Government training materials
Given that this administration seems to live in a constant state of delusion about a lot of things, perhaps this isn’t surprising. On the other hand, perhaps this explains a lot. Someone slipped bad acid into the WH water system just after Bush took office and the lot of ’em haven’t come down yet!
The nation’s top anti-drug official said people need to overcome their “reefer blindness” and see that illicit marijuana gardens are a terrorist threat to the public’s health and safety, as well as to the environment.
John P. Walters, President Bush’s drug czar, said the people who plant and tend the gardens are terrorists who wouldn’t hesitate to help other terrorists get into the country with the aim of causing mass casualties. Walters made the comments at a Thursday press conference that provided an update on the “Operation Alesia” marijuana-eradication effort.
“Don’t buy drugs. They fund violence and terror,” he said.
[…]
The operation is named after the last major battle between the Roman Empire and the Gauls in 52 B.C. That battle was won by the Romans.
Your tax money at work:
His estimate is based on a National Park Service study that found it costs $11,000 per acre to pull the plants, clear irrigation systems, reshape any terracing and replant native vegetation, said Mike Odle, Forest Service spokesman.
Check out the website for the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
Czar Walters and you know who
UPDATE: I can’t find much about it, but it appears the government is sponsoring a propaganda film called The Purple Brain which is a modern day sequel to Reefer Madness.
UPDATE 2: Fox Network (and ever so slightly right of center, Fox News) owner Rupert Murdoch was found to have pot plants growing on his property.
Fearmongering asshole.
There are real threats out there, but evil men like Bush and his ilk foment public fear to control. They are sick power-hungry wastrels who care nothing about anyone besides themselves and their cronies.
FDR once said, “we have nothing to fear but fear itself”. Where is Bush’s supportive rhetoric? We are suppposed to be afraid, shut up, and let our betters tell us how to live and who to hate.
Do such statements increase fear or only laughter at how out of touch BushCo’s Presidency is showing itself to be?
Uggh!
Our country is run by mad men. Everyday I wake up and find I am in Wonderland.
“Do such statements increase fear or only laughter at how out of touch BushCo’s Presidency is showing itself to be?”
Unfortunately, there are sheep out there everywhere. Some people will believe anything the government tells them. While sheep generally aren’t too dangerous on their own, they have a bad habit of flocking together and stampeding… When that happens, even the strongest wolves can’t do much against them.
Yer doin a heck of a job Walty!
Desperate times call for desperate measures. And damn is this administration desparate.
I noticed that in the Reefer Madness clip no one inhaled. I had assumed that during the making of the film, they would have used “stunt” marijuana. Maybe not.
heh.
And in other news Canadian judge finds pot laws unconstitutional in Canada.
http://www.thestar.com/article/235934
I really am beginning to pity Americans. The only problem from my perspective is our idiot leader is starting to parrot GW with the “terror” agenda. Mind you he’s been told to stop it because of plummeting polls. But he seems to be a thick headed type, so maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll continue to act like an ass.
Being a minority gov. he thankfully can’t just do what he wants. Too big of a cock-up and thee ole “vote of non-confidence” is a kick in the ass to the election trail.
3,
you should add NON-addictive drugs to your list…
As its been found MJ ISNT addictive.
It was post HERE in the past, that the DEA acknowledged that 90% of FOUND MJ, was wild and growing on stream banks..
That estimate of $11,000 per acre, is erroneous. And is about the same price most farmer pay to grow ANY CROP…
Puddles in the rain.
I also think this is another distraction of whats happening in the background of this country.
Not much point in my adding anything to this, as the people who bother to respond to such a post are in accord and of a like sense of outrage and frustration with such foul, tragic idiocy and injustice.
There are only two varieties of antidrug crusaders, the deluded and the corrupt. Make that three – the deluded, the corrupt and the deluded-&-corrupt.
What is conspicuously absent from the comments that follow antidrug insanity posts is any attempt to support the thug bastards. None of the usual suspects who agree with the antidrug storm troopers and swallow the so-called “research” they gin up to lend an ersatz legitimacy to their destruction of American justice are willing to go to bat for them, y’notice?
Frank IBC? Where you be at, ma man? Don’t you want to explain to us how Bushco is doing the right thing by making criminals out of millions of Americans who are doing no harm to anyone else, except themselves (and even that is highly dubious)?
RBG? How come you’re not telling us what a thankless but necessary job these brave drug warriors are doing, protecting Americans from themselves?
Why is it you guys can’t stop in for a minute and tell us all about how your Republican “get-the-government-off-the-little-guy’s-back” heroes are working for less govt regulation and interference in people’s lives by ruining citizens’ lives by criminalizing private, personal behavior?
I keep hoping that you stalwart fans of a safe America and fiscal responsibility tell us how blowing $40 billion dollars and crowding dangerous criminals out onto the street by filling the jails with nonviolent drug users is accomplishing those goals.
Yoo-hoo… anybody there??
Didn’t think so. Stay hidden until the topic blows over and some safe target comes up, like Clinton getting a BJ or some other similar matter of earth-shaking import.
How chickenshit can you get?
“…it is far more dangerous than cigarettes insofar as it contributes to diseases of the lungs…”
Nonsense. It’s nonsense when their side says it, and it’s still nonsense when someone on this side says it.
Even if we assume similar quantities of solids freed by burning and deposited into the lungs after inhalation (which I do not), we encounter the issue that the other side deliberately and deceptively fails to mention.
Most of us know cigarette smokers, and I would also say most of us have known at one time or another, 2-pack-a-day smokers.
Your experience and mine may be different, but it’s doubtful. In nearly 40 years of smoking dope, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people I’ve known who could even try to smoke 20, 30, 40 joints a day. I mean, bullshit. 20 cigarettes a day is not an unusual amount; 20 joints a day of even crappy street Mexican dope and you cannot function. Nobody does it, and those who try can’t do it for long… So there’s simply no way that the quantity of solids a dope smoker gets in his lungs is more than a small fraction of what the average cig smoker receives.
Once again, too late to post. All of this stems from Pres. Harrison Narcotic Act, passed in 1914. Until the U. S. Government figures out a way to repeal the law of supply and demand, this baloney “war on drugs” and all the money wasted thereon will continue. Morani. That “prohibition” stuff certainly worked well, didn’t it?
A quote from the article referenced below, “A War Department Commission of Inquiry was appointed under the Right Reverend Charles H. Brent, Episcopal Bishop of the Philippine Islands, to study alternatives to the Spanish system.”
For anyone interested, here is a nice short article about all this mess — (your research miles may vary):
http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/library/studies/cu/cu8.html
#18…BubbaRay…Pres. Harrison?? 1914??
You smokin that stuff boy?
Hey Lauren….Being a conservative, with Libertarian leanings….I have no problem with legalizing Marijuana. I do feel that a person found to be operating a motor vehicle under the influence should be handled just like any DUI offense.
I have tried the evil weed, but it didn’t do anything for me, besides I’m to damn cheap to pay 400.00 an ounce for it. 🙂
Oh….my Mom and Dad said that when they graduated from high school (1964 for Dad and 1965 for Mom) until the early 70’s you could buy an ounce of Mexican dirt weed for 10.00 an ounce…..85.00 a Kilo.
in 71, they paid 15.00 an ounce for Columbian….in 72 they paid 25.00 an ounce for Kona Gold, Maui Wowie, and Thai stick.
When I told them what terrorist weed costs now they had a damn cow.
joshua you or your parents need to find a better connection. Or learn to grow.
19, Joshua, once a Pres., always a Pres. Slick Willy is still called “President Clinton.” If you can provide evidence that the Harrison Narcotics Act was named for anyone else, “boy”, I’ll be impressed. I seem to recall Pres. Harrison died of pneumonia a month after giving a very long inaugural address on a cold day. Details of what medications he was provided are sketchy, but you could look it up. According to the wiki,
“His doctors tried everything to cure him, applying opium, castor oil, Virginia snakeweed, and even actual snakes. But the treatments only made Harrison worse and he went into delirium.”
And :
“No, I don’t do drugs, I don’t like the effects it has on some people.” Cite me who quoted that and where, and I’ll be impressed, youngster.
#20, Joshua, you’re welcome for the astronomy links on the article above. 🙂
Dude!
Reefer Madness 2!!!!!!
I have GOT to see that.
#16 – aaaaaahhh…..hehe….he said blacks & latinos.
:rolleyes:
Comment by pedro — 7/15/2007 @ 9:54 pm
I don’t really care if you roll your eyes or not… Marijuana was attacked because it was the intoxicant of choice for minorities in those days, and your knee-jerk denial of that fact doesn’t change it.
#17 – The research bears me out. Regardless of the delivery mechanism, marijuana is harder on the lungs than cigarettes. Of course, that is the ONLY downside. And you are right… marijuana is not consumed at the same rate as cigarettes, which is a well taken point. It has a far lower to almost non-existent cancer risk and it is, as we agree, non-addictive.
#19 – I have tried the evil weed, but it didn’t do anything for me, besides I’m to damn cheap to pay 400.00 an ounce for it.
You are too cheap and I must be too smart… Because that is too much… But once you do the math, it is more economical than alcohol.
Speaking of prices…
You guys ever wonder how the crack epidemic got it’s start? Well, thanks goes to Mr. George Herbert Walker Bush.
He directed a DEA crackdown on smugglers in the early 80s and also successfully orchestrated a push to make the penalties for smuggling marijuana as stiff as those for smuggling cocaine.
If you’re a marijuana smuggler, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that, once the penalties are the same, you’d be a fool not to switch to smuggling cocaine instead, since it’s so much more profitable by unit weight.
And thanks to Bush Sr., that’s exactly what happened. On the streets of Miami in ’81 or ’82, you could buy a fine weight ounce of quality Columbian, Jamaican or Panamanian dope for $15. $20 got you something special. A gram of coke, maybe 20-30% pure would set you back anywhere from $125 to $200.
After Bush got done protecting us from the scourge of marijuana, by, say ’85, $20 or $25 would get you a gram of 50% pure coke, just about anywhere you went. But reefer skyrocketed in price because no one was bringing it in anymore. You took what you could get, and if you were lucky, or knew someone, you might be able to buy a ounce for under $100, but $125 was common for cheap Jamaican shit weed and Columbian with any serious buds in it would run you more like $200, and even more for exotic stuff, if you could even find it.
So a harmless drug is replaced by a much more dangerous one and this cheap coke made the production of ‘crack’ possible and profitable.
It seems that “Mission Accomplished” runs in the Bush family. Another royal fuckup. “Thanks, George,” from all the crackheads of America. And “Go fuck yourself” from the benign dope smokers…
#28 – YEAH!
#28, Alix, nice links. “Along with that now-famous lie, he [Aslinger: director of the newly-formed Federal Bureau of Narcotics, a racist] read pieces of Hearsts’ yellow journalism that finally pushed a Congress that knew little about the [marijuana] issue over the edge.”
This sounds like Congress today, making decisions for / against technology about which they are totally uninformed. “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” (Alphonse Karr)
31,
Did you even bother to read the links, or perform any research on your own? There is concrete evidence, not some conspiracy speculation.
You are wrong about the racist angle. Period. It did exist and was heavily exploited to make marijuana illegal.
If you have facts or references to support your point, then provide them. Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass, smartass or not.
#31 – In those days, bigotry wasn’t so much hidden as it was, well, put on display for all to see…
The historical document is pretty clear about why marijuana was banned, and uppity negros and shiftless wetbacks were clear targets. One of the things about conservative thinking is that while cons wisely reject conspiracy theories, they often lump facts in with conspiracies out of convenience and/or expediency.
Dude, Pedro,
The racist angle towards Marijuana in america DID happen. The government did massive campaigns using posters with devious beady eyed mexicans with joints in thier mouths. They did the same thing with Chinese people and opium.