Dontcha just love Washington? The best part is the money is supposed to be for roads. Yeah, the hundreds of billions to needed to fix our crumbling infrastructure will be fixed by preventing a handful of people who owe back taxes from leaving the country for a vacation.
A bill authored by a Southland lawmaker that could potentially allow the federal government to prevent any Americans who owe back taxes from traveling outside the U.S. is one step closer to becoming law. Senate Bill 1813 was introduced back in November by Senator Barbara Boxer (D-Los Angeles) to “reauthorize Federal-aid highway and highway safety construction programs, and for other purposes”.
After clearing the Senate on a 74 – 22 vote on March 14, SB 1813 is now headed for a vote in the House of Representatives, where it’s expected to encounter stiffer opposition among the GOP majority.
Yeah Boxer! Way to go. Thank you Supreme Court 5-4 (we know who the 5 are) for the law police can strip search you for any offense, like for “J” walking.
We know the government is abusing our tax dollars, we should also know the Supreme court taking our rights and freedoms. And everyone is bitchin’ about the other party.
Nah… I’m bitching about any party.
They’re only there to provide a distraction from the <breal issue, which is getting these elitist 1%er fucks to stop taking turns at reaming our asses.
Repubes or Democraps, it doesn’t matter. The fact that there are repubes and/or democraps is just what is lubing up our butts.
This kind of government fascist control was implemented decades ago in the Netherlands.
It was about time that the US caught up with their legislation.
The US is a Fascist oligarchy.
That’s not necessarily a bad thing if we’re properly organized.
The problem is that the laisser-faire capitalists, the 12,400 really rich fucks and their 1%er tools, have been winning at the expense of the 99%ers, and they win at a disproportionally fast rate.
That’s why a woman has a better chance at coming out alive from giving birth in Cuba than in Washington DC.
The 1%ers and the really rich fucks don’t give a fuck. They never did. They never will.
They hire accountants to be their conscience, and we all know what good that is doing us. (Accountant would try to bargain the price down on the rope used to hang their own mothers and then themselves.)
That’s what wrong with this country.
I am wondering if deep body cavity probing searches is next on the supreme courts docket, for anyone suspected of a crime.
I take it you’ve never been to to jail…
The first thing you learn is to grab your ankles whenever the warden tells ya.
Deep body cavity searches may be how you get your rectal examinations for polyps and (pre-)cancerous growth in the future.
I don’t think I can afford much more of this “FREEDOM”.
You already can be denied for child support:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppi/family/family_863.html
“I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in” – Ron Paul
Ron Paul 2012!
“Owe Back Taxes? No Passport for You!”
What’s the problem? Who are we trying to protect?
Every time you hear the term “slippery slope” it makes you think of wintertime safety.
Doesn’t it? Doesn’t it? Doesn’t it? Doesn’t it?
First they came for criminals, and I didn’t care.
Then they came for women and minorities, and I didn’t care. (And you know they are. You don’t need tits or to be called a name ending in a vowel to figure that one out.)
Then they came out for anybody with a sequence of genes running ATTCGAAGGTC (good luck figuring out if you’ve got them without gene splicing equipment,) and I was quiet.
Then they came out for people who liked <insert name of writer/band/politician/movie star> and by that time it was too late.
They’re coming after you dick-head.
Paid Up Taxpayer has it right. Uncle Dave has it wrong. Why should tax cheats get any privilege of citizenship if they are actively subverting it?
Ex-Cons can’t vote. I see less justification for that than this issue.
I do assume once you are on a payment schedule, all rights are returned?
Ha, ha. Calling so many things FREEEEEEDOM to come under its warm embrace. You want freedom? Pay the price.
Wow bobbo I’m surprised at your pay the price for freedom. I didn’t think you were such a stickler for the US tax system and that tax and freedom are connected.
I spoke without thinking, you were being sarcastic. Silly hooman.
And the illegals steal our taxes and get a free in and out of the country.
LOL Dave, the illegals pay into our Social Security system with their fake SS numbers with absolutely no hope of ever collecting. They’re subsidizing us in this case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Undocumented_Workers_Subsidize_Social_Security
Illegals will get out but they won’t be getting back in, unless they’re broke-ass Mexicans paying for mules to ferry them across the rio grande…
Even at that, the surveillance blimps that the TSA is buying (with IR equipment which would show a bunch of sweaty tunnel diggers,) it’ll be a whole lot harder to sneak across the border.
Get your priorities straight. Reported this morning, the new aircraft carrier we’ve all been waiting for – you know how seriously we need that – has cost overruns totaling $884 million.
Buckle down and work for your country’s defense.
I wonder what the “other purposes” are?
Barbara Boxer is usually on the right side of the issues so it’s probably worth giving this story a little more research than you get from a blog which loves to sensationalize stories.
huh?
Check her wiki page. I does appear Boxer has some good sense. I am really not all that familiar with her but the scan I did on wiki makes her look like a genius compared to most of the dolts in office. PIPA and her anti-maryjane stances are her downfall.
Boxer is one of the good ones.
No lawmaker is right on everything.
But if she supports this, it’s worth a second look.
double huh? double huh?
What sloppy reporting. CBS should be ashamed. First off, Barbara Boxer is not a “Southland” lawmaker. She is from Northern California. Secondly, they list, after her name (D-Los Angeles). Since when are senators designated by city? I happen to live in Los Angeles, and I don’t want this train wreck of a senator associated with my hometown!
Next, just because they revoke or limit your passport doesn’t mean you are “prevented from traveling outside the United States.” Sure, it’s difficult to get back in and there are lots of places you can’t go, but lack of the passport does not prevent you going to Mexico or Canada. An “enhanced driver’s license” works for that.
Still, it’s an inappropriate thing to put in the bill. Any bill with such outlandish and unrelated provisions should be vetoed. Let the Congress come back with straight forward legislation.
Good catch.
She is a state-wide politician so, clearly, this is sloppy reporting, at best.
TSA got smacked down by a federal judge. They seized 35 thousand in cash for the crime of not declaring it. The passenger had asked their help in filling out the form, TSA asked how much money do you have, he said I don’t know, 20 thousand I guess. Then he told him to fill out 20 thousand, and then they went and searched him, found 35 thousand, and took it all.
What is a vacation?
It’s what happens when you lose your job.
You shouldn’t be going on vacation.
You might be going to work. I fully expect future generations to flee what they see as an oppressive police state that promises care from the cradle to the grave and does so at a very low level for the under people.
Yup. That’s what happened to me. Well it was going on sick leave, but you get the idea.
Hey this could actually work to ones favor!! Get drafted? Getting sent to some third world hell hole war? Wait, you own taxes. Can’t left the country. Have to serve your sentence, er, tour or service, in the USofA. Or do the US military service have some exemption to this law? That wouldn’t surprise me. And you can bet that anyone who’s rich enough, can leave the country via their private jet or ship, whenever they want to. They just can’t get past US Customs, and onto commercial transport. Trust me, there are lots of ways in and out of the country, the Feds don’t brag about, that a passport isn’t needed.
Your in the military and owe taxes. They’ll will give an Article 15 for owing taxes. If you don’t pay up they will kick you out. Besides, they will give ten bucks a month till you pay it off. I saw this happen to a person who owed some money. After paying off the money they kicked him out.
Also, your plan won’t work. People in the Military don’t fall under the Constitution of the United States and it’s laws. They fall under the UCMJ. And we don’t have the draft…
Bottom line… they will just kick you out.
You need to owe 50K plus to qualify for this without an agreed upon payment plan… so if you are in the military with 50k owed in taxes that would be interesting.
They’ll kick you out way before you get to $50,000.
Like I said these laws do not apply to people in the Military.
Is this a big enough issue to warrant a new federal law?
Nope…
Not even an amendment to a state or municipal statute.
Basically, if someone decides that they should look into you because they don’t like your hairy ass, you aren’t even leaving town, never mind needing a passport.
Who the fuck do you think is writing all of these fucking laws?
The very people you need protection from.
Closer and closer to serfdom everyday. I think I owe like 80 bucks I haven’t gotten around to paying yet. I guess I better hurry up and hand it over to my lord and master before booking that vacation in Tokyo.
And the loose tightens…
You need to owe 50,000 for 2012 and that plus cost of living afterwards to get put on the list… for the cost of being put on you have to remember that there is a fee for applying so the cost is built in. If you owe that much in taxes and you still apply good luck.
I meant inflation…
Try getting off the list once your on and paid up.
California right now is suffer from economic disaster, which it likes to put its self in, more often than not. But this time denial was too great and they ousted some years ago Governor Gray David and brought in a feel good actor as Governor to distract them from the inevitable reality and responsibility. Hence the nick name for the state, La La Land. When on the verge of collapse and old Arnold just shrugged and walk off stage. Then in desperate desire they revived though Voodoo the late Jerry Brown. So California has been “creative” to say it’s ass. If your really going after those who owe back taxes, screwing with they ability to get a passport say, people in upper tax brackets are a hell of allot more powerful then the government. She is playing politics, to keep undocumented worker in the state, stimulate state taxes, SS. etc. She doesn’t want to kill the golden calf. Weird as it sounds, I just remind myself it is….La La Land.
Well the world economy is fecked at the moment I suppose they have to do something!
Nothing new here. You owe child support arrears and they take your drivers license. Stupidest thing I ever heard of. We are most certainly headed for the creation of debtors prison (which is supposed to be unconstitutional). Anyway, you want to talk crap about California, go ahead. Helps keep your attention off the way your own state is screwing you. Good luck with that.
Your right… We are turning into a debtors prison country. You better make sure your library book fines are paid up.
let me see-Truckers, salesmen, oil workers, deliveries in general, trade agreement types, constructors, and general business functions, going in/out of Canada/Mexico might be negatively affected
Pay taxes or end up like Greece….