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“Nouveau black”….ha ha….
You know, the Colbert Report and The Daily Show almost make us non-Americans forgive your country for creating Tony Danza.
I about fell out of my chair laughing when I saw this the first time around. Great “interview”!
On the one hand, one dark-skinned person refusing to acknowledge another as “black” because they are not descended from slaves is ridiculous. I’ve never heard a Dutch, German, Russian, or Icelandic person object to being referred to as “white,” or any other white dude say that the Swedish aren’t really “white people.”
On the other hand, if the average person considers that a “black” guy could be Jamaican, Haitian, or something else entirely, maybe it will force them to realize that a person’s identity and value as a human being can not be judged by skin color.
The sad part is that it’s 2007 and this is such a big deal at all.
Shawn
What does it say about our society when fake news and fake pundits are more informational than the real thing? This was one of those “interviews” that made me go; What did she just say?
4. “What does it say about our society when fake news and fake pundits are more informational than the real thing?”
Real news programs don’t want you to actually think. Thinking people are not easily brainwashed.
I love the BACA black.
“Black As Circumstances Allow” = BACA
Actually, Barack Obama is more African American than black Americans. His father is an actual African and his mother is an actual American. Most black Americans are at least ten generations removed from being African. And you don’t have to be black to be African; you can also be white or Arab. I think black Americans to need to figure out what constitutes their race. What do they want to call themselves, blacks or African Americans? And how dark does the color of your skin need to be considered black? I can think of quite a few so-called black performers than have skin tones lighter than Barack Obama.
7. “his mother is an actual American”
Wait a minute, are you saying is mom is not the Swiss Miss girl?!
6: Exactly! I love that the author is just as witty as Colbert is.
Claiming that Barrack isn’t “a black american” because his ancestors weren’t slaves makes no sense.
He grew up being treated like other black people in America. He has just as much connection with slavery as other black Americans.
They weren’t slaves, and he’s never been a slave.
The black experience in our country is the same for everyone discriminated against for their skin color.
This woman is dead wrong.
#5 – Real news programs don’t want you to actually think. Thinking people are not easily brainwashed.
Very true.
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As for this lady… she needs to move along… I don’t know what’s wrong with people of her kind, who needs to bring up slavery to justify things. It’s like the Jews who throw the anti-semitic card whenever someone criticize Israel. Get over it.
In the Caribbean the West Indian population, who are truly descendants of slaves, prefer the term West Indian over black or African American (in the USVI), But they would argue that you had to be black to be West Indian, even though there is about a 15% white population many who were born and raised there and also wanted to be known as West Indian. Similar to white S Africans.
Labels are riduculous.
this reminds me of a quote I read a few weeks ago(sorry, I don’t recall the author’s name) she wrote that in America, a white woman can give birth to a black baby, but a black woman can’t give birth to a white baby.
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
Everyone is an ‘African’, go check out your DNA. I think you will be surprised as I was. Welcome to the human race.
14. Thats impossible, you have to see me dance to understand why.
14. Thats impossible, if you saw me dance you would understand.
#5, Real news programs don’t want you to actually think. Thinking people are not easily brainwashed.
Would you be referring to the “talking heads”? Don’t they get paid to do the thinking? It isn’t that I disagree with your statement, it’s just that us ordinary people don’t get paid to think.
There, think about it.
#15, sounds like you are trying to dance around that one.
17. “Would you be referring to the “talking heads”?”
Equating broadcast news in the US with “talking heads” would be like equating a house with aluminum siding.
#18, Whew, sure am glad we got wood siding !!!
Actually, to be serious, that was a profound statement on your part in #5. Well said.
When I hold a color chart up to him he appears brown or
maybe off black.
#19. Reading off a teleprompter or parroting partisan talking-points does not require any particular intelligence. Doing real, scathingly-funny parody the way John Stewart and Steven Colbert do, ya gotta be smart.
Ken, I understand where you are coming from, but must disagree. I know D.D. and we have discussed the issue of black ‘authenticity’ over the years. Her main point is that the way Americans of African descent are treated is determined largely by segregation and slavery. Both may be ‘over’ technically, but slavery and segregation are the reasons that people of color are still perceived as lesser beings.
Racists like Jägermeister want the matter under rug swept precisely so they can claim that the racism is no longer a factor in how people are treated.
Chitown, that aphorism is pretty accurate. Children of slave women were considered black so that slave masters (often the fathers) could hold them in bondage. Southern states continued to define persons with as little as one thirty-second African ancestry as black well into the 1960s. As a result, anyone perceived as having African ancestry is considered black in America. That sometimes includes people who don’t have any African ancestry or have attenuated African ancestry, such as Sicilians.
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Please cut all the crap out!!! these folks and i mean the white ones know what their ancestors did many centuries ago and still up to this day they still practice the same norms only that they are more concealed. The earlier they compensate for their wrongs past and present, the better, which will create the desired atmosphere for everybody to move on from black this, black that arguments> its time for our just dues!!!
“What does it say about our society when fake news and fake pundits are more informational than the real thing?”
Well, this show is all about entertainment. If politicians jobs were trying to make jokes 24/7 instead of these shows, then things would be different. Ya know… it’s one of those pop culture things.