Just try to evict us!
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles is selling a convent that has housed an order of nuns for more than four decades to help pay for a record-breaking sex abuse settlement.
Three nuns from the Sisters of Bethany order have until December 31 to move out, though an earlier departure “would be acceptable as well,” the archdiocese’s vicar general said in a letter to the nuns.
“We’re just so hurt by this,” said Sister Angela Escalera, the order’s local superior. “And what hurts the most is what the money will be used for, to help pay for the pedophile priests. We have to sacrifice our home for that?”
Stone Age morality triumphs, again.
Pray, Pay, Obey… and yes, I’m a Catholic…
The church should allow priests to marry.
Great visual on this one.
#1 – bill,
I’m not. And, yes, nuns too. Perhaps priests should marry nuns. I don’t think the nun’s marriage vows to Jesus are valid anyway. The guy is dead. He can’t say ‘I do.’
Making the totally innocent – females, incidentally – pay the punishment levied on the totally guilty – males perverts, also incidentally – is primitive sexism in service to so-called “religious justice”.
I’m so sure the Creator of the Universe signed off on this…
I sorry Catholics but evil is lurking in your faith. Preist that are allowed to continue in the church even after they have performed sexual acts on children no less. Then to have the Pope stick his head in the sand on the whole issue. The preisthood is just one big boys club with everyone covering each others backs. This is a discrace to religion everywhere! Why do we shun preditors who want to live near us, but forgive the very people that we most trusted who betrayed us.
Catholics seem to have blinders on when it come to the church.
With evil all over people need to wake up and question everyone.
Even the people in their church.
RE: photo
Mother Superior, jump the gun.
J/P=?
Fair enough. Now can someone point me to a Islam Post on this blog
That photo alone is priceless — those nuns appear to be from the highly respected order, “Our Lady of Holy Winchester.”
“Oh Lord, we pray thy blessing on these bulltets. May they find their mark, and never jam or misfire. Amen.”
A Monty Pythonesque skit could practically write itself.
The good thing about choosing to live a simple life, as the nun have, is that you don’t need much….
Yeah, a crucifix, a rifle and a goofy hat and you’re good-to-go… 🙂
Their only design imperative for the goofy hat was to not out-goofy the Pope. That left plenty of leeway 😉
How do you get a nun pregnant? Dress her up as an alter boy.
#1 – I assume you mean priests should be allowed to marry each other? Uh, this is my wife, Father Bob. I pitch, he catches.
Glad to see there is a god.
Yet another step in the evolution of the universal church.
I don’t understand what everyone is so upset about…
This is obviously Gods will. Who are we to question Gods will or His plan?
Well, they have to make room for more pedophile priests.
rape an altar boy, get a transfer. divorce and remarry, get excommunicated.
makes perfect sense to me.
Coming this fall Nun Squad pray they are on you side.
The priests who are convicted in a criminal court of wrong-doing should go to jail. The standard of proof for a civil case is much lower than criminal, and the money is much better. I’m sorry you were touched inappropriately as a child, and you didn’t have the strength of character to overcome that. Is US$3million going to help or just send you to your grave faster? (How many winners of large lottery jackpots go bankrupt?) That money could be used for useful things, including better screening for priests, and perhaps a class for clergy on CYA (never be alone with a boy, never hug a boy, even if he’s crying, never compliment him on his confirmation suit…never do anything that could be someone’s jackpot lawsuit 29 years from now.)
Those nuns are being tossed out because of money, not because of sex (real or otherwise).
#4:”Catholics seem to have blinders on when it come to the church. With evil all over people need to wake up and question everyone. Even the people in their church.”
Lemme tell you something. I’m a Catholic. I see the evil in my church. It makes me ashamed to call myself a Catholic. They don’t get one red cent of my cash.Many many Catholics no longer support church-sponsored charities, because they know the money will simply go to pay lawsuits and pedophile priests’ salaries.
What the hell good does it do to question the people in my church when they’re the ones committing these evil acts? The Catholic church is definitely a “top-down” organization. Edicts, decrees and orders come from the top and filter down. The average person (the ‘laity’) is at the bottom of the totem pol. We are told constantly that it is not our place to question those in authority, yet we are obliged to financially support the church. Failure to obey is grounds for mortal sin and damnation to hell.
In short, shut up and do as we’re told or else.
I no longer wonder why the church is constantly on a mission for new members. It’s not for souls as we were taught in school. It’s for new income sources.
It’s got nothing to do with “Stone Age morality”. It’s just the same “good old boy” protectionism at work. It’s the same whether it’s priests, doctors, lawyers, or politicians. They all look out for each other, and in some cases, for other professionals. But it’s “screw u” time for the nuns, the nurses, the legal secretaries, etc. The “chosen ones” protect their own, first. And if they didn’t, there wouldn’t be much incentive for new members to join them. So professions protect their members, to protect their future. Unfortunately, the church doesn’t consider nuns as irreplaceable, as priests. Or provide any retirement plan for nuns, other than dying in a convent of old age. Yet the church always has a place to hid disgraced priests. It’s medieval, not stone-aged.
OvenMaster, do what you think is right – but personally, I wouldn’t be able to remain a Catholic after the shit that has gone down w/ the pedophile priests…
Catholic = someone who believes the tenets of the Catholic Church.
Tenets of Catholicism include that the Pope is holy, and that he is chosen by God to be His representative on Earth. What issues from the Pope’s mouth is God’s Word.
If you’re Catholic, you believe that; if you do not believe that – you are, by definition, not a Catholic. No amount of doubletalk or rationalization can change that.
But such is the power of a cult to brainwash children, who become adults who couldn’t break with Catholicism if they saw the Pope himself performing a Black Mass and sacrificing babies in Madison Square Garden…
I applaud those with the courage to say ‘That’s it. I’m outta here.’ If only there were more of them.
Those who accept the tenets of and support the Catholic Church are as culpable of corruption, emotional, sexual and soul abuse. Can have no pity where there was no resistance to the truth. There is only one truth.
I’m what’s known as the third option: a “cafeteria Catholic”. I don’t blindly do as I’m told, I don’t blindly obey, but I believe in a lot of the teachings. I pick and choose. I use logic and intelligence, even being prone to mistakes. Works for me… if I’m wrong, well, I’ll find out later!
I do believe the Pope is Jesus’ representative on earth, but I do not believe the Pope to be infallible. Vatican Council I in 1870 declared the Pope and his successors infallible in areas of faith and morals? Please. That’s the height of arrogance. The Pope is human and therefore prone to error. And that includes things that he says, even supposedly as God’s representative on earth.
There you go – the exact thing I referred to.
Like I said, do whatever imparts buoyancy to your watercraft – but you cannot claim to simultaneously “be a Catholic” and yet reject the very defining beliefs of Catholicism.
A Catholic is a person who, among other things, DOES believe the Pope is, as God’s Mouthpiece, utterly infallible. And a person who disbelieves that is not, no matter what they claim, a real Catholic.
You either accept the beliefs, in which case you belong to the group that believes those things – or you reject them. Rejecting even one tenet of a religion places you outside that religion.
You say you don’t accept certain official teachings of the Catholic Church? Then you are whatever you are – but you are not in any way, shape or form a Catholic, since a Catholic is someone who DOES accept Catholic teaching. You can correctly assume the label “dissenting Catholic”, but that still places you outside of the Church, because the tenets of the Church do not permit dissent. It’s not a popularity contest, and it’s not a democracy. It’s what the leaders say it is. Picking and choosing is not an option – except for Unitarians, of course. 🙂
By your ‘logic’ I can say that I don’t believe Xenu ever existed, I think the E-Meter is a load of crap, and that L Ron Hubbard was a fraud – and then claim “But I’m still a Scientologist.” Just another way of saying “yes = no”, “black = white” or “up = down”.
Methinks you need to display love for mankind and the world at large through standing up to arrogant, corrupt power.
You and those like you are the problem.
1) My church is very fallible and creates great harm to others.
2) But I’m afraid if I speak up I’ll go to Hell.
Grow up — this is the lie of the sickest humans.
Lauren the Ghoti, I can see your point…to a point. I am a Catholic and at this moment none too happy with the Church. But I AM going to say picking and choosing IS an option. Because I can and will think for myself, and if anything, I will speak up for what is right and what is wrong. The Catholic Church has been wrong before and is wrong this time. But as a Catholic I can and will THINK and I can and will speak up. The laity in the American Church can make a difference. I do NOT have to agree with everything in the Catholic church for my faith to matter just as I do NOT have to agree with everything that our President of the US tells me to be a good American citizen. I do NOT have to be a Republican or a Democrat to be a good Christian… etc… But this is just plain wrong what has happened and I hope that Catholics everywhere will strongly protest this injustice. Change can only happen if people refuse to remain silent. So to never question, always accept, may be what the hierarchy wants, but it ain’t gonna happen… the Pope is NOT always infallible anyway according to the teaching of the Church, and it is just as dangerous to fall into an inappropriate obedience. If the Pope is always infallilble then throughout history each would have been making identical decisions and there would have been no change whatsoever! The Catholic Church has a Justice and Peace Office and you can bet there are some fine and strong thinking Catholics who are looking at this issue pretty darned hard. I don’t know if I will stay. But it will be a personal decision and if I stay it will not be to blindly agree but to continue to work for justice.