It reminds me of the movie “The Matrix” where you have a choice between the red pill and the blue pill. If you take the red pill you see reality as it really is. If you take the blue pill you remain in blissful ignorance.
The NSA is here to protect you. It’s a balance between liberty and safety. I want you to believe me what I tell you that we lie to you for your own protection. And even though I don’t know what is going on myself and I’m too stupid to understand it if I did I can assure you that there is congressional oversight. So take the blue pill and remain in blissful ignorance.
Thus say Nancy Pelosi – the Goddess of Blissful Ignorance.
Thats not what she said. She has said stuff like that on other issues, but not this issue.
In a vacuum, its hard to say the FISA court is giving any oversight when they have never refused a request…. or are they up to “one” so far?
Hey–stop lying, conflating, and being inaccurate. There is so much to dislike about Pelosi (conflict of interest with her Husband’s no bid contracts for instance) you don’t need to go shaving the truth.
The video the above still was taken from: ((notes below clip do not mention her ignorance or trust us attitude))
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-UCXCDwMByo
It’s amazing what the U.S. press and ARMY tries to hide.
“In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised – and it should be.”
This last part is not being reported/shown on in the U.S. media!
People should wonder why.
Not to argue that the msm is spreading misinformation, CNN did report the entire statement.
Red pill, Blue pill — take’m both and call it a trip.
Lordy. Will people please stop posting pictures of that withered wench with her GMO udders, without drawing in the derp-eyes?? It’s demeaning of her.
The NSA is there to protect the NSA, not you, not me, not the 99%ers, not even the 1%ers, not even the oligarchs.
We have created an engine of surveilance that can not be stopped, only starved for cash and resources … eventually.
“If ignorance is bliss, I know too much.” – Likes2LOL 😉
Ignorance is Strength
“We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”
“We know it’s a spy center. But who are they spying on?” said Connie Robbins, an upholstery shop owner who lives in Bluffdale, a community of 8,000 some 25 miles south of Salt Lake City that is known for its rodeo and annual Old West Days.
What we know about the NSA’s secret data data warehouse in Utah
Taxpayers pay $40 million per month for the power bill.
Inside the NSA’s secret Utah data center
In April, Vanee Vines, a public information officer for the NSA, told Fox News that the Utah Data Center will be “a state-of-the-art facility designed to support the Intelligence Community’s efforts to further strengthen and protect the nation.”
Recent images released by the Associated Press show the facility is almost complete. There’s an entrance, concrete-walled buildings, and massive power generators.
Is the NSA planning to use the Utah facility for spying? Experts say no.
“The National Security Agency is not spying on our U.S. citizens — and the thought is not only illegal, it’s ludicrous,” said James C. Foster, CEO and Founder of Riskive.
Ha, lies lies atop of more lies.
Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (adminstrators) too plainly proves a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
— Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their Constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it.
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.
Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object.
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
— Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.
Great words, although I doubt his sincerity at the time, given his penchant for suppressing the revolutionary rights he spoke of.
I should point out that it’s never been necessary to fool all of the people all of the time, it’s sufficient merely to fool enough of the people enough of the time. Say, 51% of the people about 51% of the time.
Actually it’s easier than that, since by “people” we actually mean “people who are paying attention to what’s going on”, which is probably really only about a third of the population. (Being generous with that.)
A third of the population is an extremely generous assessment.
I doubt that one in ten “people on the street” could quote any portion of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
As anyone can see, there is no language in the 4th Amendment that suggests or infers that privacy should be balanced against security.
Larry Klayman’s wiretapping lawsuit: Verizon, NSA, Obama, Holder
The suit, Klayman, et al. v. Barrack Hussein Obama II, et al., Case No. 13-cv-00851, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was filed last Friday and became a class action suit on Monday. It seeks to represent a class of American citizens in the United States and overseas who are either current or previous Verizon customers, including, but not limited to customers between April 25, 2013 and July 19, 2013. The suit believes there are more than 100 million people in the class.
According to the suit, the actions by the NSA, under the watch of the Obama administration, constituted an “outrageous breach of privacy,” and challenges the legality of the NSA program.
The named defendants in the lawsuit are President Obama, US Attorney General Eric Holder, the director of the NSA, the NSA, the CEO of Verizon, the US Department of Justice, and Judge Roger Vinson of the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
The suit includes Judge Vinson because he signed the order by the government which directed Verizon to turn over all phone records “on an ongoing daily basis.”
The class is seeking a cease-and-desist order to stop the surveillance, expungement of all phone records already collected, and more disclosure about the secret surveillance programs. It also wants authorities to investigate Judge Vinson for misconduct.
The suit is also seeking more than $3 billion in damages and attorney fees. Plaintiffs are represented by Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch Inc.
The ACLU and Yale Law School’s Media Freedom and Information Access Clinic have also recently filed a motion with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) which seeks the “release of secret court opinions that permit the government to acquire Americans’ phone records en masse.”
The ACLU points out that the public has a right to know the supposed legal justification by which the phone records of millions of people are being spied upon, regardless of whether they as suspected of any wrongdoing or not.
The fact that the ACLU lawsuit, and Klayman’s before it, have been filed is testament to the invaluable public service that Snowden has carried out by leaking the information about the surveillance programs.
It has sparked a national debate about the government’s practices and the legal challenges so far are hopefully just the beginning of effort to challenge the constitutionality of what the NSA is doing.
As Alex Abdo, a staff attorney for the ACLU’s National Security Project, argues, “the crux of the government’s justification for the program is the chilling logic that it can collect everyone’s data now and ask questions later.” However, he continues, “the Constitution does not permit the suspicionless surveillance of every person in the country.”
Although the government is already pushing back against claims that its surveillance practices are unconstitutional, at least now it is being forced to defend them amidst greater public and legal scrutiny.
Who’s Nancy Pelosi again and who cares?
Who’s Nancy Pelosy?
She’s a 1%er who thinks she’s immune to any snooping and is all too willing to sell sell you ass to anybody who’ll put up the funds to get re-elected.
She’s not (she doesn’t know what they’re using or why,) and she’s not getting enough for your info.
Regarding the U.S. Government’s position on Snowden:
The following quote from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome seems very appropriate:
“You think I don’t know the law? Wasn’t it me who wrote it? And I say that this man has broken the law. Right or wrong, we had a deal. And the law says: bust a deal and face the wheel! “
Obama’s new and soon to be dystopian America; “Right or wrong, we had a deal. And the law says: bust a deal and face the wheel!”
Is it time or appropriate to now fly the stars and stripes upside down? What backlashes can I expect for flying my 25′ pole with old glory upside down.
My neighbor did it after the last Prez election. Most people applauded, But then, they were all for Romney. So, there’s that.
It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.
But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”
— John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
It’s getting harder and harder to distinguish Dvorak Uncensored from Fox Nation.
We have clowns in Congress, clowns in the White House, clowns in the Supreme Court, clowns in the Mass Media, clowns in the NSA, and clowns on Wall Street.
I am ROTFLMAO.
Welcome to the circus.
Admission is free.
Be thankful you will die laughing.
OR our fellow Americans in California could pull their heads out of their asses before voting for a change.
NSA stands for Nancy Sees All.
I love her. She is funny, articulate, smart and connects with the people.
So does SIRI, you statist freak.
Dallas, you’re an IDIOT.