A british comedian gives his thoughts in regards to the spread of Islam in Europe. Have a look and see how much you agree with what he says. You can visit his website here. For what it’s worth, the situations he describes are true, however, it is up to you to see if you agree with what he says.
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Nice link, #27 Micromike. And lest it go unnoticed, the genocide that Philip Atkinson is advocating is part of the fulfillment of GWB’s duty to himself, his country, and his God. That article is just an important reminder that not all Christians have turned their backs on the violence that many of them claim is entirely in the distant Christian past.
Some of them are looking for an encore.
Wow.
Where do I sign-up to be a “ditto head” for this guy.
Thanks for letting me know about his postings. Good stuff.
lol Mike Voice, I was thinking along the very same lines. Possibly for the first time in my life, I would willingly be a shameless dittohead for Pat Condell.
All I ask is that we don’t have to wear silly hats đ
John C.
The link that he has on his website is under the words “senseless violence” on his front page and takes you to a DU post from last month:
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6185
Maybe he discovered DU before DU discovered him. Perhaps he has even been one of the regulars. It is nice to know that some very interesting people are reading the DU postings.
#27 – Micromike – …the christian fundamentalists are just as bad and I refer to the people who want George Bush to be President For Life.
Thanks for the link. Notice on the page that propaganda hasn’t changed much since 65 years ago. The determined look to fulfill the prophecy…
#35 – Myself
Now, that link didn’t work if you’ve got referrer logging enabled… I tried to do a direct link to an image referenced on this page under the caption “The text of this 1940 poster reads: “Youth Serves the FĂźhrer. All 10-year-olds into the Hitler Youth.” Membership in the Hitler Youth had become mandatory in 1936.“.
#25 – Mark T.
“Move over, Christopher Hitchens and George Carlin. There is a new atheist in town.”
You forgot Julia Sweeney, me lad.
Whilst I agree with all Pat Condell says and agree that we in Europe have to keep our wits about us, I do not worry too much about the long term future.
As I see it, it will become a race between reason and myth. We are educating âtheirâ kids to become thinkers faster than they can make un-thinking converts and in the long term reason will win. Yes OK the first and second generations are where the fanatics are currently being formed but the third generation onwards are starting to realise that the old religion their parents are teaching them is a load of old bolocks. Year by year reason is winning. Yes, there will be set backs. Yes, like Pat we have to be constantly on our guard but the percentage of educated non-theists rises each year faster than converts to theism.
Keep the lack of faith!
Slatts
Lauren,
Julia Sweeney of SNL fame, eh? I will have to check her out. Thanks for the tip!
Yes, that’s her – and being Irish (duh!), what with the upbringing, the family pressure and such, facing reality about “God” certainly wasn’t easy for her…
I am a Muslim, and I see this man as ignorant and blinded by the media. I am deeply offended, and I hope he eats his words one day.
Well, my friend, he sees you as ignorant and blinded by superstition.
Tell us, are you “deeply offended” by your fellow Muslims slaughtering innocent human beings in the name of Islam?
#42 Lauren, you poor, misguided scrag! *
Any good Muslim following would be deeply offendedâ by your fellow Muslims slaughtering innocent human beings in the name of Islam
The comment Ninja made is not indicative of a good Muslim as the they would not make a comment like that at all.
* Tag inspired by Dan Aykroyd and Jane Jane Curtin from “Weekend Update – Point Counterpoint” Original Cast SNL đ
http://tinyurl.com/229dtv
Cheers
“Before somebody decides to call me racist…” Oh gee, gosh darn it, I was just about to do that! Can you imagine that? Because this f&*khead is no less racist than the whiny American conservative b**tches who complain about how America is being or has been eroded by blacks and hispanics and who knows who else. Welcome to the real world, Europe! America has grappled with immigration of evil “furriners” and the brutish boobs of the KKK and the Identity CHRISTIAN movement who hated them for “taking their jobs”. B*tch b*tch b*tch whine whine whine! Now the “old” world has to face what the new has dealt with for over a century. Would this yahoo really stand up not just to those bugabooed scary raping hand-chopping Muslims but to the Christian idiots who also wish to squash personal freedom (but who have better advertising and propaganda units and are better entrenched in his little so-called continental culture)? Of course he wouldn’t, he’s a p*ssy. It’s easy to “take on” the awful Muslims. They’re an easy target and his kind only takes on easy targets so he can preach to the converted (the only ones who would listen to likes of him). Yes, this jerk IS a bigot, he IS an a**hole, and deserves to be called such. Now, can we get back to the issue of what to do about the influx of immigration into Europe and how you silly Europeans achieve the kind of assimilation we Americans have somehow managed to achieve. Ptooey! This guy is a “comedian” only in the unintentional sense.
BRAVO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every word this man said is the TRUTH!
Islam should not be practiced in the west. It is a barbaric violent culture.
Go back to your desert.
#45 – “Lol Roflmao”
Is that so? How nice. If there’s something worse than a brainwashed PC bozo with the endless-loop of “racist-racist-racist-racist” spewing from his fucking pie-hole, it’s one that’s smugly arrogant about his idiotic ideological parrotings.
That said, now you can fuck off, you grotty little wanker.
That sound you hear, pedro, is me, quaking in my boots… đ
Lauren the Ghoti, you’re a riot. (Well, you might start one with your lopsided thinking). Let’s point fingers at Islam and make a special case out of it but ignore the centuries of crap we’ve endured at the hands of Christians. You don’t see your grotty little wanker “comedian” friend talking about closing the churches, do you? Of course not, he’s a p*ssy, like all you new age neocon’s are at heart. Sure, he gave lip service to the idea that “all religion is bad”, whoop de doo! How bold! What a cool rebel atheist he is!
I wasn’t in a loop saying “racist-racist-racist-racist”, I said the word once, because that’s exactly what your comedian friend deserves. To deny that the horror expressed by western dweebs like yourself about Islam is racist is pathetic: since it is lopsided and singles out one particular group and refuses to acknowledge the same kinds of attitudes and practices in your own backyard, not from awful “immigrants” but from your own local ethnic group, that is racist, by definition.
These “third-worlders” with their “barbaric” practices are bloody awful you say, but where is the outrage at common Euro-Mediterranean CHRISTIAN treatment of women and minorities and marginalized people like gays that STILL goes on? Yeah, those awful backward Muslims, yeah right.
I love it when Europeans are defended in this way, it’s just so funny. Eurotrash bigots like this flunky here lack any perspective on the “problems” of immigration, they are only NOW beginning to experience what America has been through the mill on in its own culture for more than a century and a half. Yet Europeans are perceived as more “cultured” and more “worldly” than us stupid Americans! Yukyukyukyukyuk! Europeans only wish they had the depth of cultural experience to understand immigration and assimilation as we Americans have experienced. The problem there is that the entrenched localized racisms are so entrenched they aren’t even noticed as such, and those who deride these attitudes as racist are… well, to quote our Fishy friend Lauren, called “brainwashed PC bozos”.
Read my lips: your “comedian” friend is a racist, and he’s praised by numbnutzes like you for being such, because the “new” enlightened attitude is to “acknowledge” that certain racisms are OK, the easy targets (as always) can be called barbaric and animalistic and subhuman, but heaven forbid someone should call someone on the continent “Eurotrash!” THAT’S racism! How dare you!
Pedro, you’re right. Someone did get pissed: the wanker “comedian” who thinks his racist rants (that are no better than those of any other white-power bigot) are “reasonable” because he intellectualizes his rationalized hate, and those headnodders who sheepishly agree with that rationalization.
I guess it’s OK when Eurotrash get pissed. (Remember, to THEM “getting pissed” means guzzling on Guinness–which is probably what happened just before this Mick a*hole recorded his little rant anyway.) But when someone stands up and asks “is this any different than Jew-smearing or any other kind of race-baiting?” well, that’s just a brainwashed PC bozo talking. Yukyukyukyuk!
What’s that you say? I shouldn’t call him a “Mick a*hole”, that’s horrible of me? No, you don’t understand, I have documentation of all the bad things Irish people have ever done, so I’m justified in saying that. See, it’s fine!
Get it yet?
(Just in case you were wondering, the Roflmaos are a proud Irish family from Cork County, so I’m using an epithet on my own kind, dig? I know, you’re yawning and you don’t care, you’re too busy “documenting” how Muslims are subhuman. I’ll let you get back to that now…)
These Sunni and Shia clerics follow sectarian Islam that relies on hadiths for 95% of its jurisprudence. Hadiths were “compiled” 2 to 3 centuries after the prophet. Each sects have hadiths that refutes the other. The prophet never left behind him any hadiths. The only text the prophet and the 4 caliphs left behind and spread was the Koran.
The Koran gave COMPLETE freedom for anyone. I mean anyone so long as the person does not commit violence.
The Quran(Koran) Concerning other monotheist faiths:
Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin good and forbid wrong; and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are God fearing. 3:113-115
And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. 3:199
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . 2:62
Say: “O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God. 3:64
And they say: “None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.” Those are their (vain) desires. Say: “Produce your proof if ye are truthful.”Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Jews say: “The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: “The Jews have naught (To stand) upon.” Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. 2.111-113
If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female – and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them 4.124
The Quran(Koran) Concerning who we fight or don’t:
As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers. 60:8-9
Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, âOur Lord is God.â 22:39-40
The Quran(Koran) Concerning freedom:
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
16:82 But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message .
6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.
4:79-80 Say:’Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper.”
11:28 He (Noah) said “O my people! think over it! If I act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°
17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe …. Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.
21:107-109 (O Prophet?) ‘We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:” Declare, “Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?’ But if they turn away then say, “I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour is near or far.”
22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord. You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, `God best knows what you do.”
24.54. Say: “Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger’s duty is only to preach the clear (Message).
88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
36:16 17 (Three Messengers to their people) Said, “Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.’
39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.
42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ….
64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.
67:25 26 And they ask, “When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?” Say, “The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner.”
The Quran(Koran) concerning justice:
“And among His signs are the creation of the heaven and earth, and the variation in your language and your colors; verily in that are signs for those who know” (30:22).
“Satan seeks only to cast among you enmity and hate”(5:91).
O you who believe! Stand out for justice, as witnesses to God, and even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be rich or poor. An-Nisaaâ 4:134
“O you who believe! Be the maintainers of justice and bearers of witness for God’s sake though it be against your own self, parents and relatives” (4:135).
“O you mankind! We have created you from a single pair of male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you know each other. Verily the most honored in the sight of God is the one who is most righteous” (49:13).
O you who believe! Stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety and fear God, for God is well acquainted with all that you do. 5:8
And thus We made of you a justly balanced community that you might bear witness to humankind and the Apostle might bear witness over you. 2:143
O you who believe, observe your duty to God with right observance, and die not except in a state of submission (to Him). And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of God, and do not separate, and remember God’s favor unto you: how you were enemies and He put love between your hearts so that you became as brothers by His grace: and how you were upon the brink of a fire and He saved you from it. Thus God makes clear His revelations unto you so that you may be guided” (3:102-103).
“The believers are nothing else other than brothers, Thus make peace between your brethren and observe your duty to God that you may haply receive His mercy” (49: 1 0).
The Quran(Koran) Concerning propagation:
Invite (all humankind) to the path of your Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation and argue with them in the most kindly manner, for, indeed, your Lord knows best as to who strays from His path, and best who are the right-guided. (16:125)
Had your Lord so willed, all those who live on earth would surely have attained faith, will you then compel people, against their will, to believe? 10:99
And We have not sent you, but as mercy to all the worlds. 21:107
Islam is peace!
ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE-
In a nut shell Islam is about world dommination! this is a short and brief view of how the muslims intend to attain their agenda of islamification of the whole world and what is their motivation.Let me start by saying that most of us are ill informed about islam being a religion of peace and most of the muslims we know are the peace lovinging moderate silent majority, and the religion of is hijacked by radical elements .Well it is not so. We will have to agree that the religion of the world have some point of time undergone this changes mentioned above,but none of the religions advocates the death for not sharing the same faith,whatever excess and volience which was caused by the people of other faith were purely political and not religious, although some amount of religious intolerance is there in all the mentioned religions even today .BUT IN CASE OF ISLAM ,IT IS INTOLRANCE WHICH IS THE RELIGION,IT IS A BLUE PRINT FOR MASS MURDER IN A INDUSTRIAL SCALE WHICH TRANCENDS PLACE AND TIME,(meaning the project which was started almost 1400years ago is not complete until the world would be completely converted Islam)THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO STOP, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER ,OR ALL OF US HAVE CONVERT TO ISLAM THERE IS NO THIRD OPTION BECAUSE- The muslims ummah propgates expnasion of islam by all means ,First and fore most by the sword ,it is the duty of all the muslims to kill the non muslims it written. the koran state that there is no other god other than Allah and Mohammed is only true porphet,any one who beg’s to differ is a infidel and kafir so should be beheaded at once.It is said to them donot to be friend kaffir(the non muslims)! strike them when you get the chance..Any peace treaty with the muslims is invalid, as the koran say make peace treaty with the infedals, in the dead of the night go out kill them all . Every muslim no matter how he or she is educated in western value ‘s DO NOT FOLLOW MULTICULTURE ethics it is evident in the way they dress, they live.It is a mere obligation that muslims pretend that they follows the law of the land(this is allowed in islam-Taqiyya-to be decitfull to confuse the nonbeliver) when they are minority!.If they become tha majority the rules of engagment diffrent,Remember(jessiya the slave tax which give’s the non beliver right to live in muslim dominated country,persecution are many in islam yet it called the universal brother hood-) & who ever disagrees has to be beheaded.Polygamy is rampant in islam have any one every wondred why? the point is women in islam are sub-human without any rigths on their own ,they are only useful to reproduce their own, It is because polygamy leads to a lot of children .They breed like rabbits,And without a single short being fired one fine day in the near future (may be in another 50-75 years) the muslims will over run Europe by sheer numbers,this also a method of jihad, Might sound LIke conspiracy theory,?Here comes answer as the muslims immigrant from pakistan,libya,morroco and the north afircan belt,middle east & sub continent come to Europe with the cloths on their backs and empty pockets & their peace full brotherhood they slowly change demograph of europe, as of now.,(More than 53 million Muslims live in Europe — 14 million of them in the European Union and growing.) in Europe. A Europe which dose not belive in any thing now(GOD, FAMILY VALUES,IDEOLOGY or,IDENTY). ,because of their hypocriscy, of being politically correct or because,widely held libral secular views or simply lack of will to act,The european’s way of life as we know it now will cease to exist. thank to our Muslim appeasing politicians who are only intrested in there votes because of their growing numbers,so they could hold on to power,These hypocrites look the other way when EUROPEAN WOMEN ARE GANGE RAPED,AND HUMILIATED , by these peace loving Muslims,Muslims aim is ISLAMIFICATION OF the whole world,but one step at a time. This is what happened in Egypt almost 1300 yrs ago,after conquering the arabian peninsular by war ,the Muslims went on to conqure mighty egypt which was then a super power,which was a very advanced cosmopolitan culture,Rich in science,astonomy,mathematics and medical science(remember the LIBARY OF ALEXANDRIA a center of higher knowledge-no more) like that of present day Europe, the culture which we admire so much and fascinated,is now confined to the pages of histoy thanks to peace full islam and his prophet.The muslims from the arab heart land populated Egypt ,the native’s of this once ancient land became a minorty in their own land, Enslaved & Persecuted and heavily taxed and they vanished without a trace in less than 100 years .And yes the koran advocates this to be a form of jihad…………………..ethnic cleansing i would say!…can we still claim islam to a religion of peace!.i see europe going the same way ………..not far behind is America .it not to late…………….sit up and smell the coffee!.let us still not say that Islam is peacefull…it time the World ( the people, politicians& media) strat acting today tomorrow migth be too late for who ever who is not a muslim
regards
S.G.W
Great commentary, you’ve got the support of this American!
Actually, I’m deviating from my religion seeing that it does not help me at all anymore in uplifting my physical and spiritual life… I can live my life without having a religion for God never told man to create it…Yet man created it for their own personal and public ambitions…WE CAN WORSHIP AND BELIEVE GOD WITHOUT HAVING OUR RELIGION…After all, we will be judged according to our deeds and not our beliefs, right?