A Canadian study currently under peer review apparently suggests that individuals given seasonal flu shots are twice as likely to get swine flu.
The ‘perplexing’ study has thrown influenza health plans into disarray, with Quebec, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario and Nova Scotia all suspending seasonal flu shots for anyone under 65 years of age. The study appears to be confined to Canada; the US, Britain, and Australia have not reported the same problem, so some are suggesting that the research has ‘study bias.’ However, the research appears to be ‘solid’ according to Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba. ‘There are a large number of authors, all of them excellent and credible researchers. And the sample size is very large — 12 or 13 million people taken from the central reporting systems in three provinces.
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For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert.
Sounds more like a scare tactic to soften up the population with regular flu before the hamflu goes full throttle.
Question is, who wants to decimate the world’s population?
no surprise, some the vaccine inserts seem to indicate that the swine flu vaccine is *also* in the regular flu shots..
Irony?—-i guess this is why people have been seeing thousands of those plastic coffin liners/concrete coffins and the Indians (in canada? was it?) got a bunch of body bags delivered with their H1N1 kits.
I wonder what resources lie under their lands that would warrant their extermination…
Let the culling begin! [sic]
i’m gonna hazard a guess we may see the silver price jump 20fold…if the flu turns out to still be a regular single virus…silver colloid huffed via a sonic nebulizer will probably the only thing that will guarantee to nip it in the bud, so ta speak..
-s
Un.fucking.believable. Do any of these pricks know what the hell they are doing.
I think not.
Here in my hometown, I know of six kids who had the shot. Five have come down with Swine Flu, all with three days of getting the shot.
Anyone else here Google around and learn that (1) not only has this study not been published in any peer-review journals – where it could be evaluated by medical professionals and researchers; but, (2) it hasn’t been published ANYWHERE!
Strong accusation against WHO and the UN on H1N1 vaccine… http://www.theflucase.com/
Opinions?
#3 – Soundwash : look up argyria and then go huff some silver.
#7 – Keaneo: Well, it seems to have been published in the Globe and Mail. Didn’t even need Google to follow a link. It’s a new story about research in progress. I wouldn’t expect to see it in a peer reviewed journal. Yet. Betcha it will be in a few months. When it’s too late to raise the alarm.
I got my normal flu shoots a couple of weeks back. So far nothing.
Deowll?!?!?!?! So sorry. Been nice having you around.
R.I.P.
I don’t know if this article is believable or not. But the way I figure it. If everyone else runs to get there flu shot this year. And it actually works! The thing will be stopped cold, and never make it to me. So why should I get the damn shot? It’s not like voting for President, where “every vote counts”. Oh wait, those didn’t either. They should just give the shot to everyone planning on flying a plane across country or the world. And that will stop the bug from cross-infecting the nations. Isn’t in amazing how many people had to vacation in Mexico, just as the flu broke out there? And then traveled back to every place on the globe. Dose the doctor and nurses (some don’t what to, HA!) and everyone traveling on commercial airlines and trains. And that ought to do it.
How come the US military didn’t get anti-Swine flu dosed before the public? That’s what happened back in 1978. And after they ignored all the reactions the soldiers had, they tried it out on the public. Then killed the whole program after a few weeks of bad reactions. Put the anti-flu maker got its contract money from the gov., for all the personnel that were forced to get vaccinated. It really was a Court Martial offense, not to. They threatened me with that, when I resisted because of things I read about the hasty reproduction process, and it not necessarily being the real virus. That’s come up again, more recently. But we’re not hearing much about it now. As if to kill any doubts that the doses will actually prevent illness. If it fails, who will know it’s because the shots were made from the wrong strain? The gov. isn’t going to rat out its supplier.
Please….Grow up.
What are you, some shill for the FDA?
I’ve making and using CS since 2007.
No drug manufactured today can compare or beat its effectiveness.
-Especially at some $2.00/gal cost.
Since around the late the 1950’s, there are maybe 6 cases of argyria the public record. that are continually recycled.
Add anything to the water to speed up electrolysis with constant year long use and of course you risk getting argyria. (or use tap water consistently of distilled)
Made and used correctly, it’s a none-issue.
The smurfs making the “Oprah circuit” in recent years all added sea salt to the water. (which of course, they edited out)
Compare turning blue-grey to the “side effect” of DEATH you can hear on any day of week with meds advertised on TV. -or the long list of side effects inclusive of any antibiotic, -of which also can be death.
-or the list for both flu vaccines.
perhaps you should lay of the glue?
-s
Give me a break… it’s probably just a statistical fluke on one study. I don’t believe this result, at all.
While it is always dangerous to second guess people smarter than I, I really do wonder about this.
There is only one method to determine if one has the H1N1 influenza. That is with a laboratory test Not only is it relatively expensive, it is also not needed. When someone gets the flu. doctors don’t care what kind it is, all they care about is treating the symptoms. The H1N1 symptoms are exactly the same as other flus.
Suggesting the study tested 13 million people stretches credibility.
The normal virus vaccination has been available for only a couple of weeks. I have heard several people complain that they reacted to this vaccine. This is normal and generally very mild. Could it be confusion between a normal vaccination reaction and an H1N1 infection?
These statics typically only tell some of the truth. Since the Doctor does not speculate as to why this is the case, is it because people receiving the flu shot, are more susceptable to getting the flu? It is simular to the statics that would say, people visiting the doctor’s office, have resulted in higher death rates then those that do not.
For a contrary argument, see:
“No link between regular flu shot and severe H1N1
http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/Home/ContentPosting?newsitemid=CTVNews/20090930/h1n1_vaccine&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True
Whoops, I gave bad link in previous post. Try this instead:
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090930/h1n1_vaccine/20091001/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
I don’t trust the swine flu shot no matter what anyone says. People in my hometown have gotten a much severe case of the swine flu. Some even developed autism and one girl in crystallizing from the inside out(this might seen unbelievable and crazy but it’s absolutely true).