Mr & Mrs Rice share an intimate moment
Two days ago, we asked what you thought about Hillary running for prez in ’08. Now it’s the Republicans turn.
If Condi Rice changes her mind and decides to run, would you vote for her? Or is she too tainted by the actions of her current boss such as the contacts with Abramoff that Bush said he never had, the staggering spending spree the Republicans in Congress can’t bring themselves to support anymore, the reductions in freedoms enacted, and so on. Oh, yeah. And the war she supports but few others in the country support anymore.
If not her, who would you rather have run?
Rice still says no to boosters of ’08 run for president
Despite Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s continued and firm denials of interest in seeking the presidency in 2008, many Republicans view her as a dream candidate and hope she changes her mind.
Rice was the top choice for the party’s presidential nomination in a poll taken at the California Republican Convention in San Jose last month, and she has consistently landed at or near the top of national and state polls about the 2008 GOP race. A group trying to draft Rice for the White House travels to major Republican events, touting her presidential timber while hawking campaign buttons and bumper stickers that they’re having trouble keeping in stock.
Hell NO!
What has she done in the last 6 years (at both jobs) that makes her deserve the presidency? Pretty much nothing. I’m sure she’s a smart person, but really, what could she campaign on? How we’ve handled the axis of evil? Our great relationship with other countries (remember the coalition of the willing?)
Would love to see Colin Powel run. There is some taint from his involvement in the leadup to the Iraq war, but at least he denounced it when he found out the truth. And, I believe, based upon the “Powel Doctrine”, that if he were running things we wouldn’t be in the bad situation in Iraq as we are now.
Just my 2c.
Not in this Life time!
I don’t care for Hilary but I would vote for her long before I would vote for Rice.
Four words: Jeb Bush in 2008. And ‘scuse my political incorrectness, but the US simply isn’t ready for a black woman president. That said, history shows that the most likely candidate for a first woman head-of-state is a conservative, not a liberal. Witness Margaret Thatcher or Angela Merkel.
Lou – when did Powell renounce what he did or denounce the war? AFAIK, he has taken up the Administration’s talking points about how it is now all about democracy, etc, etc. Some of his former aides are less compliant, however, and there is some question about whether they are speaking for him.
He is still too good a soldier to publically rip into the CINC. Once Dubya is out of office, we may see something else.
And on Condi – she is known to be socially liberal, so she may have to do the same flip-flop that Reagan and Bush 1 did on abortion. Even so, that may not satisfy the religious right.
Yeah, how about Colin? I’m not even a Repub, but I’d vote for him. You’re right, Lou, he is a little tainted by his association with Bush and Bush’s Bullshit War (BBW), but he’s pretty much gotten beyond that.
His willingness to resign, rather than continue working for a charlatan and a liar (which is saying something, given the ethics of most politicians) speaks volumes about his character.
Condi may be smart, but she’s not smart enough not to be a spokesmodel for Bush’s continuing deception and moral turpitude.
>>And ’scuse my political incorrectness, but the US simply isn’t
>>ready for a black woman president.
Sure America is. The redneck nitwits who still think Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and had WMDs (who make up much of Dumbya’s core constituency) are most definitely not, though.
Perhaps with Bush’s approval rating free-falling towards single digits, that core constituency will become irrelevant as a voting force.
That would be a proud day for America, indeed.
The Iraq war is a GOOD thing that should have happened a long time ago. Powell’s only taint is that he tried to slow it down. He might still be a good president though.
I don’t know that Condi is the best candidate but I would vote for her over ANY candidate the Dems could put up. Her being socially liberal is a plus for me. I’m not sure she would be up to dropping a nuke if necessary though.
I would vote for Anna-Nicole Smith before I voted for Hillarius. That has to say something considering that Anna-Nicole is so stupid it’s hard to fathom how even her autonomic nervous system continues to function. Actually, I would vote for a cheese sandwich or a puddle of brown liquid before voting for Hillarius.
John McCain John McCain John McCain ,vote early vote often and vote in every district
Powell’s current thoughts on his role in the Iraq debacle:
“In September 2005, Powell was asked about the speech during an interview with Barbara Walters and responded that it was a “blot” on his record. He went on to say, “it will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It’s painful now.”
No on Condi. Bright woman, but too much baggage.
John McCain seems a viable moderate choice!
Why is she in government at all? She oversaw the worst security failure since Pear Harbor (911) and the worst intelligence failure (Iraq WMDs) since… well… probably ever.
>>The Iraq war is a GOOD thing that should have happened a long time ago.
So, YOU’RE the last guy who still believes that. I was wondering who it was. 😉
The Democrats better hope that Condi does not run and they should *really* hope she doesn’t run against Hillary. Almost assuredly, a substantial portion of the Black vote would go to Condi. If you took even half of the Black vote in the last election and gave it to the Republicans, they win in a landslide before the CA polls close. In addition, the Democrats would have a tough time being caustic towards Condi without looking racist. Because of the PC nature the liberals have drilled into to everyone, the press would have a hard time characterizing her without looking racist (as was evidenced in an incident a couple of years ago). As if all that is not enough, it would clearly eliminate the Democrat as the primary party for Black Americans. Condi running on the Republican ticket would be a four alarm disaster for the Democrats. IMO, the Democrats *only* hope at winning in 2008 is for the Republicans put up a schlep.
Four words: Jeb Bush in 2008.
Two words: Terry Schiavo
Crap, I guess I’ve to run for president.
Hell no! I’m votin’ fur Alf Landon!
Condi? Hell No! I’d vote for Elmo before pretty much anyone in the current administration. Im a conservative, but Im not quite sure what party these jokers are from…….
I would vote for Condi!! She rules my heart!! My wife knows this, and has given me permission to have her baby if I ever get the opportunity.
Dr. Rice, please run away with me!
If Condi was president and another 9/11 happened she would most likely be off shopping (On the public dime), as evidenced by where she was when Katrina was destroying New Orleans.
I think it is time for Steve Jobs to rescue the US (Then he will out source all government jobs to India, just like he is doing to his support staff at Apple).
Corporate America will do great numbers until they realize there is no one left in the US and Canada that can afford any of there products. Then the short sighted leaders will bail out with there golden parachutes.
IMO, the Democrats *only* hope at winning in 2008 is for the Republicans put up a schlep.
Didn’t help ’em in 2000 and 2004, why should it help ’em in 2008.? 🙂
Four words: Jeb Bush in 2008. And ’scuse my political incorrectness, but the US simply isn’t ready for a black woman president. [snip]
Comment by Greg — 3/10/2006 @ 7:08 am
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I think it’s time I switched to a more specific user name… 🙂
Greg V. aka Greg from here and anywhere I defended climate change science and bashed liberal caricatures (however futile it may be.)
Thomas: As I said in the Hillary thread, unless she really runs as a moderate (to the point where she may not win the primary) don’t count on that happening. It really doesn’t give black people much credit. People have been saying Republicans are making inroads with black people for a long time and it has never happened. Any meager gains Bush may have made, if he made any at all, have been wiped out and then some by Katrina. I don’t care whether that’s fair or not, I’m saying that’s the reality. He’s ridiculously unpopular with them right now, and Condi is nothing if not closely tied with Bush. Although Katrina may have been the tipping point, it’s not like they were in love with him before.
Are they supposed to vote for her just because she’s black? Clarence Thomas isn’t exactly a black hero. Alberto Gonzales isn’t exactly a hispanic hero. These people have to actually have good positions or else they’ll still vote Democratic. Put it this way: if John Edwards won the primary instead of Kerry, would half the people in the south who voted for Bush vote for him instead, just because he’s a southerner?
The problem with Rice is that she is a weak candidate. The Abramoff scandal actually will hurt Hillary much more because she received money through Abramoff associaties. Rice will be brought down by the actions of the administration and the fact that she is not a conservative. The conservatives inside the party are the ones that put Republican candidates over the top not the much media covered “Religious Right” and these conservatives are feed up with Bush and other big government Republicans. This group will also drag down McCain in the primaries and make it much more difficult for him to gain the nomination.
Ms. Rice has only lied when her purposely misleading statements were not sufficient to serve the purposes of, not the U S A and it’s constitution, but the political party to which she is loyal.
She is, therefore, eminently qualified to lead what has now become the most corrupt, amoral nation in recorded history
into even more barbaric acts of violence and terrorism as the words are defined.
Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo
Greg V.
It will not be possible for Hillary to run as a moderate. He track record as a liberal is far too long. Kerry tried to pass himself off as a moderate and look what it got him. In addition, why is that even necessary? If her liberal viewpoints are valid, she should be able to run on that platform instead of masquerading as a moderate.
I disagree with the assessment of Katrina. Regardless of ill-placed blame towards Bush, when the first Black candidate in US history runs for President that person will take a significant portion of the Black vote just because of its precedent setting nature. Had Bush taken even 25% of Kerry’s black vote in the past election, he would have won in a landslide.
I’m not suggesting people should vote for her just because she’s black (they shouldn’t). I’m saying people will vote for her just because she’s black just because it’s precedent setting.
Regarding Edwards, it is likely that he would have taken more of the red states than Kerry. Whether that is because Kerry is from Massachusettes or Edwards is from the South is hard to say. It is not an accident that three of the last four Democratic Presidents (Clinton, Carter, Johnson) have been from the South.
No for Rice. The only Republican that I feel I know enough about to be comfortable voting for is McCain.
DITTO HELL No! Neither one of them!
I would vote for my cleaning lady over them!
Amazingly enough they both surpased the peter principal.
loose canon Howard Dean has dibs for the position
My vote is for George Pataki!
Condi for Prez???
Ya, right !!!
McCain??? don’t bet on it.
Jeb ???
No way.
Frist ???
He is the “Party’s” chosen man. Look for Guilianni for V-P.
Only McCain, who the “Party” doesn’t like could beat Clinton and even that ain’t a sure thing.