Vista users encountering problems when they upgrade to Service Pack 1 can breathe easier: the company is giving away free support for those installing the service pack.
The transition to the service pack has not been problem-free for many users, some of whom have seen their computers fall into endless reboot cycles and struggled with broken applications after installing the upgrade.
Normally, only Windows Vista users who bought the retail product would be eligible for free support but, for SP1 installation, even users with an original-equipment-manufacturer copy of Vista on their computer can get Microsoft’s help, according to the official Vista blog.
Microsoft can afford it.
Oh but your particular laptop is a piece of shit.
“J”, Macro 32 was an assembler and compiler on the VAX/VMS system. Sorry if you missed that one. You seem to have missed quite a bit over the years.
I’m glad you had an “important dad”, and can afford $20,000 desktop computers. Most people didn’t, and most people can’t.
They buy laptops (and occasionally desktops) at Best Buy, Wal*Mart, Circuit City, and online.
And for Micro$oft to pawn off an operating system that requires a $20,000 laptop to run properly (not to say that Vista would even run properly there) is nothing short of criminal.
And you claim to “have a degree”??? HAW HAW HAW! Nobody as ignorant as you could have made it throught a Community College Computers 101 course. HAW HAW HAW!!
>>Oh but your particular latop is a piece of shit.
It’s the only computer I have that will actually run Vista.
Sorry if my Daddie didn’t buy me a $20,000 desktop, but that’s life. I know people who have put it on desktops (even ones you would think are “decent”), and took it off as fast as they could reformat the hard drive.
In any case, Vista is shit. Total, incontestable dog shit.
Big mistake for Micro$oft, and it may well take them down. Unless Windoze 7 is pretty damned good.
““J”, Macro 32 was an assembler and compiler on the VAX/VMS system. Sorry if you missed that one. ”
I didn’t miss anything. what you said was
“I was programming in asssembler on VAX Macro32 before you ever learned to wipe your ass.”
That reads as someone that isn’t aware that VAX Macro32 is an assembler implementation. You don’t program on it you program WITH IT or IN IT. The VAX/VMS system is what you program ON.
Perhaps just a mis-speak by you.
“I’m glad you had an “important dad”
I am too
, and can afford $20,000 desktop computers. ”
He could but he doesn’t.
Who the hell is talking about a $20,000 machine? Not me $3000 should do just fine. That would get you an Intel QX6700 quad core with 8 Gigs of Corsair Dominator of Ram an EVGA 680i motherboard 2 WD Raptor X Raid 0 for Boot and an EVGA 8800 GTX 768 and a Thermaltake Case and 850W power supply
Considering what that worthless piece of shit you have cost. LOL You got robbed!!!
“They buy laptops (and occasionally desktops) at Best Buy, Wal*Mart, Circuit City, and online. ”
Then they should have got a better education. You get what you pay for!!!
“And for Micro$oft to pawn off an operating system that requires a $20,000 laptop to run properly ”
See you cant win without exaggerating your case.
“And you claim to “have a degree”
No. Degrees. plural
??? HAW HAW HAW! Nobody as ignorant as you could have made it throught a Community College Computers 101 course. HAW HAW HAW!!”
I will ignore your pointless attempt to attack my education because I know it exceeds yours but Wow! You are the one that doesn’t get out much. Most of the kids getting out of college can’t find Iraq on a map and can’t name more than 3 founding fathers.
# 33 Mister Mustard
“It’s the only computer I have that will actually run Vista.”
I am sorry to hear that. Then run XP. Wow for some one as educated as you in CS to be that poor is really hard to swallow. I made a killing in the 90’s didn’t you?
“Sorry if my Daddie didn’t buy me a $20,000 desktop”
Ok enough. I come from wealth but I have earned most of what I have on my own. My dad didn’t give us crap! He said he worked hard and so should we.
“I know people who have put it on desktops (even ones you would think are “decent”), and took it off as fast as they could reformat the hard drive.”
Yeah and I know people that did the same with XP and OSX leapord.. SO WHAT? Just because you know siome people that either don’t want to take the time or can’t make it work doesn’t mean that it is the OSs fault.
“In any case, Vista is shit. Total, incontestable dog shit.”
I can see you are very objective with admittedly little experience with the OS. And who the hell buys a $3000 laptop cries poor and then leaves Vista on it so as to make the machine useless to them. Your story is starting to sound fishy!
“Big mistake for Micro$oft, and it may well take them down. ”
Yeah because you know more about computers and the computer business better than people who have earned Billions creating the software you and a majority of the world use.
Hot dang, Mr. Mustard is back. Some of his statements I agree with, ie., I don’t need an overblown pretty OS to run a quad core for stacking astrophotos — I want the doggone OS to get out of the friggin’ way, quit phoning home, sucking resources, task swapping in the crapware that seems to be Vista born, etc. I don’t care what kind of “education” you have, J, but if you want 20% of your PC sucked up by a bloated OS, just keep running Vista.
I, too, would run Unix if it didn’t take 10 minutes to create a stupid batch file to do what I want, instead of a few mouse clicks (and XP does ’em just fine.)
I’m sure I’ll have to spend the big bucks on some new systems soon, just so I can run “Vespa” and it’s pretty
crapware“features.”This should all be a “no brainer.”
>>I made a killing in the 90’s didn’t you?
Oh snore, Warren Buffett, oh snore.
Sure I made money in the 90’s. I don’t mind paying $40,000 for a car, but not for a computer I’m going to use for word processing, graphics, and business applications.
And if you know people who are willing to pay that, you’re even dumber than you sound.
Bottom line: In spite of all your hot air protestations to the contrary, Vista is a piece of shit. Worthless.
And if it weren’t for the OEM market, the 350 copies of Vista that went to marks like you would be the ONLY ones that M$FT sold. And other than the OEM market, that’s where the only 350 sold copies went.
Enjoy your toy. And that your lucky stars for Daddie.
Hey! Mister Ray! Always a pleasure to read your comments. They’re often the only bastion of rationality in a sea of madness. (Yeah yeah, there are a few others..) Not sure how long I’ll be here, but I will try to participate productively during my tenure.
#30 – Thanks. I get the 64 bit part. My mistake, I thought you were talking Vista in general.
#38 – the only bastion of rationality in a sea of madness
You are thinking of me…
Now quit your bitching… all of you.
#29 – “PDP-11 paper tapes, then MVS and VM…”
PDP-11 RSX O/S was the 1st platform I programmed on. Interesting times…
Can anyone beat 1401 autocoder?
OFTLO, always a pleasure to see you again.
>>You are thinking of me…
Everyone’s thinking of you, OFTLO. Always!
Pat: RSX came out in the late 70’s. I was upgrading to IBM/370 and Z-80 assembler by then!
>>Can anyone beat 1401 autocoder?
Whoa! Mr. Ray! I can’t beat that. I didn’t come into the picture until they developed FORTRAN for the 1401. Those autocoder mnemonics were too much for my impressionable young brain back then.
I guess your daddy didn’t buy you an ENIAC, as J’s daddy would have done. Obscene wealth has its privileges!
Mr. Mustard,
ENIAC? I’d love to see it. Nay, I had to throw newspapers to pay for my PDP-10 habit with a genuine teletype terminal.
Ran an insurance co. on a 1401 before I got my first S/360-30 at EDS.
But I’ll bet $5 Eideard has me beat.
# 36 BubbaRay
There are limits to every other operating system that prevent it from being a contender in my view. Linux? I use it and have 2 proprietary systems that need to run on it. but other than that there just isn’t enough software to run. Sure there are SOME apps that attempt to duplicate their Windows brethren but all in all they don’t match up. I could list 50 apps that are not available on Linux. OSX? Well how is that any different than Vista other than again there are apps that aren’t available for it. Irix? well that at one time was all I needed but that utopia left at the end of the 90’s. XP? Great I used it since SP1 Has way to many limitations 64 bit and memory management being the biggest. When you move around and edit 4k images at 24 fps XP can’t keep up with only 2 GB for an App.
“J, but if you want 20% of your PC sucked up by a bloated OS, just keep running Vista.”
I don’t know what the hell you people are doing. The Vista 64 machine I am at right now is using 1% of my Quad core and 9% of my 8 Gigs of memory.
“I, too, would run Unix if it didn’t take 10 minutes to create a stupid batch file to do what I want, instead of a few mouse clicks (and XP does ‘em just fine.)”
I haven’t run Unix in years except OSX but there are plenty of X11 apps that can handle most common system functions. Yeah like I said Xp is great but it has limits and sooner or later people need to break those limits. That is what Vista should be for. Like I said I think Vista should have been like NT. Not for the general public.
What is pissing me off is all these people most of which have never run it or have limited experience with it saying that it sucks or it is a failure or what ever. They are talking out their ass because if you run XP vs Vista on this machine I am running Vista is a vast improvement in performance.
# 37 Mister Mustard
“Sure I made money in the 90’s. I don’t mind paying $40,000 for a car, but not for a computer I’m going to use for word processing, graphics, and business applications.”
There you go again pulling these $20,000 and $40,000 numbers out of your ass. This isn’t 1986 or 1976 or 1966 or 1956. This is 2008 a good machine that runs Vista 64 very well cost no more than $3000 about the same that you paid for that POS laptop.
Nobody I know has paid that much for a desktop system since 1997. Again you are pulling these numbers out of your ass.
“Bottom line: In spite of all your hot air protestations to the contrary, Vista is a piece of shit. Worthless.”
Back it up with something more than an opinion or rumor and compare it to Linux OSX and XP and see where your argument stands turd.
“And if it weren’t for the OEM market, the 350 copies of Vista that went to marks like you would be the ONLY ones that M$FT sold. ”
Again you exaggerate because you have no case. Vista has sold more than 90 million + copies the last time I looked.
“Enjoy your toy. And that your lucky stars for Daddie.”
I don’t know if you have caught on yet asshat but I run a multimillion dollar post production business. If you have watched TV or seen a movie in the last 15 year bet is you have seen my or my artists work. I built it all on my own daddy didn’t give me shit. He didn’t even pay for college I earned scholarships to pay my way. So blow all that daddy shit out your ass because I have more money than my dad and have for 10 years now.\
# 47 bjer
First your list is not “software with known issues” it is a compatibility list it is not accurate at all. I see a bunch of apps in the Heavy Problems area that work just fine. If you notice many of those apps are old. Have you even looked at the list? Also, the list of working apps is 3/4 of the page.
# 42 BubbaRay
Can anyone beat 1401 autocoder?
LOL. I know where you can still see one of those and I think it still works at least it did back in 88.
#48, J the main reason I run XP is the specific apps that have yet to be ported to Vespa. I think that you will find Vespa doesn’t use graphics cards efficiently (yet), and when some “phone home” or “hello” app takes over, the CPU usage can approach 90%, even with dual core. Apple’s latest push to force Safari on everyone comes to mind. Once a day, I get the “Install Safari” popup and don’t know how to kill it. Jerks. (But iTunes is a different story.) Why this app stretches the CPU usage is a mystery.
For that reason alone (and bad graphics mgmt.), I’ll not upgrade to Vespa until I’m forced, kicking and screaming all the way. I just don’t want to buy new computers. I’ve got some rather powerful hardware. Not extreme, but not shabby, either. The new computer investment won’t drive me to the grocery store.