Mastermind?
Jason Leopold and Marc Ash | Cheneys Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair — This story is evolving and because the big media has not jumped on it with professional analysis and judgment, the blogosphere will blow it out of proportion. The problem is that sometimes blowing things out of proportion causes excess research to be done and other facts to be uncovered. Weird things happen as in the Dan Rather episode. Let’s watch! Personally I think this is all wishful thinking done by Bush bashers.
Copies of handwritten notes by Vice President Dick Cheney, introduced at trial by defense attorneys for former White House staffer I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, would appear to implicate George W. Bush in the Plame CIA Leak case.
Bush has long maintained that he was unaware of attacks by any member of his administration against [former ambassador Joseph] Wilson. The ex-envoys stinging rebukes of the administrations use of pre-war Iraq intelligence led Libby and other White House officials to leak Wilsons wifes covert CIA status to reporters in July 2003 in an act of retaliation.
But Cheneys notes, which were introduced into evidence Tuesday during Libbys perjury and obstruction-of-justice trial, call into question the truthfulness of President Bushs vehement denials about his prior knowledge of the attacks against Wilson. The revelation that Bush may have known all along that there was an effort by members of his office to discredit the former ambassador begs the question: Was the president also aware that senior members of his administration compromised Valerie Plames undercover role with the CIA?
found by Mr. Justin
“But Cheneys notes, which were introduced into evidence Tuesday during Libbys perjury and obstruction-of-justice trial, call into question the truthfulness of President Bushs vehement denials”
Shouldn’t that be truthiness?
Wishful thinking is the idea that Bush won’t be impeached, and the Democratic party won’t get a twofer. By a twofer I mean Cheney also.
Just months away from President Pelosi folks. Haha, even notable liberals like Pat Buchanon think this is gonna/should happen.
Republicans and conservatives can suck on it The beautiful part is, moderate republicans are gonna (they really want to) help us. Also, this has nothing to do with the Democratic party. Bush and Cheney did this to themselves.
At this point the only question that remains, is the US gonna hand Bush over to the Hague for war crimes.
Let’s take this to its ultimate conclusion…
Could this be the end to the Bush Crime Syndicate?
Could this implicate Bush AND Cheney in this leak?
I sure hope so. It couldn’t happen to a better pair!
I don’t think it’s wishful thinking, I think it’s hopeful.
You know, like the ‘glass half-full’ guy!
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Short answer? No.
You know, like the ‘glass half-full’ guy!
Shouldn’ t that be ‘half-glass full’?
J/P=?
Hillary would be sooooooo pissed if Pelosi became the first female President.
Leopold and Ash have been so consistently wrong about this story that there is no basis for considering anything they say as credible in any way.
But, what does it matter? Plame was not a covert operative and the law wasn’t broken, or Libby, Rove, et al., would be on trial for outing her, not only Libby for perjury.
Wilson lied, the administration responded. There was no crime committed.
Whoa Mike, Wilson lied?!? I thought it has been proven that the whole ‘yellowcake Uranium’ thing was the lie, not Wilson. Maybe I am wrong, but that is what I recall.
Plame was not a covert operative and the law wasn’t broken…
Slick Wille didn’t inhale, or have sex with that woman.
Nixon wasn’t involved in the Watergate break-in, just the cover-up.
Reagan didn’t know anything about Iran-Contra.
There was no crime committed.
Nope. Just a lot of lying by our elected officials….
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You are right on! Wilson lied about who sent him on his “fact finding” trip. When he returned, he wrote his findings in the NYT. Odd place to write findings for an officially sanctioned trip.
It’s interesting that Libby is being draged through this trial but Sandy Berger steals documents from the National Archive and gets a sweet plea agreement.
Go figure
Mike, the crime was fabricating a reason for war. Wilson exposed that, and the rest is a sideshow.
Nixon and Clinton were impeached for crimes that make them look like jaywalkers compared to this bunch. What is it going to take to finally bring this tyrant down.
Sic Semper Tyrannus
No one will do anything and Bush will get away with it, just like when he lied about having court orders for his domestic spying program. You watch.
What weird things? Rather’s people did a solid news piece, backed by a bushel of documentation and extensive witness interviews, testifying to the widely known (for 30 years!) disappearance of Bush from his NG service to work on a political campaign. The story was covered first by the Boston Globe in 2000, in a front page lead. No one in five years dared to touch the story after the Globe did; it was understood that Rove and all the giant rightist corporate machines would grind anyone to dust if they touched that button.
Powerline, a far right blogger, declared the report a fraud even before he had seen it. He and some other bloggers faxed and refaxed bad copies of some of the documents until they were barely recognizable. They “decided” that IBM selectrics couldn’t do porportional spacing and superscripts, screamed “fraud!”, and demanded all sorts of this and that. One of Rather’s principals had an anonynous source who did not what to be identified, even tho she vouched for the accuracy of the report. Being the source of ONE of the many documents, she was declared a fraud, the doc was declared a fraud, and Rather and Mapes were declared purveyors of fraudulent documents. Whew. All from Powerline. And CBS executives, some of who were well known to be rightist or at least wanting to throw the rightist bosses the much-drooled-after Rather bone, decided to savage their own news team on such idiotic “evidence” of bad reporting that the urban legend of the innocent Bush and the gullible, incompetent Rather is now quoted even on the Daily Show.
Bush went AWOL for over 30 days, kids, and that was desertion. His records weren’t thoroughly wiped, hence the Globe and CBS finding what was left. He walked away from serving the rest of his time in Vietnam as a GI ’cause his daddy was a senator.
Mapes is suing, and I hope Rather joins her. This was a travesty.
Yes. Wilson lied. If you look at the 911 commission report you will find that Wilson’s trip CONFIRMED that Saddam was attempting to buy yellowcake. When he reported the opposite in his article he was, in fact, lying. These stories always refer to Ms Plame as a covert operative. According to the law, to be prosecuted, you must out an actual covert operative. Fitzgerald has chosen NOT to prosecute ANYONE for outing her because no law was broken. She was not covert. Period. If no law was broken, you can hardly expect Fitzgerald to indict Cheney or Bush. The only thing he can do is try to make a case about Libby’s memory about when he talked to who and what was said. Interesting that the indictment is over a difference of opinion on conversations between multiple people. He has no case.
Another thing. Reality isn’t a matter of viewpoint. It’s not a “liberal idea” that Bush and Cheney are up to their ass in the outing of a CIA asset to punish the husband of one of the NOC agents because husband called them liars, and quite accurately, too. It’s what happened. And unknown and sad local people probably died after the bastards revealed Plame’s organization to be a front. And it was a anti-Iran WMD asset, no less, so now conveniently we’ve no indendent CIA check on Bush’s wild Iranian threat claims, soon to be in an emergency war declaration near you.
You’re entitled to your notions, but not to your own reality. Things are, or are not. We’re on the verge of WW III here. Start weeding out your “centrist” biases and pay attention to what the hell has been going on.
#9
No. And completely irrelevant to the fact at hand that 1) the yellowcake story was false, and was widely understood to be for years 2) Italian intelligence gave faked docs to “prove” it , 3) Cheney decided, through the use of his own superintel agency of three dudes, the Office of Special Affairs, that the story was true and the CIA was wrong, ’cause he knew it was wrong, GOTO begining of loop. 4) Cheney decided to fry Wilson after Wilson outed his deciding to create his own special reality 5) who gives a flying fuck who sent Wilson.
God, I’d give almost anything to only have to worry about Monicagate again!
Can’t impeach Bush without a lot of Republicans voting with the Democrats. Won’t happen, even if Bush is caught en flagrante with a 4th grade class in an emperor sized bed. Give up the dream. He’s killed over a hundred thousand innocent civilians under false pretenses; if he got away with that, he’s untouchable courtesy of the Republicans.
However, I do wonder if he can be called to testify before Congressional committee, then locked up for contempt of Congress for refusal to provide subpoenaed information or give testimony? I’d love to see the Secret Service being told to drop their weapons and put thir hands behind their heads after they try to take out the Congressional cops. That’s entertainment.
Well, the good news is that it’s almost a certainty that this is the end of the Bush dynasty for quite some time.
Just remember it wasn’t Watergate it was the coverup that got Nixon.
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Nope. There are enough Bushes to continue the rape and pillage. Check out Ricky Martin Bush
http://hereinreality.com/gonewild.html
Bet you ten thousand US it never happens.
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ten thousand US? that’s like, 5 bucks canadian… No thanks.
Gawd. The jaw-dropping stupidity of defending Bush, Cheney, et al coming from the same crowd of cretins that bought into the Swift Boat smear and send money to Pat Robertson.
I wonder if those people even know how much they drool.
Not that anything will be done about the clear violation of law by people in the highest office. Nothing will be done, and cretins will use that lack of justice to argue that therefore no punishment was deserved. And the U.S. of A. will have another beer and go back to watching Fox television.
Does it even matter?
The Idiots In Power will remain there until the next Democrat President takes over (I can’t see any way that the Repugs are going to win the presidency again), and then history will take its turn and rapidly chew this presidency to the rubble that it deserves.
#23, malren,
And your mommy told you a million times not to exaggerate.
#24, Named,
Now don’t you be taking advantage of poor little malren. You know that is worth closer to $4.95 Canadian. Oopps, better make that $4.90 Canadian. Drat, changed again, $4.87 Canadian.
The picture is a riot.
Well, the good news is that it’s almost a certainty that this is the end of the Bushscourge for quite some time.
Fixed your typo.
God damn! It is truly unbelievable at the sheer lunacy exhibited by Bush haters. Libby is on trial for perjury, not for “outing” Plame. There was never any “outing” of Plame by the Bush administration. This fact was known to the Special Prosecuter during his first week on the job. Richard Armitage was the source of Robert Novak’s column. From the Washington Post: http://tinyurl.com/f6kdl
“Armitage’s involvement in the matter does not fit neatly into the assertions of Bush administration critics that Plame’s employment was disclosed as part of a White House conspiracy to besmirch Wilson by suggesting his Niger trip stemmed from nepotism at the CIA.”
But by all means, don’t let mere facts get in the way of your opinions. Hell, Dvorak Uncensored credible? Perish the thought!