ASSOCIATED PRESS – November 23. 2006:

The Reverend elected to take over as president of the Christian Coalition of America said he will not assume the role because of differences in philosophy.

The Rev. Joel Hunter, of Longwood’s Northland, A Church Distributed, said Wednesday that the national group would not let him expand the organization’s agenda beyond opposing abortion and gay marriage.

Hunter, who was scheduled to take over the socially conservative political group Jan. 1, said he had hoped to focus on issues such as poverty and the environment.

“These are issues that Jesus would want us to care about,” Hunter said.

“They pretty much said, ‘These issues are fine, but they’re not our issues, that’s not our base,'” Hunter said.



  1. god says:

    There really isn’t much need to go into details anymore. I think it’s a dead heat between major organized religions like Muslims and Christians when it comes to being hypocrites.

  2. Mike Voice says:

    Longwood’s Northland, A Church Distributed

    Did a double-take on that.

    Took me a second to realize that was the name of the church.

    “These issues are fine, but they’re not our issues, that’s not our base.”

    Sad to see he thought he was going to be leading a religious coalition, not a political one…

    Nice to see he could let it go… once it showed its’ true colors.

  3. rctaylor says:

    Matthew 26:11
    I guess they took it to heart.

  4. Ab Cd says:

    Good for them. I don’t want to see more Christian leaders focusing on global warming, which is one of the biggest ways to increase poverty.

  5. JSFORBES says:

    What do you expect John? You can’t help the impoverished while gays are destroying the earth!

  6. Tom says:

    Well, as was said long ago, the “Moral Majority” is neither…
    My hat is off to the Reverend for sticking to his principles!

  7. Mr. Fusion says:

    A man with his head screwed on right.

    A couple of days ago we were discussing the religious right giving more in charity then liberals do. Well, this is where that money goes. Another quality charity doing the work of Jesus.
    http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8099#comments

  8. Frank says:

    There’s always a judgement call to be made here as to whether charity helps lift the person out of poverty or encourages it. Personally I’d rather make that call and contribute to charities I find helpful in lifting people out of poverty. Also, not every Christian organization needs to be involved in charity. It is important for every Christian to be chartiable though.

    BTW I bought my used DVD of the Passion for a few dollars.

  9. ECA says:

    I wonder how much this group gets paid??
    How much of the funds given tot he church ends up in their pockets.

    Do not Judge another person soul. HE judges himself. Judge only a persons actions unto YOU.

  10. Max Bell says:

    *Applauds wildly*

    Forget the politics and agendas a moment. This is actually a positive for both sides of the dispute, because the expression of differences allows them to establish priorities. No doubt the difference in ideology will be met with outrage, but at least the organization will maintain coherence.

    Personally, I much prefer such groups be visible and tightly clustered.

    Area-effect weapons are wasted on individuals. 😛

    In seriousness, though, this made me realize that I am, in fact, grateful to see the kinds of idealogical shifts that occasionally leave me feeling nostalgic for the days of “real” Republicans and “real” Christians. A certain level of sentimentalism is inevitably part of the maturation process — new bands produce albums that just don’t have the same impact as old favorites, but it’s a common and easy mistake to think that the impression means that the quality of music has fallen. One’s favorites are the product of experiences and associations with the music that have nothing to do with it’s quality or content.

    Idealogical shifts like this one are fantastic, because they allow one to more clearly identify commonalities and differences within a group with respect to one’s own ideology. While I’ve long had differences with political conservatives and Christians, the day I find I just can’t get happy over discovering common ground with them I may as well pull the plug and catch the bus.

    4: So what you’re saying is that if I pull the catalytic converter off my car and eat more kimchee, people won’t be as poor?

  11. Milo says:

    “Also, not every Christian organization needs to be involved in charity.”

    Yes they do.

  12. traaxx says:

    Must each group that a Christian is member of focus on poverty? If the organization was formed for political purposed, which is was, and operates as such then trying to move an organization over to tax exempt purposes wouldn’t make much sense. I won’t expect Leftist, which as we’ve seen in studies only are effect at spending everyone else’s money, to see this point but then they don’t really obey laws anyway, as we saw when Clinton and Gore were raising campaign funds. Leftist are good at using the law to put orgainzation out of operation, instead of meeting them in open debate.

    In so far as what would Jesus do you can look at the bible, He would try and change the people around him and heal them while showing God’s Supreme Glory and Holiness. Currently in a secularist society this falls into two seperate catagories political, taxalbe, and charity, non-taxable.

    As for Hipocrites since we demand that these issues be seperate then our society is the hipocrite. How much do Muslims give versus Christians. Muslims give what 1/1000 of their income, Christians give 1/10 ot their income, is this the standard we are using, or is it the missionaries that are operated by the groups. When was the last time you saw a Muslim operated homeless center, in Portland Or we have several Christian homeless centers.

    As for Pastor Hunter, what exactly was he thinking seeking such an office just to try and derail it. Was this planned, certainly sice he has a doctorate he would of been able to think out the problems with such a change in enphasis. If more ooards would reject such effortsl to divide an orgainzations energies then more could be accomplished, but then that’s what has the pagan, atheist if you like, non-christians upset isn’t it. This does once again show this sites judgemental anti-christian prejudice. The tech is cool, but the politics is very one sided.

  13. Milo says:

    traaxx is having trouble sorting out Caesar from God.

  14. KB says:

    The Reverend elected to take over as president of the Christian Coalition of America said he will not assume the role because of differences in philosophy.

    The phrase “difference in philosophy” is a buzzphrase within these organizations which signals that there is a political battle brewing. It’s generally a power struggle rather than a genuine difference of opinion over what needs to happen.

    The good guys usually lose, because they are outvoted by the Immoral Majority.

  15. Mr. Fusion says:

    #12, traaxx
    I won’t expect Leftist, which as we’ve seen in studies only are effect at spending everyone else’s money, to see this point but then they don’t really obey laws anyway, as we saw when Clinton and Gore were raising campaign funds.

    Would you care to reiterate this sentence. I can not make sense of it. The rest of your post is unintelligible too. It sounds so much like, … christian babble.

  16. ECA says:

    I was approached by a few religious folks to discuss their religion, and maybe to join them in church.
    I asked a few questions:
    Do you try to teach in the middle east?
    they said yes..

    I said..Sence the educational level in those countries is so lacking, 30-40% literacy, why not teach them to read first.
    they said…that they have schools and education.

    I asked.. Then sence there religion is preached by those that are ignorant, why NOT teach them their OWN beliefs, and how to understand them?
    They had no comment.


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