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I’m always amazed by those who seem to think we can just open the flood gates to immigrants and somehow avoid becoming the place that they all just arrived from. Even worse is the notion that we would still somehow be in a position to help the rest of the planet after doing so. To me this stuff seems like common sense but a lot of people apparently aren’t getting it.
I agree that there is tremendous fear of being perceived as Xenophobic or insensitive or whatever, even though just about all of us are immigrants or descendants thereof. We need to get over this little fear fast before we all end up a lot worse off. There is nothing mean about being reasonable.
Just look at the damage that’s already being done to our high tech community by programs like H1-B. And that’s just the tip of the ice berg.
I think we all need to ask ourselves if we’re really prepared to see our personal income and standard of living take a nosedive over the next 20 years. If you’re ok with that, fine. I’m not and I don’t feel one bit guilty about saying so.
#29
Don’t blame me, blame the Republicans smart enough to know that bigotry on TV sells.
#23 – “The excuse is ALWAYS that immigrants take jobs that nobody wants. Never true. These are jobs nobody wants at ridiculously low/slave wages.
The immigrants from the south slave away picking your produce for the exact reasons you stated. So, your “Never true” is just BS.
There is not a job in the world that would not be filled by a non-immigrant if the price was right.
Raising the salary for the low-paying jobs that immigrants do… well, John… that’s a pipe dream and you know it… The average I-shop-at-Wal-Mart American wants everything cheap, cheap, cheap…
Just curious, John… Which immigrant groups are welcome? Hispanics? Asians? Europeans? Africans? Or none at all? Perhaps you want to send home people like Sergey Brin, Om Malik, Jerry Yang…
#30 – I’m always amazed by those who seem to think we can just open the flood gates to immigrants and somehow avoid becoming the place that they all just arrived from.
Even worse is the notion that we would still somehow be in a position to help the rest of the planet after doing so.
You’re talking as if the USA was the only country with a decent standard of living. The standard of living in the USA is not the highest in the world. Also, intelligent people come to the US for the opportunities to work with other intelligent people. Read The Flight of the Creative Class.
Mexico as the 51st state. If we are going to spend the resources anyway fixing the problems we might as well have the assets at the end of the day.
#34
I’ll be the last to argue against immigration for people who are truly top-notch in their field, but that’s not what we’re talking about.
We’re not inviting huge numbers of Indian software developers into the country because they’re more talented than the average American programmer. We’re doing it because they work for less money. So some corporate CEO gets to pay himself $50 mil a year instead of $40 mil. That’s a far cry from an invitation extended to someone like Einstein or Fermi.
If you can’t see that this is being driven by corporate greed, you’re missing a lot. I’m someone who believes in capitalism and free markets and I can even see it.
As far as the standard of living thing goes, I don’t really get your point. If Switzerland has a higher standard of living, good for them. My concern is that we’ll eventually end up with an economy like Mexico’s, not Switzerland’s.
33. Jaegermeister- heres the deal as I see it. You want to bring something to the table, and go through the legal process, and assimilate (that means learning English, yeah) , your welcome to come to America. I dont care about your color or nationality. You want to come here to get on the government teat, drop kids and let the rest of us take care of them, then no, your not welcome. Its as simple as that.
#36
The system has been misused by some corporations. What’s missing from this whole equation is fines that hurt corporations if they do this. I’m totally against the train-your-replacement immigration policy that these corporations has been using. But I also see that if a small company can get a programmer with a masters degree instead of a local two-year diploma guy… then all power to them.
I’m someone who believes in capitalism and free markets and I can even see it.
That includes globalisation… which is what a lot of people has a problem with (me to some extent too). Capitalism is to make money, and they do it exactly as you wrote… they hire dirt cheap Indian programmers to do coding in order to make that extra money.
As far as the standard of living thing goes, I don’t really get your point.
It was a response to the …avoid becoming the place that they all just arrived from. … There are quite a few immigrants from Western Europe in North America. It’s just that they don’t stick out like people from other parts of the world. 😉
#37
So, essentially you’re saying that legal workers immigration is okay, but welfare immigration is not. I’ve got no problem with that.
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