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Hell, even I think that’s funny. Hopefully Pelosi can drive through a plan that forces a withdrawl without specific dates our enemies can hindge on, which if happens will be a much larger feather-in-the-cap than yesterday’s election.
Hey Dvorak…Now that the election is over, maybe you will actually start blogging about something you actually may be qualified to discuss…computers…*gasp*…
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Well, THAT was a useless comment! JCD can blog about ANYTHING he wants.
And since when has JCD ever been qualified to discuss computers? Have you talked to any Apple fanboys about him?
Kind of funny how they cropped that. I guess it wasn’t ‘Mission Accomplished’ like it wasn’t ‘stay the course.’
Newspeak if I ever heard it.
For those who screwed up big time, and we don’t need to mention any specific President’s name, denial is now the operative word. Or is a flip flop?
If only the course of human history were as easy to edit as photos and videos, we could PhotoShop our way to peace. Failing that, however, my second choice for video revision of this event would be to change the “Mission Accomplished” banner to read “Mission Impossible” in the interest of greater accuracy.
I’m not sure what effect yesterday’s election can have on the course of the war, since the Commander-in-Chief has consistently vowed to stay the course, regardless of public opinion. That’s why the “What’s your plan?” challenge put forth by Republicans to their Democratic opponents always seemed rather disingenuous, as if even a Democratic majority in Congress could start making major foreign policy decisions. That’s a much better challenge for the 2008 presidential race.
#6 – The catch is that the left took the house riding the anti-Iraq wave. If they can’t deliver changes then what’s going to make people think a Democrat in the White House can make it happen?
Granted, using that logic means yesterday’s loss of the house may have been a win for those on the right thinking of running for President in ’08, but that logic may have some weight to it.
#7. I agree that its time to pony up now that the other party has the house and maybe the senate. I strongly disagree that its the “left” that won. This election was a strong statement of disapproval on the party in power.
If the Democrats screw the pooch they deserve the same treatment & I’ll vote accordingly.
The real question will be does the jackass in the white house get the hint.
The catch is that the left took the house riding the anti-Iraq wave
I think the left took the house riding the anti-incompetence, anti-corruption, anti-hypocrisy, anti-authoritarian, anti-big-brother, anti-scandal, anti-corporate-welfare, and anti-warmongering waves.
It was far far more than just Iraq.
Indeed, #7, the Democrats may well have set themselves up for the public’s future disappointment in their failure to change the course of foreign policy for the next two years, if that’s what the public is really expecting.
For now, maybe it’s enough to get rid of a few folks who would do it all again if given the chance, but as things get worse we may want to see something more. For the next round of our battle, though, we have a few extra Democrats who now hold the incumbent advantage.
#7 – “the left took the house”? WTF? All these leftists came out of the closet to vote? Or is it that the current administration is so far right the the center looks like left?
As I’ve said before, “Mission Accomplished” was a failed bit of worthwhile psychological warfare to cause the insurgency to quickly give up. And as that canny war analyst, JCD, and I have explained, the war was won at that point in any case because with Saddam & sons gone, with the Iraqi elections, with the Kurds and Shi’ites in majority – the minority Sunnis and its Bath Party could never hope to rule again: Mission Accomplished. Or close enough for the girls I go out with. The Democrats should be very proud, seeing that they voted for the war 29-21.
I now look forward to the Democrats blocking the current strategy designed to prevent insurgency from turning into a useless civil war; and quickly bringing the troops home so they can win the presidency in two years.
One more thing. Geez I hate amateurish propaganda. The editors only needed to zoom into (a slightly grainier) Bush to avoid the bar at the bottom and the offending sign. Or place some profound quote along the bottom like George Patton’s “That’s why America will never lose a war…”
RBG
#9, I don’t think the Republicans have a lock on any of those over the Democrats. If you watch the news at all, there’s been enough to go around on all sides…
To think that the Left took over with original IDEAS versus an ANTI-IRAQ campaign is, well… fantasy. People have short attention spans and are dismayed that the war is taking this long and want change.
You must’ve missed the analysis that nearly every major network broadcast was showing of how every single major war since the Civil War has booted the party in power OUT, even if the war results were favorable many years later. People simply don’t like war and if it lasts more than a few years, there is a political price to pay, which their opponents successfully capitalize on…
I think it’s wrong to cut and run, but that’s been beaten to death.
Oops, I meant to add that I think the Republicans lacked original IDEAS in 2004 and basically won on the NATIONAL SECURITY wave.
People realized/felt, at least at that time, that we needed to stay in Iraq and see this thing through over there, rather than cut and run and allow the war to come back onto our soil.
#8, #11 – It wasn’t the left that got the left elected yesterday, but it is the left that’s benefiting. To say this is a win for anyone else is, at best, spin.
#9 – If the left thinks that then they’ve doomed themselves to failure. The election became all about the war, not the people being voted for.
#10 – I actually think Pelosi will shock some people, and won’t move as far to the left as expected. If she plays her cards smart she’ll come out of this smelling like roses.
The black bar is probably a space for networks to put their graphics. All the videos on that page have a black bar just like that, there was no manipulation.
Unless that guy, James Hill, is constantly on the troll, which is what it looks like to me, I cannot understand why he continually appears to equate Democrats with the left ?!? My fondest wish is that the Dems will forsake the drunken power orgy we have witnessed from the Repugnantcans and do something about the blatant infringements to the Constitution..start with that Patriot Act.
#17 – Your worship is noted.
The reason I continue to equate the Democrats to the left is because the new House leadership will be entirely from the left of the party, despite Conservative Democrats being the big winners yesterday.
Likewise, the outgoing Republican leadership can be called conservative because they were mostly from the right, despite Moderate Republicans being the one who brought the party to power in ’94.
Since you called me a troll, that allows me to call you “owned”. Have a nice day.
this erasing/re-writing history was all predicted 60 years ago by Orwell in his book “1984”.
MUST READ FOR THOSE WHO WANT A BETTER GRASP OF WHAT’S GOING ON TODAY.
I’m not a fan of Bush or the war and sent this around the office.
Someone sent me the link below
I hate politics, nothing is the truth. I just want the truth…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRHki5P6fc
(yes, yes, I can’t handle the truth…)
Oh hell, the Republicans didn’t cover up “Mission Accomplished” because it wasn’t true (is that the same as a lie?) but because it was true – at least in WWII terms. At that point we had toppled a government and removed a despot from power. We had won, at least in terms of rolling tanks and hearing locals cheer.
The Bushies don’t want us to remember that ecause they stayed, going after oil (if we leave now the terrorists will get the oil, said Cheney, after years of denying oil had anything to do with it). And sank us into a murderous, terrorist-recruiting quagmire.
They should’ve left while they were ahead. But that was never the neocon style, was it.
Jebus, how many times with the whole “Mission Accomplished” crap be re-tread.
WE KNOW IT WASN’T ACCOMPLISHED.
That dude is a putz.
A bit of history behind the “Mission Accomplished” declaration:
I seem to recall an interview with General Tommy Franks in which he stated that the whole “Mission Accomplished” declaration was his idea. He stated that this was an attempt to get some of the countries that pledged money towards the war effort to pony up!
perfect proof we live in a “1984” times 🙂
Once Bush is gone watch the same video removed or replaced hahaha 🙂
actually its not funny anymore :/
#22: This story isn’t about Mission Accomplished. It’s about the White House attempting to rewrite history.
I see what you mean, Uncle Dave. Those guys edited out everything Bush said before and everything after his comment above.
Huh? But just waitaminit. Wait a cotton-pick’n minute. You guys are just so hilariously funny, it’s not funny.
Look at the first Bush video still and then compare it to the following “smoking gun” still – the one with the tall, non-video aspect ratio. It then becomes crystal clear that even if you were to move the camera framing up in the video, it wouldn’t even come close to revealing that banner. In fact, none of the scene behind Bush is to be seen in the second photo indicating the video camera was originally aimed much lower. The first has the camera aimed down so you see a jet on the deck; the second up so you see way up to the bridge of the ship and even above.
Talk about your trying to rewrite history, not so mention a level of pathetic self-righteous bum-fodder not often seen.
RBG
But maybe that should be “not to mention a level of self-righteous bumfodder you might expect.”
RBG