OK, that second part would be because she blew her early lead and lost the nomination so he couldn’t vote for her, but he’s still pissed.
Tension in Hillaryland Grows as Plan Goes Awry
Her once-commanding advantage over Obama in Iowa and New Hampshire — the two critical initial contests — is evaporating. She has gotten the worst of recent exchanges over Iran and health care.There are also political strains with her greatest asset and surrogate, Bill Clinton. The former president was quoted last month as saying he had really opposed the invasion of Iraq from the beginning; he later claimed he was misquoted.
Top Clinton campaign officials were privately furious at the former president, saying he had revived the complaint that the Clintons lack credibility, unfairly tarnishing his wife in the process.
For his part, the former president, one close associate says, has been bouncing off the walls at the campaign’s ineptitude in the past few weeks. (It is not known if the Clintons shared any of these sentiments with each other).
“What has that woman done now?”
Maybe people are just getting to know Hillary and don’t like what they see. I think the less she opens her mouth the better her chances are.
#1–right you are. Same with Bill. Article non-specifically says he is upset with the Hilliary team at the mistakes they have made, but all the mistakes I know of were simply the Clintons showing themselves to be what we all know they are.
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With her negatives and poor showing, looks like Obama will be the candidate.
Very new and untried. Hopefully, those very attributes will avoid the worst of the Washington Insiders game==and make his vp a most important office.
Good Luck Obama.
It is encouraging that Bill is seeing the same campaign destruction that the rest of us have seen over the past couple months.
Obama is not electable. Choosing him as the Democratic candidate is conceding the presidency to the republicans.
I would like to be the first to blame her campaign woes on Bush.
#4 you are very wrong, especially when you consider the caliber of candidates the GOP is offering. Obama may be unelectable in the south, but who cares about the south anymore?
Obama is likely to win Iowa and could place close second in New Hampshire. Watch a big chunk of the Democratic lineup drop out of the race at that point, and watch the constituency move to Obama’s camp. If that includes Edwards, or a deal (Edwards for VEEP?) the John Edwards supporters have zero interest in Hillary, and combined Obama-Edwards campaign will sweep the key Feb 5th primaries.
A couple of weeks ago it was looking like Clinton vs. Giuliani, now it is looking like Obama vs. Huckabee
What I’d like to know is why the hell Bill is opening his yap at all. He had his turn at bat and was president for two full terms. So SHUT UP and let Hillary run on her own credentials… if any.
I think Bill is secretly happy to show Hillary that he’s the winner in the family. At the same time, he wants to get back in power.
#4 – Obama is not electable.
Just saying it don’t make it true. Back it up.
Why isn’t he electable?
>>Why isn’t he electable?
Oh he is. And the Obama/ Edwards team would be a landslide.
It’s just that UTH doesn’t like non-whites, so he imagines that the KKK and Aryan Nation will rise up and prevent Obama from being elected.
Obama may be unelectable in the south, but who cares about the south anymore?
Who cares about the south? Watch where the campaign dollars are spent and you will find out.
You, like a lot of other people, learned everything you know about the south from watching Gone With The Wind and Blue Collar Comedy. Your bigotry toward the south is typical and laughable. Care to guess where most blacks prefer to live? Care to guess why? I don’t know where you live, but there are more bars there where blacks can’t show their faces than there are in Atlanta, Jacksonville, New Orleans, or Birmingham.
Yankees, as we like to call you, like to pay lip service to racial equality and all that, but the evidence doesn’t show that they (you) mean it. When the upcoming primaries are over, you will see that Obama does BETTER in the south than in yankeeland. It won’t, however, be enough to overcome the reluctance of the non-black majorities to vote for an essentially UNKNOWN black man. Not going to happen, regardless of how hard you flap your lips to the contrary. Don’t take my word for it… this argument will be moot in a few months. I won’t be waiting for an apology from you, either.
Just saying it don’t make it true. Back it up.
Why isn’t he electable?
It’s the 400 pound turd in the living room floor that nobody will talk about. He is black. The majority of voters, regardless of how many rainbow stickers are on their vehicles, or how many of their co-workers or neighbors are minorities, will not vote for him. Hey, here’s an experiment: drive around your city next Sunday morning about 11:55 when the churches are getting out and note the makeup of the congregations you see streaming out the doors on their way to lunch, then get back to us on exactly how DIVERSE your sophisticated city is.
And don’t bother calling me racist; I’m not. I’m just pointing out the turd.
It’s just that UTH doesn’t like non-whites, so he imagines that the KKK and Aryan Nation will rise up and prevent Obama from being elected.
You’re a moron. I haven’t said anything that even indicates what my race IS, much less which, if any, I like or don’t like. I don’t think Hillary is electable either; does that mean I hate white people? Does it mean I hate women? Does it mean I hate southerners?
Come up with something smarter.
>>You’re a moron.
>>Does it mean…?
>>Does it mean…?
>>Does it mean…?
Yes, it means all of those things. You seem like a tightassed little bigot, unwilling to accept the idea of a woman president or a black president (or probably even a Mormon president).
You have to admit, though, “we” had no problem “electing” a cretin as president.
If the Republicans nominate Huckabee, they will basically be giving up the election. (America likes its presidents to have religious faith, but they don’t like them to be in your face religious). If they nominate Rudy, chances are very high they’ll win. (The Republican base will make their peace and he’ll soak up a lot of the soft middle). On the Democratic side: Hillary loses to Rudy for sure (she’s polarizing, and Rudy gives the dissatisified a reasonable alternative). Obama? Hard to say. He’s really an empty suit, but that doesn’t mean he can’t win. Edwards? He’s slick, and that’s about it. He’d be a perfect choice…for the REPUBLICANS. If Edwards is on the ticket, the Republicans get a second lightning rod, while Edwards brings almost NOTHING that to the Democratic table.
As much as I can’t believe I’m saying this, I think the Democrats best option is Hillary, with someone keeping a very tight leash on Bill during the campaigns (if that’s possible!)
Probably the best ticket the Democrats can offer (acknowledging that Hillary isn’t ever going to take Obama on as VP) is something like Clinton + Richardson.
If I had to bet the house right now, I’d take Rudy against any of the Democrats, and I’d take any of the Democrats against Huckabee. I’d take any of the other viable Republicans (Romney, McCain) against Edwards.
You seem like a tightassed little bigot, unwilling to accept the idea of a woman president or a black president (or probably even a Mormon president).
If I “seem” like any of that on the basis of what’s I’ve said, you’re either an idiot or an asshole, or both.
If you disagree, please quote specifically what I said and why that makes me “seem” anything at all.
“drive around your city next Sunday morning about 11:55 when the churches are getting out and note the makeup of the congregations you see streaming out the doors on their way to lunch, then get back to us on exactly how DIVERSE your sophisticated city is.”
Black, Korean, Spanish… in that order approximately. Minor amount of Vietnamese and other Asian people too. Not too many white people.
So… what was your point exactly?
Whoever wins the presidential election will realize that you need more than 4 years to fix the mess Bush Jr. has created.
Ubiquitous Talking Head said, Obama is not electable. Choosing him as the Democratic candidate is conceding the presidency to the republicans.
Since you like making stuff up, you should apply for a job at Fox News!
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Giuliani and Obama in Toss-up; Obama Leads Thompson by Seven
Sunday, December 02, 2007
With the first caucuses and primaries of Election 2008 only weeks away, a new Rasmussen Reports survey of potential general-election bouts shows Senator Barack Obama (D) and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) neck-and-neck, with Obama barely ahead 43% to 41%. In the same poll, Obama moderately leads former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson 48% to 41%.
Obama has had a single-digit lead over Giuliani in seven out of nine Rasmussen Reports election polls conducted since July. The contest seems to have grown even tighter in recent polling. In late October, Giuliani led by two points but he trailed by two in mid-November.
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Clearly, if you think Obama is “not electable” then you believe the same about every GOP front runner!
UTH is full of it. Obama’s weakness, if any, is that he’s fairly young. If he has a competent VP like Richardson (whom I met years ago when he was a congressman, and whom I liked–very down to earth), that could help a LOT.
I don’t care if a president goes to church or not, but I won’t vote for any presidential candidate that wears his/her religion on their sleeve (Romney, Huckabee).
I prefer moderate candidates, as I consider any ideology to be a poor substitute for actually thinking about a problem and solving it.
Bill owes Hillary big time after the Lewinsky affair. Once she’s lost the nomination they will split up for good.
Why does he owe Hillary? It’s not like this was the only affair, or the only one she knew about. By 1998, I imagine she must be used to it. And I doubt Monica was the last.
#15, UTH,
It isn’t what you said, it is the “tone” of what you said.
It isn’t what you said, it is the “tone” of what you said.
I’ll try to turn down the treble a little.
Black, Korean, Spanish… in that order approximately. Minor amount of Vietnamese and other Asian people too. Not too many white people.
I didn’t mean “who goes to church?”
I meant “try looking for a racially diverse congregation.”
Giuliani and Obama in Toss-up; Obama Leads Thompson by Seven
Don’t just look at the polls; read what the pollsters say. For an issue as sensitive as race, people don’t poll the same way they vote.
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But it is also true that the expression of racist attitudes is less socially acceptable now than in the past. This may lead some people to tell pollsters that they are more tolerant than they actually are.
– pewresearch.org
Can we predict the exact results of the Iowa caucuses ahead of time? The answer is simple: no. But that is not the purpose of political polling. As I mentioned earlier, there is no way to predict the neighbor-to-neighbor dynamic inside a caucus setting, and especially the effect that setting will have on those caucus-goers who show up to the events yet undecided. – zogby.com
Some Democrats have expressed concerns about the former first lady’s electability in a race against Republicans. The survey showed Clinton not performing as well as Obama and Edwards among independents and younger voters, pollster John Zogby said.
While this is certainly a theme of recent reporting, boosted by a pre-Thanksgiving ABC/WP poll showing Obama leading Clinton in Iowa, it is striking that no other poll has found recent results as far from the trend estimates as are Zogby’s results and that the Reuters story fails to note that fact.
– pollster.com
I don’t see how anyone can accuse me of being racist when all I’m doing is pointing out that the average white (i.e. majority of U.S. citizens) are hypocritical on race issues. They talk the talk, but they don’t walk the walk.
Read anything you want into what I say, however.
Obama is one of the few blacks that white Democrats have selected in a primary. Then again that was a statewide race against multiple opponents, so the black vote may have been enough. Generally in Congressional races, black Democrats select blacks, and white Democrats select whites.
If that translates to Iowa, then Obama will be nowhere.