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I saw some nitty but there was very little gritty.
If only there hadn’t of been the pictorial guide for the last two elections, we could be looking at a different president right now if Bush’s folks only had the text version.
So, I’ve heard a rumor that Obama won NH primaries where paper ballots, and Clinton won NH Primaries where electronic machines were used.
http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php?party=DEMOCRATS
Not sure of the accuracy, It came through a Ron Paul Website.
It’s spelled “pictorial”.
I’ve never understood all the problems Americans have voting. The registration, the long line ups, the potential for fraud through these machines.
I don’t think Canadians are any smarter or more honest, yet we don’t have any of these issues. I have never heard of anyone having a problem casting their ballot (registration). I have never heard of any serious voting irregularities. I have never had to wait more than, oh, 30 seconds to vote. And all of our ballots are paper and pencil. And finally, the results come in within an hour or two after the polls are closed.
If there is ever a need for a recount, the paper is there and it seems to work smoothly.
Why is democracy so difficult in the US?
OK. I’ll try:
rm -rF *
or:
10 Print “Obama-Rama”
20 Goto 10
#5
One answer – Bush.
@#5
It’s difficult and problematic because the owners of this country don’t want and are scared a voting populace. That’s also why we have the electoral college, to minimize the perceived effect of individual voters.
You can read the article on not trusting voting machines in this week’s NYT Magazine: http://tinyurl.com/367gu5
Time to sign the petition: http://tinyurl.com/2sj288
Well we didn’t have these machines until people complained about punch card balloting, and the do-gooders declared COMPUTERS ARE THE ANSWER. The internet is here, we have all the answers, and we can’t afford to keep the status quo.
Eventually they may fix this, but the potential for stealing elections will be too tempting for politicians, who have been protecting their incumbency in so many ways. John McCain says he would ban negative ads if he could, and as it is they banned many types of negative ads, then they tried to extend this to 527 groups like MoveOn. On top of that they are allowed to send out mail for free, as long as it’s not political tee hee.
Still I think the vote fraud issue is diminishing, with Voter ID laws being passed in many states, and they are taking a close look at registrations to keep the dead vote down.
Hopefully they will eventually trash these machines. Optical scans of paper ballots looks like a better idea. My only concern is that the people who try to fix this will make things worse, just like last time. People need to focus on keeping a secret ballot, so no paper receipts. Also, no internet voting. And if they would shut down vote by mail and absentee ballots that would be better.
Canucklehead, in crowded, poor, deteriorated urban areas, things easily become disorganized and corrupt. A big election is hard to manage, logistically and socially, in that setting.
jim h, what makes you think that there aren’t crowded, poor, deteriorated urban areas in Canada as well? Though I have to admit that Canada is looking better every day, they have some problems that we have here in the US as well.
They DO know how to run an election. They don’t throw tech at a problem, as I all too often see, they put the PEOPLE to work on the election, counting the votes. Yeah, it’s not good for instant gratification, but it sure works better than any of these computerized solutions.
#5 – Why is democracy so difficult in the US?
Because democracy isn’t for the people… Unless the people own stock.
#10 – Voter ID laws being passed in many states, and they are taking a close look at registrations to keep the dead vote down.
They are also doing a pretty good job of keeping the poor vote and the minority vote down.
Why is democracy so difficult in the US?
It isn’t, really. You’d never know, though, according to our media.
Watch the news, but ignore the pundits.
I have been involved in at least 10 election “recounts”. You’d be surprised at what an $800/hr. lawyer can do with a simple mistake made by an 80 year old election worker who was up past their bedtime on election night.
Oh I get it. If SW4 is in the 1 position then the vote is rigged for Republican, in the 2 position, it’s Democrat.
RBG
#8
Actually the reason why we have the electoral college is due to the fact that our founding fathers were very impressed with the ancient greeks whom were oligarchs. And so too our founding fathers felt that an elite group should oversee the process of government. Not by the aristocratic model where it is handed down through lineage. But by a system of people FIT to rule being in charge.
Allowing the common man to vote would only slow down the process and cause small issues to dominate debate and proceedure.
In time the “elite” of the nation would become very very rich from their status and power and grow to what they are now, plutocrats.
Now humans LOVE a good thing. And the last thing on earth they want is to give up a GOOD thing. So the plutocrats have reformed the oligarchic principles of the forefathers, to keep them in power. Establishing a full plutocracy as we see today.
Do a check, every one of the people in all three branches and every one of the candidates running are multimillionares. We are voting for people that might make up 1 percent of the population, yet control over 80 percent of the wealth at least.
We are a plutocratic republic. And have been since the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
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If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends on It written by Hugh Hewitt
Part II is a point-by-point history of poor tactics by the Democrats. Facts are stubborn things, and the facts of history, as presented in Part II, have shown that if there is a way, the Democrats will weasel and manipulate elections to get what they want. Thus, Mr. Hewitt builds his case. 1) The DNC needs to be defeated at the polls in order to insure our survival. 2) In order to win, we need to defeat the DNC in larger numbers because they have a reputation for cheating.
Before explaining how to defeat the Democrats, you need to understand how parties and voters think, operate, and convert. This is the task of Part III. Here, Mr. Hewitt outlines the importance of parties and majorities, the five main categories of voters, and the psychology between them. Since this was the first political book I’ve read, this is where I learned the most. This is Partisan Politics 101. No matter where you stand regarding the first two parts, you can learn something here.
– AMazon.com
#13 Actually, most precincts do a very poor job of cleaning a voter list. Only wealthy areas tend to clean lists. Most clerks do not have the funds to clean voter lists.
States that tie voter lists to driver license files do not remove people until their license expires, which takes years. Really now, how else does the state know you are dead? If you don’t pay your taxes? Is the tax division allowed to share that data with the secretary of state? Probably not.
This crack me up, we start out by saying that people in Florida were too stupid to know how to punch a card and end up with this
Back on topic:
Here is my program to hack the Dibold.
1020 input “Enter how many absentee votes you want for your favorite candidate”, A
1040 input “Enter a smaller number of absentee votes for the other candidate”, B
1060 REM allow the machine to run as normal because the real abuse of an election system exists in the counting of absentee ballots.
One reason that explains the significant disparity between the polls and the final count may well be corruption of the process. It’s much cheaper to purchase the skills of a programmer than a pay for a successfully persuasive campaign.
Who benefits by a rigged machine? The analysis indicates Obama is likely to defeat any Republican. The same data posits Hillary’s negatives are too high for her to win the Presidency. Ipso facto, make sure Obama is not the Democratic candidate.
This isn’t rocket science and Hillary didn’t suddenly win New Hampshire’s heart because she choked up or became the best choice. She appeared to get more votes because the machine tally and the hand count are incongruent.
Remove Diebold from the election equation for accuracy.
I always think of the Iraq Vote a few years ago. A bottle of india ink and picture ballots would solve so any things.
Just heard from the Kucinich campaign that they are considering launching a re-count of the NH primary results.
Rigged machines…. So that’s how Gore actually got more than three votes
Also might explain Ted Kennedy being re-elected every time
Can ANYONE say….
CASE ALARM??
MOVEMENT ALARM??
cost? $2-10…
PS…2 things.
Anyone remember that Diebold, CLOSED shop and changed NAME??
Umm, do ANY of you geeks, out there have the funny IDEA that SOMEONE is making this HAPPEN, to discredit useing computers??
The solutions, I can see, are Sooo Simple, and haven’t been DONE..CHEAP solutions..
#26 You bet. And a better way to tamper with an election is to tamper with the absentee ballots. Let the machines or whatever work properly; just put garbage into the system so garbage comes out.
Funny how requiring IDs always brings up a talking point of minorities and poor people losing the vote. Some people really think they get an advantage out of no ID for voters, and stretch that talking point for all its worth.
#5, Canuckle,
I don’t think Canadians are any smarter or more honest, yet we don’t have any of these issues.
There is a simple answer to the voting issues. Canadians are smarter and more honest.
Canadian elections are nothing like American. Federal and Provincial elections only have one issue to be decided, “which candidate do you prefer”. American elections have many different offices being voted on at the same time. This creates a much larger ballot with a lot more sections.
First, you can vote for the President
Second you can vote for your Congressman.
Third, you can vote for a Senator (2 of every 3 elections)
Then fourth you might vote for your State Governor (depending upon term length)
Then you might vote for State Senator (depending upon term length)
Then you State Representative.
Then State Attorney General.
Then State Comptroller.
Then State Secretary of State.
Many States even elect their Supreme Courts.
And any other elected State official.
Then, you get to vote locally. That could include the Mayor, Reeve, County President, or other head honcho.
Then there are the local representatives such councilors, councilors at large, aldermen, and the like.
Then there are the local elected representatives such as Sheriff, Prosecutor, Judge, Clerk, Treasurer, and even dog catcher.
So you see, paper ballots get a little difficult to collate. Which is why I agree that Canadians are smarter. Almost all of these positions are best filled by appointed people responsible to the elected officials.
#29 We certainly don’t need to elect a Secretary of State or an Attorney General. I’ve always felt that was a waste and should be appointed by the Governor.
Q: So why do we, then?
A: the “Spoils” system.
P.S. Canadians have their fill of corruption, too.