U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton…on Saturday called for the Bush administration to start withdrawing American troops from Iraq within 90 days.
“Now it’s time to say the redeployment should start in 90 days or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war,” Clinton said in a video posted on her campaign Web site.
Clinton said she offered a “roadmap” in the proposed act for the United States to get out of Iraq, and proposed a cap be put on the number of troops in Iraq at the Jan. 1 level.
If President George W. Bush follows her roadmap, he could end the Iraq war before he leaves office, she said. “If George Bush doesn’t end the war before he leaves office, when I’m president, I will.”
Here’s the link to the video, Roadmap out of Iraq.
“when I’m president, I will.”
Yeah, about that…
As much as this pains me to admit it, I am getting the feeling from Iraq that the best way to get their government to get their act together is to start pulling the US military crutch out from under them.
For once in her life, Bilary may be right.
Now, isn’t it gonna be a hoot watching what Bill does on the sly when he ain’t the big guy in the Oval Office. Good lord, he will be hitting on the tour groups visiting the White House. Hilary will outlaw any female interns.
Don
Vietnam all over again.
#1 – Another thought on that.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…
They do need to fight it out for themselves. Yes there will be suffering and carnage, but historically that what happens in civil wars. These factions are incapable of sharing power, so one must dominate at any given time. We better regroup and rethink the new power structure in the Middle East. There is no love between Iran and the Saudis. I still think the Israelis could drag us into a premature confrontation with Iraq.
The first Bush 41 handed over to Clinton 42 a budget deficit and a war in Somalia to deal with. Clinton 42 handed over to Bush 43 a budget surplus and no protracted wars to deal with. As Bush 43 likes to do, he one upped his father and is about to hand over to Clinton 44 a huge budget deficit and protracted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You can’t blame Hillary for not wanting to inherit this mess when she becomes president.
Regardless of what the Hillary pontificates at any given moment, or whether or not she gets elected, the ant-war people really need to wake up. The US is staying in Iraq until the oil is gone. The ‘troops’ as they say are not coming home for a long long while. The numbers may fluctuate from time to time but the US is there to stay period. Take your head out of the sand and smell the roses people.
good point #3. Like Vietnam this war has been unwarranted, shown large-scale incompetence, lies, and outright mismanagement which has done a disservice to the troops, and the citizens of both countries.
And of course like all American wars, including the Civil War, it has been a boon to war contractors. I like the company that supplied trucks that weren’t in operating condition. their defense was that the contract said supply trucks, but not in what condition.
#6
Little problem with your scenario, there will be no Clinton 44. And why should we not blame Hillary for this ‘mess’, as you say? She voted yes for it. I find it terribly offensive that you refer to a war with tens of thousands of dead people as a result, a mess.
#8
Couldn’t agree more. Just one addition to the first paragraph… leaving the mess to sort itself out.
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#6
You forgot the greatest legacy of the George W. Bush presidency. The countless hours of material he provides for comedians. Why the amount of hilarious GWB speech footage that is tailor-made for David Letterman’s “Great Moments in Presidential Speeches” series alone is simply priceless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoNVOH9ygNM
Someone’s scared of Obamamania.
Clinton and Obama have set the bar for debate. Now, all Presidential aspirants, Democrats and Republicans, will have to unequivocally state their stand on Iraq and give a plan or timetable. All the Republicans will have to think of their upcoming elections in 2008. Senators as well as Representatives.
The American population is not happy with the status quo and those supporting Bush will end up paying the price. This attitude isn’t anything fickle, it is the result of being lied to and seeing Americans killed for an obvious personal agenda.
For all of you republicans out there let me speak your language, just think of Iraq as black people and our troops as welfare.
Iraq = OIL
Bush pumps the OIL
USA get out and stop pumping -> No more problems.
Promises that can get you elected…
Look them up,
#17 – Got a link for those? and are they rated for “promises kept” vs. “promises broken”?
#14. The Republicans running for president are in a sticky spot. moving away from Dumbya is widely seen as betrayal by a big segment of those who will be voting in the GOP primaries. thus making it tougher to get the nomination.
OTOH, doing the ‘stay the course’ thing in the general election will lose you a lot of the swing voters who will decide the election.
Of course, ALL this could change depending upon events in Iraq, which none of the GOP candidates have any control (or even influence) over. That’s gotta be driving them nuts.
McCain is in the toughest spot. He has been pushing for more troops and ‘stay till the job is done’ for so long, it would be really tough for him to back off of that. The others, newer to the game, can say, “Well, the surge did not work, so time to head home,’ without looking like flip-floppers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_promise
List of famous broken promises
* United States presidential election, 1900 – Republican promises to end the Philippine War quickly
* The British Liberal Party’s pledge to cut military spending, before embarking on the Dreadnought arms race with Germany
* Woodrow Wilson’s promise to keep the United States out of World War I
* Herbert Hoover’s 1928 pledge to end poverty
* Franklin Roosevelt’s 1932 pledge to maintain balanced budgets and to decrease government spending by 25%
* Franklin Roosevelt’s 1940 promise to keep the US out of World War II
* The British Labour Party’s 1945 pledge to set up a new ministry of housing
* Lyndon B. Johnson’s 1964 promise to win the “war on poverty”
* Richard Nixon’s 1968 promise to quickly resolve the Vietnam War
* In the 1974 Canadian election, the Liberals derided the Tory plan to implement wage and price controls only to bring them in soon after being elected
* George H.W. Bush’s 1988 “Read my lips: No new taxes” pledge
* Bill Clinton’s 1992 promise of a middle class tax cut.
* The Liberal Party of Canada’s 1993 election pledge to scrap the Goods and Services Tax
* Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke in 1987 “by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty”
* In 1994, upon entering Italian politics, media tycoon Silvio Berlusconi promised he would sell his assets in Fininvest (later Mediaset), because of the conflict of interest it would have generated, a promise he repeated a number of times in later years, but after 12 years and having served three terms as prime minister, he still retains ownership of his company that controls virtually all the Italian private TV stations and a large number of magazines and publishing houses, which have extensively been used in favour of his political party
* Australian Prime Minister John Howard in 1995 that the GST would “never ever” be part of Liberal policy (the tax package was put to the Australian people at the 1998 election that re-elected Howard)
I’ve come to the conclusion that Hillary isn’t going to be the Democratic nominee, let alone President.
I think this war needs to end. I fear that by leaving such a mess in Iraq though, we are sowing the seeds of the next and bigger war in the Middle East.
I’m also beginning to think the Democrats may be pushing the envelope to far. While they have power over the purse strings, they are now boxing in a President at war to the point that he won’t be able to respond to events that can come out of nowhere, leaving this country truely vulnerable. Congress has no Constitutional authority to conduct a war or to direct how it’s conducted, they are only able to pay for it or not. If they aren’t careful, they could find themselves with a large body count of Americans this time next year and it will be their own making.
They are reading the polls and thinking they can do all these things and the public will respond favorably. But we all know that those who live by the polls, die by the polls.
At some point, people will start feeling like Bush is being piled up on, and the polls could very well start moving back his way.
As for McCain, it is common knowledge that he has spoken up from the very beginning that more troops were needed or we would lose in Iraq. But he has stood his ground that the war is screwed up, but now we must win it. He will end up being the only one who voted for this war, who has not tried to weasel his way out of that vote. IAfter Hillary’s total about face, he will and does look like a man of princible. I still think he will be the Republican nominee, and will win the General election.
I would be happier if she said: “In 90 days we will , impeach, arrest, try and sentence the president and vice president for treasonous acts against the people of the United States”.