Dvorak Uncensored has an open request for photos from the Mexico CIty protests. Links and original photos welcome. Post in comments or send email to john@dvorak.org.
Aljazeera.Net – Mexico: A Yellow revolution brewing? — The first place I could find photos of the approximate half million to one million people protesting in Mexico city was on Al-Jazeera. Why is a news site in Qatar covering news like this when the New York Times has the story buried in favor of Middle East coverage and G8 chat-chat. Hey, this is next door! How about covering it!
On July 8, Lopez Obrador, often referred to as Amlo (his initials), attracted a crowd up to half-a-million people who poured into Mexico City’s main square, known as the Zocalo, proving that the best political card in his hands right now is his ability to mobilise the masses.
For hours the world’s second-biggest square (after Tiananmen in Beijing) was coloured with yellow, the colour of Lopez Obrador’s Democratic Revolution Party.
It was an outpouring of public support similar to the Orange Revolution that gripped Kiev after disputed elections there in 2004.
Those photos have to be the tip of the iceberg. Hopefully someone in one of those office buildings has some good hi-def digital shots. we can get hold of.
The guy wants to win this election illegaly and is using social pressure (mainly poor, indigenous people who have no actual *individual thinking and rationalizing capacity*)
This is how George Bush won. Just replace poor and indigenous with right wingnuts and evangelical.
Well, if these voting machines are so easy to crack why don’t we geeks go out and rig the next election? Security holes can work for both sides. OpenSourceElectionFraud.org LOL
yes, every bodies knows that there was fraude, is the only way that calderon could win, we don’t have to forget the rule that bush play in those events, how could he permit a leftist governament next to his home?
simple as that: count vote per vote, one by one and see who won the elections
is very simple, or maybe is too simple???????????
If it’s more photos you want, I often find Flicker to be a great source for news photos “from the people”. Here’s a photo set from the gathering/
sore loser. in todays elections, if you (canidate) think the people chose the wrong guy, SUE, and your sure to win
He needs to take a note from Al Gore and just give in the towel then tell all the mexicans about global warming
The E.U. and the U.N. had observers in Mexico for the elctions. Also many individual countries(Britain, Germany) sent observers, all at the goverments and the party of Obredor request to see if there might be fraud or not. Everyone of them said no fraud was seen or reported to any of them.
Obrador has many times in the past used mass rally’s to show his supposed strength, so the fact that he’s doing it again isn’t surprising.
This election was probably the fairest election Mexico has ever had. The rules were brought in after the last election as a result of the old PRI party holding 70 years of fraudulant elections. As the writers above said, the election commission is made of of people from all parties and the rules were agreed to by all parties.
A few words on Fox……he has had a rough term in office, though he won the Presidency, his party was only secon in the Congress and the PRI and Obradors party stopped almost every reform move he introduced. They both felt that if he failed, then one of them would get the Presidency again.
Cardenas may be luckier, because now the PRI knows they aren’t going to win back the Presidency, and they will be more willing to compromise with Fox’s(Cardenas) party to pass real reform laws and get the economy going.
oh…and John….there was a good deal of coverage in the London Times and the BBC. as well as your hometown favorite (tongue in cheek) Fox news. I’ll see if I can acess any of their photo’s.
(Former?) BBC reporter Greg Palast has written a nice article titled “Grand theft Mexico” in The Guardian. Apparently, Bush inserted a 911 reference when asking the intelligence agencies to steal election data from Mexico. Here is the blurb: The election race south of the US border is officially too close to call. Now, where have we heard that before?
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/greg_palast/2006/07/stealing_mexico_an_election_di.html
Joshua — the two previous elections where Obrador’s “defeat” was overturned were overturned by the courts for corruption, conspiracy and fraud by the government officials running the election.
Actually, he’s batting 2 for 2 on election challenges.
This got deleted in the spam meltdown. Incidentally1, the column is dated July 17th, not July 3rd like the other Guardian reference above. Incidentally2, various sources give various depictions of what happened and the descriptions sound like *different elections*.
Article outlining the case for election fraud in The Guardian:
http://tinyurl.com/jpt2q
read the comments too, to get more sides to the story.
If I understand correctly, Galbraith mentions that the conservative candidate getting a large majority in some ballot boxes is evidence of fraud. Here in BC (British Columbia, not Baja California) the conservative party typically can get huge majorities in the wealthy areas, while the voting in the mixed and poorer areas is closer. In one election, the conservative party got the majority of votes, but the social democrat party got more seats and formed the government. So I’d have to disagree with Galbraith on that.
The above is misleading enough to be incorrect. The UN had 87 observers in Mexico City, and they were not “monitors,” while there are over 120,000 polling places. Because of the issue of national sovereignty, Obrador and Mexico had requested no “monitors,” and the international component of oversight was similarly slim.
On the reality of fraud, please see my comments below:
[RE: “Recounting Our Way to Democracy”
RE: “In Mexico, the Man Who Wouldn’t Yield”]
To the Editor:
As an American who observed Mexico’s July 2nd elections from the vantage point of the McClatchy bureau in Mexico City, and who has closely followed the debacle since, I am dismayed that our media report this as a “clean” election.
In thousands of cases, official tally sheets posted outside polling placed did not match those on the box. And that sheet did not match the sheet inside the sealed box, and that sheet did not match the ballots. In hundreds of cases, more votes were reported from stations than ballots were issued.
And so on. In tens of districts, outlying stations reporting to a central station mysteriously reported the exact same number of votes as each other. Equally mysteriously, in areas favoring Obrador, far more votes were cast for Senators than President, while the opposite is true for Calderon.
On July 2nd, the UNDP’s Ray Kennedy, an elections expert, summarized the fatal flaw of the IFE: in 2006, it was supervised by a group of young managers, who didn’t have enough administrative experience to realize they didn’t know what could go wrong in an election. In the end, the problem was “there were not enough people around to watch the ballot box.”
The consequences of such a lack of oversight are clear. In the weeks after the election, one PRD official related the experience of requesting that a ballot box be reopened: he had pointed out that the number of votes reported on the box differed from the official count, and that the total number of votes was greater than the number of ballots issued.
The PAN, PRI, and IFE representatives promptly voted him down. He protested the clear injustice. And the PAN representative turned to him, smiling coldly, and said “then that will material for your electoral challenge.”
Kenneth Thomas
[Global Advanced-Leadership Center]
Bowling Green, KY
Mexico City, D.F.
P.S. John– I have hundreds of photos not downloaded from my digicam; I’ll try to find a few special ones. -K