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ASSOCIATED PRESS – December 29, 2006 via Overlawyered.com:
The North Carolina bar filed the ethics charges Thursday, accusing District Attorney Mike Nifong of violating four rules of professional conduct by making misleading and inflammatory comments about the athletes under suspicion.
The bar cited 41 quotations and eight paraphrased statements made to newspaper and TV reporters, saying many of them amounted to ”improper commentary about the character, credibility and reputation of the accused.”
Among them:
— Referring to the lacrosse players as ”a bunch of hooligans.”
— ”I am convinced there was a rape, yes, sir.”
— ”One would wonder why one needs an attorney if one was not charged and had not done anything wrong.”
Nifong also is charged with breaking a rule against ”dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation.” The bar said that when DNA testing failed to find any evidence a lacrosse player raped the accuser, Nifong told a reporter the players might have used condoms.
According to the bar, Nifong knew that assertion was misleading, because he had received a report from an emergency room nurse in which the accuser said her attackers did not use condoms.
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I have a couple or clips from articles two articles I read which I think are the real stories in this case. The rape and who said or did what has been widely documented and looked at to the nth degree. However these other issues have not been looked at yet but they soon will be. One is Nifong finances. I was unemployed once back in 1991 for six months. Luckily I was only 27 years old at the time and at the time I had no house or family to take care of. If that happened to me now I would be very scared. Nifong must be feeling the same thing. I think this is a huge motive. But how callous is he? He is willing to destroy three lives so he can keep his pension and his house. With a law degree he could have made a somewhat comfortable life in North Carolina unlike California where almost all housing is expensive even in rual Northern California which where I live. (Yuba City). Now he is in grave danger of losing his law license. I feel for his family but three young mens lives being ruined are not worth a house, vacation, etc. Below are quotes from two different articles. The first is about Nifong the second is about why women should not claim they were victims of rape.
By Thomas Sowell
He had worked in the District Attorney’s office for years and was appointed interim District Attorney himself only after the previous District Attorney left to become a judge. Now, Nifong faced a tough election against a woman he had once fired and who would undoubtedly fire him if she became District Attorney.
Where would that leave Nifong? Out on the street at an age when most people are not likely to be starting a new career. His pension as well as his job could be in jeopardy. Moreover, his opponent was favored to win the election
Now that so many of his misdeeds have been so widely publicized, Nifong’s agenda has to include keeping his job and avoiding disbarment or even being prosecuted himself
By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, political analyst and social issues commentator and the author of “The Emerging Black GOP Majority”
Published January 1, 2007
It leaves rape victims of any color and income wide open to the charge that they will falsely shout rape to cover up their sexual misdeeds. That could make police more hesitant to make arrests and prosecutors even more gun-shy about vigorously prosecuting rape cases.
It also makes black leaders, who are mostly male, more reluctant to vigorously denounce genuine sexual victimization crimes. That puts women, particularly black women, at greater risk from sexual attack. That’s a tragedy because sexual victimization is a deadly fact of life for countless numbers of women.
Mr. Parks,
I do not believe for a second Mr. Nifong was worried about losing an election and getting fired by Freda Black. Unfortunately, we will never know if that would have happened because the defense immediately made it a political issue.
This DA was very unfamiliar with how to deal with the media and run for office. He has never shown in the past to have any interest in running for office. Stop and think about what that means. He has been ill with cancer, and has spent time in traffic court because of it. He has shown no interest in wanting to be anything but an ADA even though the pay is low compared to other areas of law.
I don’t know if you are aware of the fact he turned down going to Duke U many years ago. He is known as a smart man and a very good litigator. He has had no problems in his past.
I simply do not believe he would do something illegal to win DA. He is not known as a political hound.
This case came along at the worst possible time for him. I don’t believe he is concerned for a so called pension. I am sure the loss of his house in not on the table. This man has a law degree. He can do anything he wants. With all of this publicity, he will write a book and make enough money to never have to work again. He will be wanted on every TV show.
He has done nothing to be disbarred for. Talking to the media won’t do it. This is an ethics violation which lawyers receive much more than you know and have done much worse things and received a slap on the wrist. He has stayed within the boundaries of the law in dealing with this case.
I have read and researched NC law, which is much different than other states. It is incredible the differences.
If that line up stays in and that girl tells him she can ID 100% even just one of the rapists than the trial will proceed against the one with the other charges dropped against the other two. That is an example.
In reading the NC rules of line ups, that line up in my opinion will stand.
This has been the most underhanded money and political connections I have ever seen. It is transparent. Believe you me, the feds investigating into what is happening in Durham is not what the rich and powerful want. The DA knows, after 27 years, where the skeletons are buried and all the corruption that has been going on there.
#127
It seems that Sharon LillyWhite-Troll now thinks highly of her self. To bad I didn’t care to read her post to see what her new character has to say.
btw Sharon LillyWhite-Troll a.k.a. self proclaimed SexyLady. This blog is about the Duke rape not you not being able to get me out of your head.
Regarding #130
I agree with you cowboy. The “female-victim-card” is over spent, and guys are finally getting wise that in a see of good women, there are coniving women and girls who use the “victim card” to get out of going to prison, manipulating others to do what they want, and crippling or over taking conversation… i.e. Sharon LillyWhite-Troll who’s now calling herself “Sexy Lady”. I wish she could just limit talking to her characters inside her head. She’s a joke and shouldn’t be taken seriously.
regarding #134
The articles make sense and puts more light on why DA Mike Nifong acted with such criminal misconduct in victimizing these innocent boys, but I can’t believe he was so stupid to conspire with the DNA lab to hide evidence proving the boys are innocent.
DNA is great, but I disagree with “Victim Advocacy Groups” that want DNA only to prove guilt, while lobbying that DNA evidence proving innocence should be ignored.
Regarding #129
Lauren the Ghoti ,
The Harry Potter Films made millions for Ms. Rowlings, and this malicious false rape claim will make millions for the three innocent Duke vicitms, and hopefully get the DA Mike Nifong disbarred for criminal misconduct and biting pillows in prison.
Sharon, my dear
I am just checking back to see how the case is going. Any more personalities identified?
I am working very hard on various boards right now. It seems all the trolls are coming out from under their bridges for the new year. lol
Of course I am not hunting trolls on this blog. I just stop by to talk with you. I see a certain poster is hot for you. Watch out for Nice Guy. He is not in your league, my dear. He is just dreaming.
Lovingly,
The Troll Hunter
Now get back on topic people.
I agree with the Troll Hunter Sharon,
This poster, Nice Guy, is prolly a 13 year old boy who urinates on his neighbors lawn and sneaks to use his rich daddy’s computer when he is at work. He should be in school.
Disgusting.
Well, I never. Whats wrong with the hooligans on this here message writer.
Talkin bout that poor youngin like she shouda been raped. Even back in my day were cooing involved rapen, I never seen such a thing.
All those rapen men treated us with respect and such.
It is sad to see times a changen like this.
That there Nice Guy is an abomination to rapen and cooing men all over this here world a ours.
Shucks
I agree with that rant NotAmused.
Then join the discussion on the Dvorak Cage Match:
http://cagematch.dvorak.org/index.php/topic,766.0.html
I can’t stand having discussions in the blog comments.
Cowboy:
I hope someone you love does not have a crime committed against them and they are humiliated, attacked and profaned for it.
Your comment: “I hope someday you are charged with a crime you did not commit and a rogue prosecutor tries to nail you” is sick, and proof you care little for human dignity.
Yes, the world may need fools, but it needs to get rid of inhumane bastards.
Jeez, I need a fucking shower.
I believe these guys are innocent and I also money should be able to buy a better defense. These Kids parents are spending a fortune because they worked hard and weren’t welfare strippers
The Duke boys are innocent, it’s the hooker who lied, but that lie couldn’t have gone so far and be so destructive without the criminal misconduct of DA Mike Nifong, that DNA lab, and all others he conspired with to win this election.
I can’t believe anyone could be so cold to sacrifice the lives of three innocent boys so he can win an election.
Everyone should take note to recognize these actions of all involved with promoting this false rape claim. Don’t let it happen in your area. Remember 50% of all rape claims are malicious and false.
Yesterday there was a xxx film or whatever playing on the Venus 4 channel on the Canadian satellite BEV
It was taken at a party held by a group of what appeared to be college age males with a smattering of same age females. No location given or could be identified. Draft beer in plastic cup type crowd.
The whole scene was dominated by males having a whole gamut of sex with a handful of obviously hired party girls.., you know, stripper type clothing and a willingness to latch on to any so inclined male.A bit of girl/girl action. No signs of coercion. They were paid and happily promised to return anytime.You just had to be there to get the full effect. Others have told me that this is a regular occurrence at colleges everywhere.
Moral of the story———- Get it in writing
Look, everyone:
The frat boys deserve their woes. When you hire an “affirmative action” type, you KNOW that you are going to get sued, have a workman’s comp claim, or other woes.
That’s why I don’t hire them.
The dumb punks should know better, and they deserve their grief.
I hire only polite WHITE people; my customers like that, my accountants like that, and I like that!
Regarding #150
Why do guys have to pay for it?
Girls out number guys 4 to 1 in college, and the girls feel the pressure. Usually there’s more girls at these parties and they’re the most aggressive from what I remember, but I was always goal oriented. Heck! You can’t even walk into the library without being checked out. pun unintended. I totally loved college!
The larger parties usual dissapate into smaller groups by the end of the night, and I was always happy with the girls I ended with, and it’s always easy to study and concentrate on school when you know you don’t have to compete to get laid regularly.
I guess I never really gave it much thought since hooking up was kinda the thing in college. Friday and Saturday the dorms were pumping! also pun unintended.
I don’t remember people “doing it” right there in front of everyone. I do remember video cameras and exposed boobs – I still got home vids of that, but full on “humping”? nah!
Raconteur #150, could it be possible that the porn you were watching was staged?
Don’t get baited
There is a person on this blog who is trying to manipulate the entire blog. Don’t let her do it. Her and her many personas have totally taken over other blogs.
Don’t get baited into responding to her (i.e. #151, #139, #140, #141, #143)
152 Nah, Some staging possible but Like I said you had to see it for yourself. Btw I am in complete agreement with what you have said. If the flames are to come let them be from the other side.
#147, I’m with ya bro. Cripes this is disgusting.
My God….what the hell is this??????
You continued this post and brought it to the top again for what??????
This garbage gets an extended life and the posts that actually are having good discussions going on are passed on to Archive oblivion….
After reading the verbal filth of about 120 of the comments by obviously fake names above…..I have to say….you guys had better NEVER edit one of my posts again.
This is actually sad and disgusting.
Yeah John, c’mon man, pulled the trap door on this already, send it to hell with Saddam.
So far I see the prosecutor, the college boys, the woman, OJ Simpson and pretty much everyone who has made a commented being condemned in repulsive terms. Lots of shit-throwing in the apehouse. Remind me – why does this keep getting cycled back up to the top?
I’m with Joshua on this one. Have mercy. Let this awful thread die.
What has happened at the Duke Lacrosse involves:
1) Criminal misconduct by the DA Mike Nifong.
2) Conspiracy to hide evidence by the DA and the DNA lab.
3) Three innocent boys caught in the middle and had their lives destroyed.
4) The “race card” being played by blacks who want to claim title in being victims while promoting the same type of racism they claim to be against or have sufferred from.
5) The “woman card” being played claiming that all women should be wihtout question, believed as long as they claim rape. If they’re not believed, than it’s because of men who are all evil.
6) The destroyed lives of men and boys accused of rape.
7) The Duke University and 88 staff who instead of demanding justice, turned against the innocent boys to join the pack of wolves attacking these boys.
These are all good topics to talk about, and should be. The public should be quicker to recognize corruption in our government and unfair laws that protect women who falsely accuse innocent boys of rape, or it will continue to happen over and over again, and maybe next time is will stain or hurt someone close to you.
6)
Talking about it is fine, but this turned ugly and offensive. juvenile and twisted. When it turns into mudslinging, nothing gets accomplished. And I am NOT offended easily.
#159 – I agree w/ points 4 & 5
I discovered a fact today which just enforces my theory on money and political connections to slam the DA.
One of the boys has a new lawyer by the name of James P. Cooney III who appeared at the Dec 15th hearing. He served on a special committee for the NC bar in the investigation of the Hoke/Graves disciplinary charges in 2005. Two weeks after the hearing ethics charges were brought against the DA. To bring administrative ethics charges against a DA for running his yap to the media in the middle of a trial is unheard of. It is becoming more and more transparent how money and political connections are buying these slimes their freedom and destroying a DA for no good reason.
Mark, you need to go get some cheese to stuff in that crybaby mouth of yours to go with your whine.
Nice Guy, what is the woman card? Is that something on the order of the Clock Exam? If you hadn’t pumped your way through college, you might have learned something.
What does some sleazy porno film have to do with this case?
Only 2% of reported rapes are false.
Good goin deary. Don’t let the men folk on here git away wifin the good ole boy shit.
Love ya too babe.