Inside Bay Area – Christian teens rally to save San Francisco — I wish these two groups s would just duke it out and get it over with.
By the tens of thousands, Christian teens poured into proudly liberal San Francisco on Friday for a two-day evangelical extravaganza where they would rock, pray and provoke progressives, who accused the movement of working toward a theocracy endangering “San Francisco values.”
BattleCry, a cross between a rock concert and a war rally, began with a showdown on the steps of San Francisco City Hall as Christians and progressives judged one another while accusing each side of intolerance.
“These people are no better than the Taliban — Christian soldiers,” said Joel Cook, 47, of Alameda.
On the other side of the philosophical breach, Eden West, a 16-year-old Christian, said of a man holding a sign proclaiming he was both gay and Christian, “If he really loved God, he wouldn’t be gay.”
The dueling rallies were the first course in a two-day evangelical event known as BattleCry, where 22,000 people were expected at AT&T Park to celebrate God while rejecting aspects of pop culture.
Divided by a street as well as ideology, BattleCry participants waved red banners and yelled that they were taking back their generation as progressives carried a blue banner depicting fornicating stick figures and the phrase “Sodomy Rocks.”
Sodomy rocks? Gads. What kind of retort is that? My favorite quote I saw on TV came from one of the particpants of Battle Cry. He said. “It’s great because when I hang out with my friends and they don’t know about God, I can tell them about God and have fun.” Move over Heidegger!
Realted link:
Battle Cry Home Page — See if it creeps you out.
Li, that’s a wonderful view. Unbelievers have been living by that rule (eg, regarding acceptance of homosexuality or right to choose) without a threat of eternal damnation on their heads, and it’s nice to see some believers recognizing the social destructiveness of their “hubris”.
Thanks pedro. I couldn’t find what you were referring to but I found this…
“According to Mormon teachings, American Indians are descendants of the ancient House of Israel and church members have a responsibility to help bring them back to the Kingdom of God.”
Apparently the NA natives ARE Jewish. Who knew? LOL.
#59
> Did the white Southern racists have a conscience when MLK
> confronted them with pacifism? No.
On the contrary, the nation as a whole most certainly had a conscious going back to the Civil War with the abolitionists. In the 60’s the fact that there were numerous protests in favor of Civil Rights is a clear indication that the nation as a whole was willing to entertain open debate about the issue and be swayed by examples of unjust treatment.
> Did the British colonists have a conscience when Ghandi
> confronted them with pacifism? No.
Similar to above, because the British allowed for open debate and considered themselves a “civilized” society, the effect of violence against Ghandi’s non-violent protest clearly contributed to the British relinquishing control of India. Had it been Hitler’s Germany, Ghandi would have been executed along with most Indian without remorse or feeling.
#63
>>#35 said: “…Atheists are not religious..”
> (#63) If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. Atheist believe in science, facts & themselves.
Atheists do not accept the theist claims as credible. That is not “choosing not to decide”. Rather, that is actively stating that theist’s claim are baloney and awaiting tangible, verifiable, repeatable, non-biased evidence to support their theist claims. History has proven that the scientific method is a superior technique to finding truth than the blind faith ascribed to by theists. That is not so much “belief” as it is accepting the conclusions of the evidence.