Trojan Nuclear Cooling Tower Implosion — Over the weekend they blew up a cooling tower and took a lot of movies of the explosion. Nice. But does anyone think this looks a little familiar? WTC 7 for example?
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“But does anyone think this looks a little familiar? WTC 7 for example?”
Tacky. Just classless and tacky.
why tacky? Classless? What is your problem? Did you actually look at the site re: WTC7?? Or no?
John – No, it doesn’t look like it, at all.
I mean, other than its a collapsing structure and they all have similarities in how they look. No it doesn’t look like it.
Yeah I’m totally clueless about your comments also rwilliams254.
I took a look… and was reaffirmed in the belief that not all opinions are valid.
The picture and subject of blowing up a cooling tower is interesting in and of itself: No need to bait with a WTC reference.
The next step is a Mac article where you reference the WTC falling like Mac market share before the Intel switch and Windows dual-boot talk.
And I bet they charge the Electrical users, MORe money, and not the stock holders…
Looks like any other bldg demolition done with explosives. Watch the Discovery Channel and see the same thing. This has been done the same way for decades.
“why tacky? Classless? What is your problem? Did you actually look at the site re: WTC7?? Or no? ”
Apparently the events that happened on September 11, 2001 are now used as a punch line.
Great debunking 9/11 myths story from Popular Mechanics I recently discovered:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
read page 5 for the WTC 7 parts
FTA:
“NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris (from the two towers) than the FEMA report indicated.”
( ) are mine
And I agree with rwilliams. Using a 9/11 conspiracy to bump up interest for an already cool video is just a cheap shot.
Unfortunately it worked because it prompted me to post 🙁
In other news, this week’s Dvorak Uncensored Conspiracy Theory club will be meeting in the phone booth outside the library.
The infrared footage is cool.
Cripes. You guys! It’s only a punchline when it’s appropriate. Still looks like WTC7 to me. Can someone explain how that fell out of the blue? No plane hit it.
Dvorak, I just read the paper by Steven E. Jones. Those plumes he points out really puzzle me, and the speed that the buidlings going down certainly seems odd after what he said about the laws of physics. Weird.
This is what the damage should have looked like
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/taiwan_six.jpg
Not the neat, self contained pile of rubble…. You’re right it makes no sense!
@ 17, er did you read the paper? It’s not as wacky nor far fetched as you might think. It is apparently quite far fetched to suppose that a building as strong as WTC7, could be brought down in such a manner without the use of controlled explosives. There were 2 small fires reported in the building prior to it ‘collapsing’. It did not get hit by a plane at any point. There has never before nor since been a case of a modern steel construction building falling down because of fire, even extremely intense ones. Just look at this building… http://wtc7.net/docs/la_fire_lg_c.jpg it didn’t fall down, it had a lot of intergrity left in it! WTC7 wasn’t anywhere near approaching this kind of intensity and even it was, would still have been plenty of intergral strengh left in it. The manner in which the building fell is highly characteristic of controlled explosions if you A and B with demolishions involving cutting charges such as the one called Southwark Towers here http://www.implosionworld.com/cinema.htm.
Why you put a link to a UFO in relation to this is beyond me but it is impressive footage, very well done CGI? Mever seen it before and quality is too low to determine anything about it.
The Murrow Federal Building in Oklahoma nearly came down when one side of the building was destroyed. As far as I am aware, there were no fires at all after Rider truck blew up (if there were, they were small fires). That building was very lucky to be left standing. If there had been intense fires raging for 7 to 8 hours (as reported at WTC7), the Murrow building may have come down as well.
The Popular Science report mentioned early states that the WTC7 building had diesel powered generators on multiple floors. I assume these were installed at the request of the paying customers that wanted power backups for their businesses. Several had fuel tanks on the upper floors. One generator had a very large fuel tank in the basement that would pump fuel to the upper level where the generator was situated. If this fuel pump was operational, I imagine it could have pumped hundreds of gallons of diesel to the upper floors to fuel the fires which, as mentioned before, burned to 7 to 8 hours. With the massive chaos and half of the firefighters killed, I can see how this might have been overlooked.
The report states that WTC7 was clipped by one of the falling towers. A massive gash was on the side nearest the towers was witnessed. That gash would have severely weakened the structure of the building and the fires would have weakened it even more until it failed.
But even without the fire, it might have still fallen long after the initial impact as the metal and concrete structure yielded due to the intense strain caused by changes in load path of the building’s load bearing structure.
I don’t see any real evidence for a massive conspiracy here. If you have ever seen how demolition crews bring down large structures, they first weaken the building by partially cutting the support members (but not completely). The explosives, which are custom designed shape charges and mounted to the weakened support structures, could not have been hidden from the building’s superintendent or even from the people that occupied the building. It would have required a large team of demolition workers with jack jammers, blow torches, large custom made shape charges, and a couple of miles of wiring to set off the charges in a preset sequence to bring down a building that size.
This could not have gone unnoticed by someone. It just flat could not have happened that way.
John…
The whole theory of WTC7 being intentionally demolishes is pure bunk, unless you believe that here were WEEKS of advance preparation. You want us to believe that somehow they secretly went into the building and in a few hours wired up enough explosives to do a controlled demolition? Yeah right… next thing we know you will claim that having more than 1GB of RAM in a computer is a proven waste of money.
POINT ONE: financial disaster of nuclear energy
>> Built for $460 million in the 70s, Trojan was approved to be decommissioned at a $429 million total cost.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=111&sid=792664
Here’s my vote: we fully pay for these old nuclear power failures before we build new one.
POINT TWO: This and the WTC
As for the similarity between this and the WTC.
This power plant, like all the imploded buildings I’ve seen, implode pretty soon after the explosion. This is not at all like the WTC.
There were THOUSANDS of people watching the WTC towers going down. Some were even in the building.
Have any of them reported hearing or seeing explosions just before the implosion? Surely, if the building was intentionally detonated, there would be video evidence.
GregAllen,
Have you seen Loose Change 911 yet?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
That covers it quite nicely.
Paul, the ‘expert’ testimony hasn’t stood up to scrutiny from people who want answers, that’s why there are free thinking people in the world who want to question the official position and not just swallow what the government says is true. Why did the evidence from the disastor get so quickly melted down for example, when it was probably the most important scientific evidence about how the integrity of the scructure failed? When a plane crashes, as many pieces of it as possible are collected so that reconstructive analysis can be done assisted using computer models. With a disastor on such scale, you’d have thought they would at least have stored it somewhere for a few years. Nope, it was melted down, quickly.
There are what arrear to be demolition squibs going off down the buildings far below the impact zone as the buildings fall, eye witness reports of explosions coming from deep underground were reported but never dwelled on ‘after’ the event, when building this big fall naturally they would pancake due to the resistance of the floors below, they would also NOT fall in a neat little pile they would topple like a tree.
People just read the darn thing before you comment on it!
Hey that video is very interesting Greg, nice one… the eye witness reports of explosions, mainly by the firefighters, is of particular note.
Greg,
I’ll look at your video when I get back on broadband.
I am NO fan of Bush but I just can’t believe they would do mass murder of our own citizens.
Also, if you say our government did it, it just raises a ZILLION guestions.
We all witnessed the very moment Bush learned of 911. Did he look like a man who was expecting this to happen? (Heck, I don’t think he even remembered reading the PDB warning of it. ) If he was expecting it, I think he would have faked “can do” leadership.
Also, if the government imploded that building, don’t you think someone would have noticed people wiring up the place with explosives?
That’s just TWO of a practically endless string of questions you have to ask if you believe out Government did this.
No, I think bin Laden did this, pretty much as reported.
If fire brought down the towers and WTC7 then why do demolition companies not use fire which is cheaper than explosives? Why spends weeks to wire up a building to implode and fall withing its own footprint and have to pay hundreds of employees when all it would take is starting a fire from airplane fuel and setting off a huge explosion on the top of the structure to simulate a 747 crashing into it.
The building adjacent and about 40 feet from WTC7 was also hit by falling beams and debris but didn’t fall. That building is a telephone switching station. It also faced the Twin Towers and was actually CLOSER to them then WTC7. Today, after renovation, the central office still stands and is the world headquarters of the Verizon corporation. The brand new WTC7 building is complete and stands right next it. Larry Silverstein did not own or lease the Verizon building. But he did lease WTC7 as well as the whole WTC site. His lease began six weeks before 9/11. Six weeks is enough time to wireLESS a building with REMOTE charges. WTC7 could have been the master control center. How could it have been left standing with all the evidence inside? Who could even suggest Larry Silverstein (a Jew and a Zionist) to be a suspect without being called an anti-Semite and anti-American? No one could have questioned 9/11 because they would have been branded unpatriotic. The emotional wounds were too deep.
Anyone who believes that the WTC1,2,7 buildings came down solely by fire and gravity have no understanding of physical reality. Forget about conspiracy for a moment, the Physics which are IMMUTABLE (do you understand what immutable means?) infallibly show that the official version of the towers coming down is FALSE.
You can’t believe because you don’t have the courage to believe what is TRUE. You want security in your beliefs like religious people want security in believing in a projected father called God.
Wow… it doesn’t matter how many times every conspiracy claim is debunked, no matter how many experts will say that they are wrong…
… there are still idiots that bring out the same old arguments (puffs of dust, falling straight, etc etc).
Its the same with the ID/Creationism folks with their examples of irriducable complexity… and frankly they try harder – at least they adapt to counter evidence against them.
WTC conspiracists are just sad, really, really, sad. All it says is that you can’t do good research.
I can give you 1 reason for a modern building to colapse, with STEEL…
NONE of the metal was heat treated/tempered or CAST metel…
Upon heating then, they will warp at 1200 derees, with is as hot as your Bar-B-QUE…
SHOW me where these stanchons and supports were heat treated or cast metel, and I will show you where SOMEONE CUT CORNERS, and should be SUED…
“only someone lacking *any* common sense, or the most fundamental understanding of physics, interprets the jets of smoke as other than *air and smoke being forced out of the building under the pressure of a few thousand tons of material compressing that air in a fraction of a second*”
Well I’m more interested in just how a few thousand tons of material compressed in just a fraction of a second to be honest. Watch this lecture: http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html
Oh and that photo, are you blind, that is a VERY neat pile of debris… The buildings around it still stand, with only exterior damage.
“Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here’s American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!”
“Wow… it doesn’t matter how many times every conspiracy claim is debunked, no matter how many experts will say that they are wrong…”
You’re so right, maybe we should all just what Britney Spears does…
“Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.”
Wake up.
Well, I found an interesting site that explains controlled demolition. I wanted to find a picture of what it looks like once all the explosives are in place. Check out the picture halfway down the page that shows all the support columns wrapped in black plastic. This is what the explosive charges might have looked like.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/building-implosion2.htm
I have also seen a demolition where they built wooden crates, as big as refrigerators, around pre-weakened support columns. These crates are then packed with explosives to form a ring around the column so that the explosive force will focus at the center, thus vaporizing the column.
Towards the bottom of the page is an animated picture that shows the concrete in a column being vaporized, leaving just the unsupported rebar (reinforcing [steel] bar).
As for wireless demolition, the detonator cord is not like a regular wire. A demolition crew might be able to use wireless transmitters but the denonator cord is still required. And they would be foolish to use wireless anyways since any stray radio signal has the potential to set it off. This would be a very remote chance but still far to risky. The explosives could possibly be set off by a random cell phone or wireless two way radio.
Building demolition takes weeks and weeks to set up. It could not have happened without someone noticing. Period. End of argument.
That’s an interesting point Mark T but if you take into account the fact there where apparently several ‘security’ drills at all 3 sites over the two to three weeks preceding the incident, and with these sites being practically empty at night (offices) this gives ample time to put a wired system in place. As for the visual aspect of the explosive charges, cutting charges need not be highly visible they are in fact quite discrete requiring only ‘gaffer’ tape to put in place. Perhaps thermite was packed around the core in the elevator shafts, aircon ducts, etc. It’s not impossible to imagine, certainly not as impossible as airplanes and the heat from burning office furniture (the jet fuel burnt off max within 20 mins, with most being blasted away from the building on impact) causing all three buildings to ‘implode’ in such a way. Paul, you are not a resonable person to have a discussion with, you obviously have not either read the paper nor watched the video which thouroughly address all your points in 31 better than I can. There is nothing, I repeat nothing wrong with asking questions and seeking answers especially over such controversial issues, Dvorak is totally right to raise such an issue and I commend his bravery in doing so. Those with power aren’t angels, they are sometimes prepared to sacrifice innocent lives to get what they want. Google Operation Northwoods to see the mentaility of those with power.