Associated Press – November 8, 2007:
Founded 240 years ago, this sleepy Texas town along the Rio Grande has outlasted the Spanish, then the Mexicans and then the short-lived independent Republic of Texas. But it may not survive the U.S. government’s effort to secure the Mexican border with a steel fence.
A map obtained by The Associated Press shows that the double- or triple-layer fence may be built as much as two miles from the river on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande, leaving parts of Granjeno and other nearby communities in a potential no-man’s-land between the barrier and the water’s edge.
Local residents, many of whom have put “No Border Wall” signs on their cars and in their yards, say they have been assured they will be compensated at fair market value for any property taken by the U.S. government. But that has not given them much comfort.
You know, 2000 years ago, the Romans built Hadrian’s wall without even having electricity. It was awesome.
And now the best we can do is these crappy jumpable little fences?
#34 – If we simply captured the immigrants and enslaved them, we could build walls like the Romans or the Chinese…
Slave labor is cost effective.
Some historians reckon that slave labour is more expensive than wage labour, because you have to feed and shelter them year round…. which is why slavery was eventually abolished…. (well, that and the very hard work of various anti-slavery groups)
The REAL problem is that Big Business with help from the Bush Regime, is shipping off all the jobs to the Communist Chinese. Now mexican factories are closed down and they’re coming HERE to work.
Thanks Nixon, you a-hole. If you would have left the commies along in 72, their dictatorship would have collapsed by now, but you’ve unintentionally created a Chinese empire, thanks a lot.
#23, Awake,
How much do you think lettuce and strawberries would cost were it not for the low cost labor that these people provide? Multiply that by virtually every crop and see what you come up with.
Isn’t that the same argument used by Wal-Mart (and others) to justify sourcing from China? Just ask all the unemployed textile workers how much they are saving.
Illegal immigration is not THE problem. You are quite correct. They are part of the overall problem though that has gripped this country since about 1980. There has been a gradual marginalizing of the middle class workers with the power shifting to the employers and large corporations. The larger the labor force, the less wages need to be paid. Only this philosophy has eroded the domestic customer base.
It is time for Americans to take back our country.
# 32 touche’ I am going to have to read and study your document in total.
I still say if we remove the illegal immigrants, the so called big business will have to pay a market wage for the labor that the illegals skew down and in doing so we solve the min wage issue and the immigration issue.
the Illegals don’t do work American wont do they do work Americans wont do for that wage
>How much do you think lettuce and strawberries would cost were it not for the low cost labor that these people provide?
One study estimated that lettuce would go up about 5 cents a head. I’m in horror at the prospect.
As for the study that Arizona nets one billion, most of those studies tend to conflate legal immigrants and illegal immigrants where ever convenient.
Even if the study is right, and Arizona gains one billion dollars from illegal immigrants, that’s less than one half of one percent of the state economy, and for this people have to accept all these cultural changes?
Well lets see……If they build a fence then in 50 years they can make a big deal..by tearing it down like the BERLIN WALL!!!!!!!….GOOD GOD….DIDNT WANT TO BELIEVE IT..BUT THERE ARE ..STUPID PEOPLE…WE DON’T NEED A FENCE !!!!!..AND DON’T USE THAT CRAP ABOUT HOME LAND SECURITY!!!!….IT DID NOT STP THE TRADE BUILDINGS FROM BEING DESTROYED AND THOUSANDS DEAD!!!!!…THEY USED OUR OWN COMMERCIAL PLANES!!!!!!!! GET A GRIP AMERICA… LEAVE THE SMALL BORDER TOWNS ALONE…YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE A FAR PRICE FOR THE LAND THEY HAVE HAD FOR GENERATIONS!!!!!
You try living in a town for so long and now you find out that your hometown is being destroyed! imagine how these people feel… Do you have any feelings?