ease and mend the broken hearts of Natalee’s family. As a Mom, I commend Beth Holloway Twitty for her determination and strength and not giving up but pressing forward. The fight is not over yet!!! BOYCOTT ARUBA!!! YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!!
#22 – This is NOT an issue with Aruba. You don’t think the people from Aruba feel bad that this psycho killed a young girl there? He is not from Aruba, he is from the Netherlands. The people of Aruba are wonderful and don’t deserve this rap. Should we boycott California because OJ killed Nicole? What a dumb fucking statement.
NO “judge” it was THE GOVERNMENT IN ARUBA (MAYOR) that would NOT rearrest and basically turned his nose up to real evidence of this crime, I am sure there are nice people there, but would “I” want to go there? After the way the GOVERNMENT has handled this case from day one? I think not! And I’m just willing to BET that URINE still frequents Aruba,carlos and charlies,and anywhere IN Aruba and is STILL up to his “bad habits” and is STILL welcomed there. THAT is what is EFFING DUMB snd stupid I might add!! Let URINE go to Mexico and try his dirty deeds, see how fast they lock him up and he.. or anyone else that commits a crime of such nature will never see daylight again! Granted, I’m well aware of the difference in laws of the United States AND Aruba, at LEAST OJ was tried before a jury, NOT something I see happening in ARUBA for URINE. R.I.P. Natalee
#22, cc,
Your whole post is conjecture and wishful thinking.
Was she on drugs? You claim no, yet you want to believe the tape which claims she was. So is the tape then wrong? Or is the tape only wrong in certain parts. The parts you don’t like.
The rest of your blather is filled with “I think”, “IMO”, and “BIG COVERUP”, and in between with imagination. Lots of imagination. Geeze, how many times have I flipped past Nancy Disgrace to see a bunch of talking heads going on about “I think”.
The only one who know what happened to Holloway hasn’t been seen in almost three years. You and your idiotic kind throw criminal accusations at certain people, with no proof, and then become so upset because someone accuses Holloway of being drunk and screwing men.
You’re just another effen moran who can’t think for herself. Go back to watching Nancy Grace or FOX Spews.
Mr Catshit, you sound like a little pussy hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. Brass balls you have.
This open forum is for EVERYONE, including myself, to express their opinions. You “think” what you want, and i DO think for myself TYVM. If you had read my post correctly, I never said she wasn’t on drugs, but feel as though IF there were drugs in her system, they were slipped in her drink that is MY OPINION, and I am allowed that. Let’s count the times URINE was arrested, then “got off the hook”? How many times has URINE lied? How many times have the Kalpoe brothers lied? This is NOT my opinion, that is documented PROOF. The proof of his guilt is in the video also,…I didnt THINK that one up either. As far as my tv program preferences, it’s nothing to you, but just so you know and not THINK or assume otherwise, I watch CNN..for news worldwide. You claim that only one person knows what happened to Natalee? How do you know how many people know? Has there been evidence to PROVE that?? Or is that just what you THINK? Your feeble attempt to try and insult me failed miserably. Sorry to disappoint you catshit. You can pull the claws back in now. Have a great evening.
#27, sharon,
This open forum is for EVERYONE, including myself, to express their opinions.
Hopefully with some intelligence. It is easy to see after a quick rudimentary check that you have posted on several Holloway sites. Your style is unmistakable. Geeze, I sure hope there isn’t more than one of you.
IF there were drugs in her system, they were slipped in her drink that is MY OPINION, and I am allowed that
An opinion is just like an asshole. Everyone has one. My opinion is you were dropped on your head as a baby. I can even cite evidence by using your post as an example. But to suggest someone “slipped” drugs into her drink without any evidence is stupid. You have no basis to form that “opinion”. So it isn’t an opinion. It is just a wild, small minded, piece of imagination.
An opinion needs some basis in order to be made. Just as easily I could say “in my opinion she screwed all these guys because she has some poison ivy in her labia and was trying to relieve the itch”. And that has just as much basis to be made as your “slipped drugs into her drink”.
Let’s count the times URINE was arrested, then “got off the hook”?
They tried to arrest urine but it slipped right through their fingers. OK, my bad, but a better joke than the garbage you’ve posted. Besides, I neither know nor do I care to find out what the eff this URINE is all about. A quick Google suggests you are the only one using this term.
How do you know how many people know?
I don’t. Nor do I make something up either. Or guess. Natalee Holloway is the only one that knows what happened. And neither you nor I know where she is or what has happened to her as a fact.
… I watch CNN..for news worldwide.
Suuure you do. And you watch Glenn Beck because you like his choice of ties. I confess, when I was much younger I used to read Playboy for the articles. Hey, a lot of early Stephen King short stories were first published in Playboy.
So what does Playboy and CNN have in common? Well besides the more erudite material, there is the garbage designed to appeal to the masses without taste or care. Grace and Beck fall into that latter category.
Sorry to disappoint you catshit.
That is Mister Catshit to you. Respect your elders and betters.
Who might Sharon be? Certainly not me. My name is not Sharon ty.
You obviously have me confused with another woman who you must have thrust your apparent anger on before, but that is just my opinion, based on the fact that you have done nothing but TRY to insult me leads me to believe you have NOTHING better to do than sit online all day and night posting derogatory remarks which doesnt bother me in the least, it only shows the type of man? you seem to be, which isn’t very nice at all, and one who appears in need of a LIFE. I have based MY opinions of URINE and you, based on such anger that you appear to have built up inside you, for whatever reason. Maybe that is why URINE threw wine on De Vries..he couldn’t control his anger perhaps? Is this something you would do also, in anger? or worse? You really need to maybe take anger management classes, or better yet, we offer excellent mental health services where I am employed. You can talk all the trash you want, but the fact remains we ALL have opinions and I will voice or type my opinion when and where I want. You or anyone else will not deter me in my decision to do so. Neither you nor I will probably ever know EXACTLY what happened that horrible night in the life of Natalee Holloway and the suffering she must have gone through, and the suffering her family continues to go through, but one thing is certain, URINE(yes URINE) WILL get his..one day. Last but not least, I do not call anyone MISTER OR MR, unless I respect them, and I do respect my elders, when respect is given to me, so no, you’re not MISTER anything to me. This blog is starting to smell …like..catshit, and getting way off topic. I have posted my opinion here, and you have tried to insult me from your very first post to me, and I will NOT be subject to your rants and rage. You can post all you want, whatever you want, that is your choice, but I won’t be posting back to you because you don’t seem to have a sane mind. I’d rather not converse with someone of that nature, as I have to work with this same type of people everyday on the job, and I don’t care to do this after hours. Smile sometime, it WILL make you feel better, that is a FACT, not an opinion 🙂
the dialogue above proves the point that i made in post #11. we americans, the media included, certainly can be a sorry lot. perhaps aruba should put us out of our misery and cancel all travel from the u.s. – money is not everything, pride is more important (just an opinion).