doug says:

OK, guys, let me get this started –

The Rutgers players are a bunch of racists, like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson! They should have refused his apology and issued a statement indicating that there was nothing wrong with what Imus said. Because rap music singers refer to women as “ho’s,” the Rutgers players should have loudly announced that everyone should follow their example and refer to all black women, including themselves, as “ho’s.”

Billabong says:

Don Imus is going to make a billion dollars out of this mess.Blacks have been so marginalized in this country they will grab anything and call it a win.We have institutionalized racism in our country by using SAT scores and class rank as the only indicators of success.You invite people of other races to a University not to help them but to educate the white kids already there.What went on this week was OJ all over again.

mark says:

If someone called my wife, mother, girlfriend, sister a whore, I’d fire them personally, after I kicked the shit out of them. They didnt get big mouth fired, he done got hisself fired.

gquaglia says:

#6 No, the Anna Nicole Smith fiasco was worse.

Richard Brill says:

Sharptons an enigma.
Who voted him into office to represent so called black people.
Why is this country so divided on color. People are people we are all American.
Oh big deal sharpton get off your soap box and get it. Let the man earn an honest living.

Richard Brill says:

The Average person goes thru life and takes the path of least resistance.

They worry about paying bill, staying healhy and enjoying thier free time. If they are lucky they get a vaction every year.

No, No, No, Not Sharpton. Hes not the average. He lives his life on the edge looking for trouble. Suddenly its Sharpton to the rescue, like a bad lawyer chasing an ambulance,

Sharptons on his soap box complaining how the white man hurt him and his people. And how The white man should be punished for life with disregard to freedom of speech.

Oh geese give me a break.

Over the year I listened to what he had to say and most of the time the information was not correct as in the case of Tawana Brawley.
Most of the time the words that came out of his mouth where about his hate for other people. Especially Jews.
If anyone is predjudice its him. I
Over the years I learned how he cheated so many of his own people.
Andbecause he is a rev. he skirts around the tax laws as well.

He reminds me of growing up the kid in class that got a charge out of instigating an argument amongst to people while he sat back and chuckled think about what he did.

If the country is to be divided by Black, White, yellow, brown, red and green. Which I hope will never be the case, then each race should vote for who they want to represent then.
As far as I understand Rutgers or the So Called Black people never asked sharpton to represent them.
Rutgers is a top university, they don’t need Sharpton stickin his head in thier business. All they wanted was an apology not a blood donation.
Imus goofed, plain and simple, he pulled the old shock jock trick and it back fired.
So what
was accomplished, Sharpton took away a mans livelyhood because the man made an offense comment that could have been bleeped by the company that fired him.
He took away the money that imus was donating to help children of all colors.
What happened to freedom of speech.
If you don’t like what the person says on the radio show then don’t listen.

So way to go sharpton you widened a gap between races rather than bring people together.

JimR says:

“His career took flight in the 1970s and with a cocaine- and vodka-fueled outrageous humor. After sobering up, he settled into a mix of highbrow talk about politics and culture, with locker room humor sprinkled in.”

I think a bad idea of what entertainment is, has run its course. The public defamation of an innocent group, should be dealt with seriously. Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to slander.

You might say if you don’t like it don’t listen, but there are too many gullible half-wits out there who will believe anything if it’s repeated a few times. Having shows like that is not compatible to achieving a peaceful society. Freedom has never meant freedom to harm as you please.

Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

I like that the Rutgers women took the high road. Good for them…they seem like a decent bunch.

James Hill's Mom says:

Don Ho died today. I wonder if he was from nappy headed ho descent?

Lou says:

#17… you made my day.

Mr. Fusion says:

#16,
Hmmm, I think Imus should apologize at the same time that Al Sharpton apologizes for his comments about the Duke Lacrosse players….

And are you going to apologize for smearing OJ Simpson? Or do you believe that another standard applies in that case?

Let’s put some things into perspective.

Imus smeared some women Basketball players because HE didn’t approve of their looks.

Sharpton reacted to published reports on a gang rape of a black woman by three “privileged” white kids.

Simpson was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

While Imus’s comment was not warranted, it is nothing compared to what the liberal media releases. Just look at MTV or BET.

Hhmmm, didn’t one of Rupert Murdoch’s companies agree to publish OJ Simpson’s book? Of course they later backed down after the uproar, but that was after the check was cashed. Besides, MTV is an entertainment channel. BET might be better compared to Fox. As well, I guess we should also consider the hate that conservative men like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Weiner (aka Savage), Sean Hannity, and the like put out.

darthrader says:

#16
I have never made any comments about the OJ Simpson case. OJ was acquitted in the criminal case but convicted in the civil case. This is not a matter of racism, but of the justice system.

The point that I was trying to make is that Christian ministers (Sharpton and Jackson) , who are supposed to show acceptance and compassion to all persons by default, but do so apparently only in a very selective manner.

The ideals of separation of church and state are such that the government is not supposed to establish a state-run religion. This was established to prevent a repeat of what happened in England. This does, however, work in two separate ways. The government is not supposed to tell religions how they are supposed to worship (within reason, if a religion is organized that blatantly violates the law, then the government can step in), and that religions are not supposed to force their views into the government (proselytization).

I could care less what color somebody is, I care about how they act. If they demean another without applying the same standard across the board, then they are racist, or sexist, etc. Neither of the aforementioned ministers made any damning statements in the recent Kobe Bryant case. The crime in question was rape, a horrible crime against a woman, not a vague comment about appearance. This is not wholly different from the Duke Lacrosse players incident. But remarks were made about one and not the other. This, in essence, is what the entire matter is about.

Imus did the right thing in apologizing for his comments. While the comments were unacceptable when taken in the context that has subsequently been blown out of proportion, he at least bothered to apologize. He is well known for making comments without thinking them through beforehand. The Rutgers basketball team accepted his apology. The case is closed. As to his punishment, I don’t necessarily feel that being fired as Al has called for is the proper course of action, but events have been set in motion, and I guess the best thing we can do now is watch them play out.

Lauren the Ghoti says:

#22 – Thinking out Loud

“Reasonable people convicted him. CONVICTED. No smear there.”

You’re actually being too kind to the murdering bastard. I think there might still be a few thousand ideologically-blinded, gullible morons out there who truly, sincerely believe that, against millions-to-one odds, OJ didn’t slash Ron & Nicole, that all that evidence was just lies and coincidences.

When it comes to those deluded clowns, it’s interesting to note this: they insist, because the jury, in a court of law, found him not guilty, that that proves that he didn’t do it! A judgement de jure somehow miraculously transforms de facto reality – and after the fact!! “He couldn’ta done it, cause the jury said he didn’t!”

Their absolute, 100% confidence in the determination of a jury is utterly amazing coming from the very same people who spend the rest of their time complaining that juries falsely convict innocent people every single day!!

If all those juries who put innocent people in prison are wrong, because of being corrupted or deceived – and they most indubitably are – then any jury can be corrupted or deceived – including OJ’s.

And if you deny that, then you’re not just a fool, you’re a lying hypocrite.

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For those who think that’s Imus’ dimwitted wisecrack was as bad as the things Sharpton and Jackson, et al, say –

Imus was making an off-the-cuff, thoughtless crack. Those girls had done nothing to him, said nothing about him; he wasn’t angry with them, he had no motive to consciously decide to deliberately insult them. That’s a far cry from calling all of America’s Jews “Hymies” or “diamond merchants” and provoking deadly violence against them. Remember? Those two were serious, there was no dumbass wisecracking involved, they deliberately slandered all Jews.

And of course, the “Reverend” Al – that sack of shit, after pumping up the Tawana Brawley hoax, publicly, deliberately and repeatedly, called DA Steven Pagones a rapist and a racist – among innumerable other despicable lies.

And that fatass turd has never once apologized.

One set of rules for you and yours, another set for everyone else, right?

Kid yourselves all you want – what Imus said pales into utter insignificance nest to the filthy lies and bigoted smears that those two hatemonging opportunist slime have been spewing wholesale for years without so much as a fucking peep from you “tolerant” “liberal” racist hypocrites.

Richard Brill says:

Actually the term Black people is not a correct description of race.
Most people we refer to as black are not black at all.

Their skin color is different shades of brown. The skin type changed as a way of adapting to the environment over time due to evolution.

After all we all came from Adam and Eve.

Many of the so called Black people who like to be called African American do not come from Africa but other regions of the world such as the islands.
Many of the so called black people have mixed blood with other races.
in addition their roots trace back to many generations of American.

I have personally found that people of color more predudice of the different shades. Lighter skin brown people are more prejudice of blacker people.
But this isn’t any different amongst white people either.
Whites have a cast system of their own based mostly on religion.
Blonde hair Blue eyed Protestants being on the top and Jews on the bottom.

People like Al Sharpton and David Duke are about hate and self promotion.

Thier is good and bad in every race.
I really don’t care what color a person is as long as they are a good person.

Podesta says:

Thanks for fighting the good fight, Doug. When the racists are on a roll there’s a tendency to look away because it is like some twilight zone where rationality is dismissed.

I think the reason for the bigots’ attempt to change the topic to Al Sharpton, Anna Nicole Smith or the weather is that they know there is no real defense for what Don Imus said. Those young women did nothing to deserve the disgraceful treatment he dished out. So, Lauren the Bigot and his ilk must evade the facts to defend Imus and his viewpoint. They mistakenly think they can do so by changing the topic.

On the previous thread about the Imus situation, I decided to accept the ‘freedom of speech’ Lauren and his fellow Aryan Nations members friends say they are defending, So, I took the liberty of saying that Lauren’s mother, sister, wife or girlfriend are stringy haired hos — with lice. Strangely, neither Lauren or his friends have applauded that remark. Could that be because that they know it is not a decent thing to say?