Zahav (R) visits scene to “bless the person who set the fire”

A commercial crematorium in Israel has been heavily damaged by fire, hours after its secret location was revealed in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper.

The crematorium near Tel Aviv opened two years ago to fierce criticism from Israel’s orthodox community.

Yehud Meshi Zahav told Israeli Army Radio he thought an arson attack on the crematorium would be justified. “It was an illegal activity, a desecration of the dead and I applaud the destruction of this building, which was destined to disappear in flames.”

What is it with religion nutters and their obsession with fire?



  1. Mister Mustard says:

    >>A grand attempt at antiatheist, antirationalist propaganda
    >>and trolling for someone just out of troll school!

    Don’t they make some kind of medicine for that kind of paranoia, ghotistick?

  2. Mister Mustard says:

    >>Do you think an atheist would “curse God”? How can
    >>you curse something you don’t believe in?

    Shit. I didn’t know that was one of the rules. I frequently say “fuck a duck”, but I don’t worship ducks. I know that some here worship ghoti, but I’m not one of them. They’re too scaly.

  3. god says:

    #27 – if you can’t get up to Mustard’s level of illogic, stick with lying.

    Do you realize you said that not stating someone’s belief means he must have that belief? So, if I don’t say you’re an ignorant, ill-educated, illogical twerp – that’s what you must be.

    That might be fun – but, legitimate debate or discussion – no.

  4. RBG says:

    34 for 29 doug.

  5. ECA says:

    What I see, is that MANY who decry against Religion are those that UNDERSTAND it better, and see those IN IT, NOT practicing it. And then are dissuaded in becoming AS those they are going to church with.

    I dont want to become a hypocrite…Such as I see in many religions..
    What i have BEEN FORCED to read, has told me what I need to know. And i STILL see many NOt practicing WHAT they preach.

    I asked a person that came to my door.
    Do you preach in the Middle east?
    they said yes..
    i asked if they Teach in the middle east, as the Literacy rate is so low.
    They said yes.
    I then suggested…
    They Go and teach them to READ, and then have them READ there OWN religion…

    THAt alone caused such a stir in the European and Britian lands that NOW the Public/Rabble could REAd the bible. that Many NEW ideas came to religion..AND CHOICES.

    If you wish to believe in Christ, you MUSt DUMP about 1/2 the bible as its from the Jewish faith and RELEARN, what he has said.
    Forget Moses, abraham, Issac, and the rest.
    If you just wish to believe in GOD…START with the hebrew, THEN add Christ…And go from there.

  6. Yack says:

    Yack yack yack…

    I think any of these people who are caught red-handed — as in, they’re intercepted driving a truckload of primed bombs; or they’re observed or found frequenting in a storehouse full of similar weaponry — they should be video-recording being publicly burned at the stake. Then, edit in clerics of all religions condemning this sort of activity, then put the video on a {U.N.-owned} public website like http://www.freedomtube.com (strip ownership away from the current loser camper).

    We HAVE to meet them on equal ground. They’re going to do something horrific. If we let them know we’ll do something equally horrific to them (and their known accomplices), they might reconsider diplomacy. YES, WE, as civilized society, would be “sinking to their level” — if it’s a means to an end, it should be considered.

    Dude, that’s harsh…

  7. ECA says:

    I KNOW what we can do….
    EVERY person that DOES NOT abid by his OWN faith, should be taken out and shot.
    For every Christian That carries a Hand gun…
    For every Jew that Eats PORK..
    For each one that does NOT goto church.
    For Any of those religions, that say “IF YOU GOOF UP, you should be HURT”.
    IF they GOOF UP, WE HURT THEM.

  8. paperweight says:

    ‘obsession with fire?”

    How about their obsession with anything anyone else is doing.

    God protect me from your followers!

  9. TIHZ_HO says:

    “The man cursed God…”

    “Therefore the actor in this incident believes in God.”

    So if I say “Holy Shit!”

    I then must believe in Shit…

    OH SHIT! 😉

    Cheers

  10. TIHZ_HO says:

    For each one that does NOT goto church.

    Where exactly does it spell out the going to church bit?

    Cheers

  11. doug says:

    #34. “One leading theory comes from Norris and Inglehart (2004), who argue that in societies characterized by plentiful food distribution, excellent public healthcare, and widely accessible housing, religiosity wanes.”

    In other words, those blessed with abundance tend to reject religion. I wonder how religiosity correlates with educational levels?

  12. Lauren the Ghoti says:

    Very well indeed, certainly – 0.75 or better. Graph religiosity against IQ and clustered at the bottom IQs are evangelicals / YECs / Biblical literalists; persons exhibiting lower-than-average IQs are the most religious and greatly tend to belong to organized sects which put a premium on authoritarianism and strongly discourage independent thought; at the high end are clustered those who profess atheism and agnosticism. The minority of persons with IQs above ~135 who do profess to hold any form of religious or spiritual belief almost invariably have their own individual, independently-arrived-at views and reject the prescribed ideologies of organized sects, especially those centered on anthropomorphic deities.

    All of which is as one would expect. No surprises.

    MM and other evasive apologists for religion believe that the strong, long-established correlation between intelligence and rejection of irrational beliefs either is a coîncidence or does not exist.

    They may be right; just look at all the PhDs in Ernest Angley’s audience, for example. 😉

  13. TIHZ_HO says:

    They may be right; just look at all the PhDs in Ernest Angley’s audience, for example. 😉

    My “something-that-cannot-be-proven-ether-way-so-I-pay-it-no-attention” we agree on something!

    Cheers

  14. Rob R says:

    RBG,
    There is nothing in articles you presented that showed he claimed to be an atheist. So, clearly, you leaped to a conclusion.

    You’re confused about problems of the human condition:

    Your point #27: Citing communist genocide as prima facia evidence of the consequences of atheism will only get you in trouble. Christian America supported Negro slavery and slaughter for hundreds of years. Does that mean the fruits of Christianity are slavery & slaughter.

    Nazis burned Jews in synagogues, specifically in Riga, Latvia based on antisemitism with roots in Catholicism. So, is the Church responsible for the Holocaust? Obviously, not. The criminals who did it were.

    Correlation doesn’t mean “no exceptions”, pulling-out several outliers one way or another is meaningless. Learn some statistics.

    Your willingness to bend truth & logic to your doctrine is truly astonishing. Reminds me of what the Nazis and communists used to do…

  15. Lauren the Ghoti says:

    Well, Rob R, they also twist things to smear atheism – Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, these guys went after the churches NOT because they were believers in any deity or deities, but because they were the only ubiquitous social structures that stood in the way of Communism, which, last I checked, was a political system and not a religious sect.

    But religious sects of believers in deities that have slaughtered members of other sects of believers are more numerous than you can count…

    Very inconvenient for the desperate religionists who struggle mightily and in vain to find inhumane acts by nonbelievers – done in the name of nonbelief, not out of purely political motives – that even begin to compare to the horrific acts of self-righteous believers throughout history.

    It remains true that people who can justify believing in irrational things can justify ANY irrational act, since rationality – sanity – is unimportant to them. Atheists are atheists because it’s rational to be rational. Unlike religionists, they don’t coerce others to change their beliefs – because, just like believing in a mythical deity that “approves” of inhuman acts, that’s NOT rational.

  16. RBG says:

    45. I’ve answered these kinds of charges in DU before citing good sources. Mao and Stalin were atheists, leading atheistic movements that stood for the annihilation of religion in their respective domains. Check out your history.

    RBG

  17. Rev Spitz says:

    Sex perverted homosexuals burn Christian Churches. People who hate Christians, like the one that wrote this article and spread their hate are somewhat responsible. Morally if not legally.
    Most, if not all problems on the planet earth are from people like you, people who reject Jesus Christ. Our prisons are filled with people, like you, who reject Jesus Christ. Most, if not all; rapes, murders, robberies and thefts are committed by people, like you, who reject Jesus Christ. AIDS is mainly spread by people who reject Jesus Christ and have sex outside of marriage. Children AIDS get it from people who reject Jesus Christ.
    I hope you will turn from your sins and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and escape the fires of eternal hell. Turning from your sins and giving your life to Jesus Christ is the only way you can escape the fires of hell and receive everlasting life. If you persist in your sins and continue to turn your back on Jesus Christ, you will be lost forever.
    SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.


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