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Bush wants to allow “good-hearted people who are coming here to do jobs that Americans won’t do” to immigrate across our borders at the same time the White House announced there was slower job growth than was expected
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cannot believe
you americans are so lucky to have such an eloquent president
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I have supported the concept of a guest worker visa for DECADES but why am I not happy that Bush is proposing it?
MARK MY WORDS: this will be gift to big business, not working people.
Good-hearted people may indeed want to come here to work for slave wages, but good-hearted people wouldn’t want to work people for slave wages. To say that this policy is built on compassion, as the President does, is hilarious. It is built on greed, pure and simple. We want to keep Mexicans illegal enough not to have to be responsible for them, but just legal enough to be able to take advantage of them. What a country.
What’s next? Finding people who would be willing to come here and work for a bowl of rice?
They need a whole bunch of people to move into this country to pay for the old people’s social security. If we don’t sucker people to move into this country to foot the tax bill, the ponzi scheme will collapse.
Grab yer ankles, America. You know, we’re only doing this for your own good. Besides, you know you want it.
I voted for Bush twice, but his immigration policy is crap.
And the Congress should be ashamed of that Intelligence Bill they passed that had all the teeth taken out of it.
On the other hand, the second you say “secure our borders,” the left wing goes nuts crying racism. So it’s not something Bush can win with either way. He should, therefore, stick with his base on this one.
Living in a state where our Democrat governor prates a line almost identical to the Republikan crap, most folks would welcome a few opportunities to vote on referendums like Arizona’s Prop 200.
I live in a community just about average in ethnic makeup for our state [about half-Hispanic, half-Anglo], statistical incomes norm for workingclass and middle income folks. The only folks who support “special” status for illegal immigrants — aside from those folks who are religious about their liberalism and don’t differentiate between legal and illegal — are those profiting from the undocumentados: contractors and businesses who have driven wages down, slumlords, the drug dealers who now have a endless supply of mules.
I guess that’s who the Democrats and Republikans rely on for a significant portion of their funding.
It is liberal nonsense to say that promoting such a measure is “a gift [only] to big business, not working people.” What about the Mexicans getting a better paying job and conditions than they would at home? I suppose they do not count as “working people.” Furthermore, what defines “slave wages.”? If the wage and working conditions are better than those that the person could experience elsewhere, then it is mutually beneficial.
That said, I disagree with Bush’s immigration policy because it skirts the core issue: we are doing an extremely poor job of keeping those out that shouldn’t be allowed in the country. This policy will simply make it easier for more to slip by. I think that the President may genuinely believe that this policy is based on compassion and the reality that millions of Mexicans cross the border, dangerously, to work in the US anyway. The problem is that his policy does not fix the real problem.
Maybe more Americans would work crappy jobs if they paid more. Construction laboring jobs could pay $15 to $20 an hour if the market weren’t flooded with hispanics.
I keep picking up the same mixed messages from the conservatives. It goes like this. I supported or voted for President Bush, but I don’t support the need to continue with the Iraq war, his position on immigration, Rumsfeld or any number of issues. The Democrats are now in see told you so mode, so they’ll just hold lots of press briefings and work the talk show circuit. The Mexicans and others who come to the USA work really hard. So does my washing machine.
What about the Mexicans getting a better paying job and conditions than they would at home? I suppose they do not count as “working people.”
They are working people, they are just not working Americans.
It’s bad enough if only the workers come here. But when they start bringing their families here – (and who can blame them for wanting to have better conditions for their families?) – that I have a problem with the “illegal” immigrants. If they are using our support services – without them or their employers contributing to the maintenance of those services – then that increases the burden on those of us who are supporting those services.
If the wage and working conditions are better than those that the person could experience elsewhere, then it is mutually beneficial.
To the employers and the illegals – but not to most Americans. If the money these workers made stayed in the US, then I would agree with you. But, I see too many places which advertise services for sending money South of our border.
That money being lost to our American economy, along with the support services being used by illegal’s families, are my complaints against the current “system”.
I disagree with Bush’s immigration policy because it skirts the core issue: we are doing an extremely poor job of keeping those out that shouldn’t be allowed in the country.
On this we agree. The difficult part is always: who decides “those that shouldn’t be allowed into the country”? 🙂
Whatever happened to the argument that if we paid better for the jobs the illegal aliens are doing, we’d be paying three times as much for our fruit?
Now, it has to be turned into the evil of big business? Liberals are so cliche.
Whatever happened to the argument that if we paid better for the jobs the illegal aliens are doing, we’d be paying three times as much for our fruit?
And with the recent jump in tomato prices (for reasons other than labor costs) getting media and consumer attention, you would think someone would be using that as an example of what prices could be, across the board, if we weren’t paying “slave” wages to farm workers.
Conservatives claim they aren’t just a party for the rich but represent everybody.
But if you mention worker exploitation, this same people call you a liberal!
Are you conservatives for the workers or not?
I’ve long been asking for a guest-worker visa system, but not if it is just a way of legalizing worker exploitation.
It’s fine with me if you call this “liberal”. (But then, don’t also charge me with “playing class warfare”.)
I”m for millionare rights. I’m also for immigrant rights. So who REALLY represents all the people? Maybe it really is the liberals.
Alan
Hmmm..I guess it IS late..gotta get me some soma..
I just noted the date this article was published (Dec. 21) and realised I need to play the lottery..LOL !! G’nite