The foreign ministers of the three giants of the Asian landmass — Russia, China and India — are meeting in New Delhi to advance an old proposal for a Trilateral Global Alliance that would effectively exclude the West from a position of superiority in Asia…Although at present only a gleam in the eye of geopoliticians, the TGA has made enough progress in the past two years to indicate that within the next three, a framework agreement could be signed by the three heads of government that would codify the principles and objectives of this partnership aimed at limiting Western power.
This refusal of the Western alliance to acknowledge the equality of China, Russia and India with themselves is the reason the years ahead are likely to witness the birth of an India-China-Russia global alliance that would soon become the biggest geopolitical factor in Asia, and then in Africa and South America.
Lots more in the article. The discussion is in progress as this is posted.
Professor Nalapat’s premises and analysis are often self-contradicting reflecting less than perfect logic. Nevertheless, his is an influential voice in Indian politics. This trialogue will move forward no matter what rules the West might wish to impose. Let’s hope it just becomes a drinking club rather than a pain-in-the-rear for us.
Why would they need us? Oh yeah, I remember. They need some place to dump their cheap crap. What better place than the land of Wal-Mart?!
#1 — and your newest computer, mouse, display, cell phone, TV, whatever — was produced where?
2. “#1 — and your newest computer, mouse, display, cell phone, TV, whatever — was produced where?”
Yep, thanks for proving my point.
My (and my girlfriend) New Year’s resolution this year was to do everything possible to buy items from the USA first, then close allies second, etc. And nothing from China. Apparently I need to add Russia and India to the list.
Thus far, not buying from China has been relatively easy, the issue for athletic shoes is that if not China, then Vietnam or Malaysia. Not much better, but not China…
Actually, we never did. Sorry to pick your bubble!
one problem #1. they could still sell us goods and tell us in a geopolitical sense to go toss off.(I think that’s the British phrase)
after all, what would our government do? cease all imports from them. please, we can’t get people to stop buying those ridiculous SUVs(what next a tractor trailer cab as the ultimate in luxury and size) to avoid wasting gas. you really think the American public would forgo their various toys, textiles, etc, etc just so our government can make a political statement. right. that will happen the day a woman or minority becomes President. Hillary and Barack don’t have a shot by the way. trust me this society isn’t there yet.
Dr. Nalapat was interviewed on Chinese TV, last night. One focus of his response was that the US was taking over the role of supplier to Pakistan’s government/military — while China was gradually drawing down.
To me, the most interesting aspect of this Trialogue — unmentioned in the article or commentary in American media — is that it isn’t a four-part musical. The strongest economy in Asia for decades has been Japan’s. I’m willing to bet the participants in Delhi consider Japan (1) to be solidly in bed with the US and (2) losing economic leadership rather quickly to China, anyway.
This is an extension of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The United States ignores the growing revulsion of its economic and foreign policies at its own risk. These three nations will be an increasing force to reckon with both economically and militarily. They only get stronger while the current leadership in our country takes no action to reverse our hastening decline.
Hey! I have an idea!
Lets outsource all our tech jobs to India, Russia and China where the generous US government tax breaks make it just profitable enough to do.
That’ll show em who’s boss!
Meanwhile, these countries have been trying to do this for over 250 years… long before the United States was on the map (literally).
What makes you think it’s going to work now?
#4
Are you sure that’s not made in China? They can easily put a “proudly made in the USA” on their products.
10 What makes you think it’s going to work now?
Money?
When, in the last 250 years, has China had such a huge trade imbalance working in their favor – let alone such a capitalist-friendly “Communist” government.
India is pulling-in IT money…
Russia is trying to corner-the-market for all of the energy/fuel supplies within its borders…
They’ve seen the EU start to become a force in the world economy – and can’t be ignorant of the “North American Union” and NASCO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union
http://www.nascocorridor.com/
Angel (#11),
To put that on that label at least some percentage has been assembled in the USA. Better than nothing and gotta start somewhere…
in the event that the TGA meets its goals within the next few years, will it still be economically sound for western based companies to be outsourcing or moving their base of operations to a place where they have little to no dominance?
Indirectly, how will this effect the socio-economic returns of the governments in power in those geographical areas if western based corporations withdraw their large r&d and operations budgets back to their own countries?
Once again, politicians are thinking in the “short-term”
14 — the only flag global corporations salute is green and has dead presidents on it.
What’s changing is the color of the currency, that’s all. Corporate R&D follows the money and manufacturing.
I recall an officer of Cisco on the Charlie Rose Show a year or so ago declaring he’s told his grandkids to study Chinese and get ready to move to Shanghai and build their careers.
An alliance against the US is to be expected. It really doesn’t matter who our president is, what our policies are, or how pure are our motives. The fact is that no one likes a pit bull in their neighborhood. Pit bulls are tolerated if they are kept on a short leash and the community is threatened by wolves. Remove the wolves and everyone will start calling for a dog catcher.
The US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan are no different than what we did in Korea, Viet Nam, Panama, and Gulf War I. Yet we are soundly criticized by our “friends” for our recent actions. Why do suppose that is? Could it have anything to do with the dissolution of the Soviet Union?
The US is a power to be feared; we even make our friends uneasy. You’re only fooling yourselves if you think it’s because of Bush. For decades there have been forces within Europe that have sought to counter the growing hegemony of the US. The creation of the EU is a direct result of that movement.
Folks, it’s human nature on a global scale.
“The US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan are no different than what we did in Korea, Viet Nam, Panama, and Gulf War I. Yet we are soundly criticized by our “friends” for our recent actions.”
Why is it different? 1) Because at least in the case of Iraq, we invaded preemtively, in other words, we started it. 2) Because in both Iraq and Afghanistan we have broken our own rules, throwing out the Geneva Convention, setting up secret prisons and using torture and other immoral practices on prisoners of war.
For these reasons and others, things are very different, we are no longer seen as the great paragon of justice and morality we once were. We are no better than the rest of the imperialistic empires of the past. In our obsession with bringing democracy to the world, we have lost our moral soul, and the entire world sees it, including at least half of all Americans. We are in the wrong.
The Iraq war is being financed by pure debt, and being fought by more and more reluctant “volunteers”. It is systematically devaluing our dollar and destroying our military. What we are witnessing is the beginning of the end of the American Empire.
I do not forsee the rest of the world caring about our fate. Russia, China, and India are just positioning themselves to take over. Compared to the mess we made of Iraq — the messes they made of Chechnya, Tibet, and Kashmir look trivial.
#17, Ariane,
Well said. I especially like your last sentence, it truly hit home.